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VarzA #1 Posted 02 October 2019 - 02:01 AM

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https://tanks.gg/com...-pilot-1~m46-kr

 

So i decided to compare some of the t8 american premium meds in this game, for (masochistic) fun, same setup on all of them.

 

I have the T25 Pilot, my first t8 premium .... so i'd like to say thanks to WG; thanks for giving me good gun handling on the Pilot and making me pay just with view range, armor, alpha, dpm, and ammo capacity ... because you seem to think that ammo capacity is a balancing game mechanic.

I'd like to say thanks also on the part of the M46 KR dudes out there who got some extra 'armor' for which they have to pay with mobility and other stuff, only for this thing to come along and make their 'armor' even more of a joke.

 

Would you like now to rebalance the CDC too ?

Maybe give it .02 better accuracy but increase the hidden dispersions values by 10% and terrain resists by 15% ?

Make another french t8 premium med with the same speed, same dpm, light tank gun handling to directly compete with ?

C'mon, you know you want to, you can even put it in a 50 euro bundle ... :)


Edited by VarzA, 02 October 2019 - 02:03 AM.


NoobySkooby #2 Posted 02 October 2019 - 02:24 AM

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View PostVarzA, on 02 October 2019 - 02:01 AM, said:

https://tanks.gg/com...-pilot-1~m46-kr

 

So i decided to compare some of the t8 american premium meds in this game, for (masochistic) fun, same setup on all of them.

 

I have the T25 Pilot, my first t8 premium .... so i'd like to say thanks to WG; thanks for giving me good gun handling on the Pilot and making me pay just with view range, armor, alpha, dpm, and ammo capacity ... because you seem to think that ammo capacity is a balancing game mechanic.

I'd like to say thanks also on the part of the M46 KR dudes out there who got some extra 'armor' for which they have to pay with mobility and other stuff, only for this thing to come along and make their 'armor' even more of a joke.

 

Would you like now to rebalance the CDC too ?

Maybe give it .02 better accuracy but increase the hidden dispersions values by 10% and terrain resists by 15% ?

Make another french t8 premium med with the same speed, same dpm, light tank gun handling to directly compete with ?

C'mon, you know you want to, you can even put it in a 50 euro bundle ... :)

So you like it then, do you have one yet?

 



VarzA #3 Posted 02 October 2019 - 02:32 AM

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View PostNoobySkooby, on 02 October 2019 - 02:24 AM, said:

So you like it then, do you have one yet?

 


No, i no longer spend money on WG, in fact i'm taking it so far as to not get any tanks from FL, and to get the gold/bonds.

My premium time expires after FL episode 9, and i don't intend to add more to it.

 

That being said, i have around 900 games in my Pilot, grinded the M48 line and i absolutely loved the T69/T54E1, so i am familiar with american meds, and watched quite a few replays of the TL-1 LPC.

It's good, good enough for the money ... hell no, good enough to invalidate M46 KR and T25 Pilot ... hell yeah.

This tank will work very well in FL.



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View PostVarzA, on 02 October 2019 - 02:32 AM, said:


No, i no longer spend money on WG, in fact i'm taking it so far as to not get any tanks from FL, and to get the gold/bonds.

My premium time expires after FL episode 9, and i don't intend to add more to it.

 

That being said, i have around 900 games in my Pilot, grinded the M48 line and i absolutely loved the T69/T54E1, so i am familiar with american meds, and watched quite a few replays of the TL-1 LPC.

It's good, good enough for the money ... hell no, good enough to invalidate M46 KR and T25 Pilot ... hell yeah.

This tank will work very well in FL.

I have way too many as it is for FL, this will not be added, certain tanks in the pipeline that look interesting, like the tank with a Bulldozer blade, whenever I see that I wonder if it will act as extra armour, be really interesting if they made it work, lol, drop the blade and create your own hull down position anywhere you like, and then this shotgun heavy coming soon, all money on hold till then, actually by then it may well have run out, lol



TankkiPoju #5 Posted 02 October 2019 - 06:40 AM

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AMX CDC is probably the most disgusting premium tank at the moment, because it's "balanced" by having the terrible soft stats, which WG stll refuses to tell players officially.

 

Because adding the hidden soft stats would "confuse the players".

 

It's probably illegal according to EU consumer laws but since it's WG, they don't care.



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View PostVarzA, on 02 October 2019 - 02:01 AM, 

 

Would you like now to rebalance the CDC too ?

 

They would need to.find a cool French band first, which seems rather difficult if not impossible?

 

Maybe that DJ dude that was best of the world a few times, can't remember his name but I quite sure he's French... with all crazy stuff going on a DJ CDC would fit nicely.



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The TL-1 LPC is the normal tank. The others are just high skill floor tanks meant for skilled players.

 

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 02 October 2019 - 06:40 AM, said:

AMX CDC is probably the most disgusting premium tank at the moment, because it's "balanced" by having the terrible soft stats, which WG stll refuses to tell players officially.

 

Because adding the hidden soft stats would "confuse the players".

 

It's probably illegal according to EU consumer laws but since it's WG, they don't care.

What's even stranger imo is that the su-130pm is so much slower than the Skorpion G, although on paper the mobility seems almost identical. How?!



Cobra6 #9 Posted 02 October 2019 - 07:16 AM

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The CDC needs it's "Titanic on a shingle beach" ground resistance values fixed.

 

Basically the CDC is the equivalent of a light tank with a lot more health, therefore it should get light tank mobility and light tank gun-handling.

 

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It's the soft stats that keep me at bay, the hidden bits

My Lansen had a 320Alpha gun and a 4-5 skill crew with vents and it was worse than a T34-3

 

Was good to start with... life was peachy.... then over time it became a total nightmare to use, it would shoot anywhere except at the tonk you were aiming at

 

Dumped mine a while back now

 

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At least this new tank has a decent turret which can bounce a lot of snapshots


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TankkiPoju #11 Posted 02 October 2019 - 07:50 AM

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 02 October 2019 - 07:04 AM, said:

What's even stranger imo is that the su-130pm is so much slower than the Skorpion G, although on paper the mobility seems almost identical. How?!

 

There was discussion on wotlabs forums about this. The consensus was there is still further hidden stuff going on with the tank parameters, which WG of course will never disclose.

 

One idea was each tank has a point of center mass. Like for example IS7 has lower point of center mass than Obj277, which makes Obj277 much faster and agile.

 

Same with Skorpion G and SU-130PM. Basically a low point of center mass in a tank makes it just slower than stats suggest.

 

But this is of course just speculation.



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At least the T25 Pilot was free for everyone that wanted it (don't think I've played it or my T95E2 in randoms yet).

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 02 October 2019 - 07:50 AM, said:

 

There was discussion on wotlabs forums about this. The consensus was there is still further hidden stuff going on with the tank parameters, which WG of course will never disclose.

 

One idea was each tank has a point of center mass. Like for example IS7 has lower point of center mass than Obj277, which makes Obj277 much faster and agile.

 

Same with Skorpion G and SU-130PM. Basically a low point of center mass in a tank makes it just slower than stats suggest.

 

But this is of course just speculation.

Center of mass? That sounds quite strange to me, how does a higher center of mass make it faster? An effect in turning on the move I can imagine. 

On this forum a while ago I saw a discussion on the gearbox as well when the hidden speed parameters were discussed.



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View PostCobra6, on 02 October 2019 - 07:16 AM, said:

and light tank gun-handling

 

Not sure if that's a good thing :P 



VarzA #15 Posted 02 October 2019 - 11:03 AM

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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 02 October 2019 - 06:50 AM, said:

View PostVarzA, on 02 October 2019 - 02:01 AM, 

 

Would you like now to rebalance the CDC too ?

 

They would need to.find a cool French band first, which seems rather difficult if not impossible?

 

Maybe that DJ dude that was best of the world a few times, can't remember his name but I quite sure he's French... with all crazy stuff going on a DJ CDC would fit nicely.

 

Manu Chao .... not sure if Mano Negra still go on concert.

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 02 October 2019 - 06:40 AM, said:

AMX CDC is probably the most disgusting premium tank at the moment, because it's "balanced" by having the terrible soft stats, which WG stll refuses to tell players officially.

 

Because adding the hidden soft stats would "confuse the players".

 

It's probably illegal according to EU consumer laws but since it's WG, they don't care.

What's even stranger imo is that the su-130pm is so much slower than the Skorpion G, although on paper the mobility seems almost identical. How?!

 

Skorp G has a hidden modifier that amplifies the engine's HP on acceleration.

I remember either a wotlabs thread or a reddit thread about it when the SU-130PM came out.



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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 02 October 2019 - 06:50 AM, said:

They would need to.find a cool French band first, which seems rather difficult if not impossible?

 

Maybe that DJ dude that was best of the world a few times, can't remember his name but I quite sure he's French... with all crazy stuff going on a DJ CDC would fit nicely.


Gojira comes to mind and there are plenty of other bands. Gojira tank would be too cool tho... ;)


Edited by keerk, 03 October 2019 - 03:19 PM.


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Even though I 3marked my T95E2, I prefer the T25 Pilot 1 over it.

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View PostVarzA, on 02 October 2019 - 02:01 AM, said:

https://tanks.gg/com...-pilot-1~m46-kr

 

So i decided to compare some of the t8 american premium meds in this game, for (masochistic) fun, same setup on all of them.

 

I have the T25 Pilot, my first t8 premium .... so i'd like to say thanks to WG; thanks for giving me good gun handling on the Pilot and making me pay just with view range, armor, alpha, dpm, and ammo capacity ... because you seem to think that ammo capacity is a balancing game mechanic.

I'd like to say thanks also on the part of the M46 KR dudes out there who got some extra 'armor' for which they have to pay with mobility and other stuff, only for this thing to come along and make their 'armor' even more of a joke.

 

Would you like now to rebalance the CDC too ?

Maybe give it .02 better accuracy but increase the hidden dispersions values by 10% and terrain resists by 15% ?

Make another french t8 premium med with the same speed, same dpm, light tank gun handling to directly compete with ?

C'mon, you know you want to, you can even put it in a 50 euro bundle ... :)

Soon we might get IS-6 version 2.

 

Which is a copy of the IS-6 but with 10% better overall statistics. For only 50€



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There will be a nice RNG honeymoon period

Even Claus bounced a T34 shot at 3 feet and found penning tanks a doddle

Then they'll flip that switch and move onto the next new tonk



VarzA #20 Posted 04 October 2019 - 11:44 AM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 03 October 2019 - 09:41 PM, said:

Soon we might get IS-6 version 2.

 

Which is a copy of the IS-6 but with 10% better overall statistics. For only 50€


I think they call it Defender, in fact i think the IS-6 was obj 252, U means hardened.

Could be wrong ...






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