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Wintermute_1 #1 Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:35 AM

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I'm assuming this Eight Nation event will be; pick a European nation as a team to play on, play the tanks of that nation in some points acquiring competition against the totals acquired by tanks of other nations. 

 

If the above is the case can we assume everyone picks Russia, Russia wins by a landslide and just skip the whole thing?



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Russia is not european. It's not asian either. It's Russia. It should be in it's own event.

 

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View PostWintermute_1, on 01 October 2019 - 10:35 AM, said:

I'm assuming this Eight Nation event will be; pick a European nation as a team to play on, play the tanks of that nation in some points acquiring competition against the totals acquired by tanks of other nations. 

 

If the above is the case can we assume everyone picks Russia, Russia wins by a landslide and just skip the whole thing?

 

Did you also assume the red team would be first in the Great Race event? How did that go?



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View PostTankistu, on 01 October 2019 - 02:12 PM, said:

 

Did you also assume the red team would be first in the Great Race event? How did that go?

Did the Red team have by far and away the best tank(s) then? Selecting a team in the Great Race would be nothing like selecting a team for the scenario in the OP.



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View PostWintermute_1, on 01 October 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

View PostTankistu, on 01 October 2019 - 02:12 PM, said:

 

Did you also assume the red team would be first in the Great Race event? How did that go?

Did the Red team have by far and away the best tank(s) then? Selecting a team in the Great Race would be nothing like selecting a team for the scenario in the OP.

I dont know how this works but if it is like that game mode they trialed for awhile where it was randoms but only same nation tanks per team then the Russian tanks will get trounced again. Everyone taught Rusdian tanks would dominate that game mode but they got destroyed, I had 3 or 4 games at high tier where the Russian team was destroyed without spotting a single one of our vehicles and back then there was cross team chat so they were raging.



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View PostColdspell, on 01 October 2019 - 04:06 PM, said:

I dont know how this works but if it is like that game mode they trialed for awhile where it was randoms but only same nation tanks per team then the Russian tanks will get trounced again. Everyone taught Rusdian tanks would dominate that game mode but they got destroyed, I had 3 or 4 games at high tier where the Russian team was destroyed without spotting a single one of our vehicles and back then there was cross team chat so they were raging.

I think that was called 'confrontation' mode (?) and doubt they'll do it again. It was a complete failure. I expect they'll just add up some metric from all the tanks you play from a single nation in randoms and aggregate everyones together. If thats the case: Russia wins because across the types / tiers, they simply have the most effective tanks. 



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View PostColdspell, on 01 October 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:

I dont know how this works but if it is like that game mode they trialed for awhile where it was randoms but only same nation tanks per team then the Russian tanks will get trounced again. Everyone taught Rusdian tanks would dominate that game mode but they got destroyed, I had 3 or 4 games at high tier where the Russian team was destroyed without spotting a single one of our vehicles and back then there was cross team chat so they were raging.

 

Ah, 'confrontation' was great. Russia got their 'engine decks' handed to them at just about any tier. Never had so much fun playing the Easy Eight - that's for sure. :D



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View PostTheKing99, on 01 October 2019 - 10:48 PM, said:

 

Ah, 'confrontation' was great. Russia got their 'engine decks' handed to them at just about any tier. Never had so much fun playing the Easy Eight - that's for sure. :D

I played a lot of Jagdpanther 1 and some DMAX at the time, basically auto pen every shot :)



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View PostTheKing99, on 01 October 2019 - 11:48 PM, said

Ah, 'confrontation' was great. Russia got their 'engine decks' handed to them at just about any tier. Never had so much fun playing the Easy Eight - that's for sure. :D

 

The only thing I remember about that mode was playing at tier 6 against hordes of pre nerf Hellcats and having some of the most 1 sided games I've ever played.



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View PostWintermute_1, on 01 October 2019 - 11:28 PM, said:

 

The only thing I remember about that mode was playing at tier 6 against hordes of pre nerf Hellcats and having some of the most 1 sided games I've ever played.

 

It was a funny mode but ultimately I think they removed it because some nations were seriously under performing in it *cough* Russia *cough*. I think their claim for removing it was imbalance between certain nations but in reality especially in the higher tiers it was Everyone> Russia. The one weakness russian tanks had at the time was view range and that everyone tended to play idiot proof heavies with poor view range or boomsticks with poor view range with a few Russian meds thrown in.

Games ended up like Masses of heavy tanks + boomsticks & 2 meds, once the meds were killed the Russians were completely blind and the game devolved into whack a rusky. 

It would be interesting to see how the game mode worked out now with all the new tanks and the Higher tier Light tanks.



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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 01 October 2019 - 01:41 PM, said:

Russia is not european. It's not asian either. It's Russia. It should be in it's own event.

 

Disclaimer: I wasn't serious about that

 

Don't tell it to the russians, our former president used to say 'the black sea, seen as russian lake by them'. :)



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View PostWintermute_1, on 01 October 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

Did the Red team have by far and away the best tank(s) then? Selecting a team in the Great Race would be nothing like selecting a team for the scenario in the OP.

 

Well, yes, it can't be the exact same thing, but there were guys saying "pick Team Clutch, always pick Russia in WoT" before the event started.

Also, if the OP was right, most/all people would be playing T50s to win races, but I see plenty of Chaffees and Leopards.



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View PostColdspell, on 02 October 2019 - 01:13 AM, said:

 

It was a funny mode but ultimately I think they removed it because some nations were seriously under performing in it *cough* Russia *cough*. I think their claim for removing it was imbalance between certain nations but in reality especially in the higher tiers it was Everyone> Russia. The one weakness russian tanks had at the time was view range and that everyone tended to play idiot proof heavies with poor view range or boomsticks with poor view range with a few Russian meds thrown in.

Games ended up like Masses of heavy tanks + boomsticks & 2 meds, once the meds were killed the Russians were completely blind and the game devolved into whack a rusky. 

It would be interesting to see how the game mode worked out now with all the new tanks and the Higher tier Light tanks.

 

If I`m not mistaken there was indeed an issue, but a different one: almost every tier had a different nation at an advantage. Much depended on the map, either and if I remember correctly Hermans were performing pretty well in the high tiers. 
However, a horde of Bat Chats could be a tough opponent!

 



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View PostTankistu, on 02 October 2019 - 02:43 PM, said:

 

Well, yes, it can't be the exact same thing, but there were guys saying "pick Team Clutch, always pick Russia in WoT" before the event started.

Also, if the OP was right, most/all people would be playing T50s to win races, but I see plenty of Chaffees and Leopards.

I don't think it was very clear that certain race teams were aligned to certain countries. The majority of people probably just picked Turbo like me because it sounded the most 'racy' and was the middle option. I'd say the T50 definitely is the most popular choice but you are bound to see chaffees and Leo because they are far better at dealing damage on the track, and that goes a long way towards winning. Ultimately the tanks in the great race are far more balanced against each other than the combined tanks of each nation. 



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View PostColdspell, on 02 October 2019 - 01:13 AM, said:

 

It was a funny mode but ultimately I think they removed it because some nations were seriously under performing in it *cough* Russia *cough*. I think their claim for removing it was imbalance between certain nations but in reality especially in the higher tiers it was Everyone> Russia.

 

Tier 6 was dominated by Hellcats, as they out spotted and out moved KV-85, SU-100, Churchill VII and 3601's. T29 won more or less every tier 7 HT brawl. Tier 8 was full of pre-nerf Borsigs and BL-10's. High tier vs France was basically 15 clip guns vs 15 alpha guns. And that could go both ways. So Russia did not always dominate, but Germany won the least for sure.

 

The issue is that you have a focus for each nation on roles. And when a support nation fights a brawling nation on Ensk. It's not gonna end well.

 



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View PostBalc0ra, on 02 October 2019 - 03:03 PM, said:

 

Tier 6 was dominated by Hellcats, as they out spotted and out moved KV-85, SU-100, Churchill VII and 3601's. T29 won more or less every tier 7 HT brawl. Tier 8 was full of pre-nerf Borsigs and BL-10's. High tier vs France was basically 15 clip guns vs 15 alpha guns. And that could go both ways. So Russia did not always dominate, but Germany won the least for sure.

 

The issue is that you have a focus for each nation on roles. And when a support nation fights a brawling nation on Ensk. It's not gonna end well.

 

I got lucky quite often with my multi skilled Jagdpanther crew, in my DMAX with open maps and didn't get outspotted much (hardly at all) ;)



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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 01 October 2019 - 04:11 PM, said:

Russia is not european. It's not asian either. It's Russia. It should be in it's own event.

 

Disclaimer: I wasn't serious about that

 

It's an entire continent on it's own! :D 

And i think it means that Russia is an "Eusiopean" country? :D

 



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View PostFalathi, on 02 October 2019 - 01:59 PM, said:

 

if I remember correctly Hermans were performing pretty well in the high tiers. 
 

 

That typo gave me a mental image that made me laugh so much harder than it should have.

 






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