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Poll: 279e and Chieftain (103 members have cast votes)

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Put 279e and Chieftain in tier 11?

  1. Yes!!! (53 votes [51.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 51.46%

  2. No, I am noob and suck at this game. (50 votes [48.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 48.54%

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Toni112007 #1 Posted 02 October 2019 - 10:28 PM

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Said enough, I have.

Edited by Toni112007, 02 October 2019 - 10:45 PM.


TheKing99 #2 Posted 02 October 2019 - 10:33 PM

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Nice poll.

 

Would you mind trying to save your own topic and argue why they should be 'tier 11'? Don't you think that the effort put into the campaign for the 279 (e) and the time spent in CW for the Chieftain isn't worth rewarding with a tank slightly better than your ordinary 'pubbie' tanks that 'anyone' can spend cash to unlock? :)



Toni112007 #3 Posted 02 October 2019 - 10:34 PM

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View PostTheKing99, on 02 October 2019 - 10:33 PM, said:

Nice poll.

 

Would you mind trying to save your own topic and argue why they should be 'tier 11'? Don't you think that the effort put into the campaign for the 279 (e) and the time spent in CW for the Chieftain isn't worth rewarding with a tank slightly better than your ordinary 'pubbie' tanks that 'anyone' can spend cash to unlock? :)

No its not. Cause good players don't need rarted broken tanks to curb stomp even more. 


Edited by Toni112007, 02 October 2019 - 10:39 PM.


LordMuffin #4 Posted 02 October 2019 - 10:43 PM

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View PostTheKing99, on 02 October 2019 - 10:33 PM, said:

Nice poll.

 

Would you mind trying to save your own topic and argue why they should be 'tier 11'? Don't you think that the effort put into the campaign for the 279 (e) and the time spent in CW for the Chieftain isn't worth rewarding with a tank slightly better than your ordinary 'pubbie' tanks that 'anyone' can spend cash to unlock? :)

No. It isn't. 



TheKing99 #5 Posted 02 October 2019 - 10:54 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 02 October 2019 - 09:43 PM, said:

No. It isn't. 

 

Good job beating the OP at the lack of effort. Do you mind explaining why that is? Seems like the players advocating 'healthy' gameplay and 'fair' balance have a hard time validating their beliefs. :rolleyes:

 

View PostToni112007, on 02 October 2019 - 09:34 PM, said:

No its not. Cause good players don't need rarted broken tanks to curb stomp even more. 

 

I'm talking about effort, not skills. It's widely known amongst the playerbase that effort (or 'time spent', if you'd like) plays a bigger role than skill, seeing as there's no easy way out of any sort of mission of you simply win a lot of games, or whatever. In other words, would you, effectively, 'nerf' a tank that is gained from sheer effort? Sounds rather counter-productive to me.



Toni112007 #6 Posted 02 October 2019 - 10:57 PM

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View PostTheKing99, on 02 October 2019 - 10:54 PM, said:

 

Good job beating the OP at the lack of effort. Do you mind explaining why that is? Seems like the players advocating 'healthy' gameplay and 'fair' balance have a hard time validating their beliefs. :rolleyes:

 

 

I'm talking about effort, not skills. It's widely known amongst the playerbase that effort (or 'time spent', if you'd like) plays a bigger role than skill, seeing as there's no easy way out of any sort of mission of you simply win a lot of games, or whatever. In other words, would you, effectively, 'nerf' a tank that is gained from sheer effort? Sounds rather counter-productive to me.

The reward tank has to be balanced for tier X. It can't be tier XI put in tier X. Being a reward vehicle is not an excuse for it to be completely overpowered.



8ruTa1_R3ro11_N00b #7 Posted 02 October 2019 - 11:03 PM

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View PostTheKing99, on 02 October 2019 - 10:54 PM, said:

 

Good job beating the OP at the lack of effort. Do you mind explaining why that is? Seems like the players advocating 'healthy' gameplay and 'fair' balance have a hard time validating their beliefs. :rolleyes:

 

 

I'm talking about effort, not skills. It's widely known amongst the playerbase that effort (or 'time spent', if you'd like) plays a bigger role than skill, seeing as there's no easy way out of any sort of mission of you simply win a lot of games, or whatever. In other words, would you, effectively, 'nerf' a tank that is gained from sheer effort? Sounds rather counter-productive to me.

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TheKing99 #8 Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:20 AM

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View Post8ruTa1_R3ro11_N00b, on 02 October 2019 - 10:03 PM, said:

 

Greetings, sir. Would you happen to be one of those toxic people who use 'skill' as an argument? If you aren't, I'd imagine there'd be more to your post.

 

Kind regards,

P. King.

 

View PostToni112007, on 02 October 2019 - 09:57 PM, said:

The reward tank has to be balanced for tier X. It can't be tier XI put in tier X. Being a reward vehicle is not an excuse for it to be completely overpowered.

 

'Tier XI' is but a child of your imagination. What is 'completely overpowered' or 'proper balancing', anyway? Does it not suggest that players are unable to adapt to that particular vehicle? You're never 'forced' to engage another tank, especially one that is playing to its own strengths.



jack_timber #9 Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:20 AM

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Now I wonder what arty would fit in to T11? Something new perhaps....

FrantisekBascovansky #10 Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:27 AM

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View Postjack_timber, on 03 October 2019 - 12:20 AM, said:

Now I wonder what arty would fit in to T11? Something new perhaps....

 

None. All current arty ends between tiers 8 and 9. And it should be like that imho.



TheKing99 #11 Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:31 AM

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View Postjack_timber, on 02 October 2019 - 11:20 PM, said:

Now I wonder what arty would fit in to T11? Something new perhaps....

 

 

...or rather the ingenious device of a rather similar name. Remains to see if it'll does to the game what Mr. Crockett did, according to the song above, for the sake of the US. :P



Immensive #12 Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:37 AM

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@Theking99

 

Nothing personal, but you dont have any T9/t10 or even T8 Tank whit regular MM unlocked. So you prob have zero experience playing against some players in obj 279 and Chieftain and therefore its just the thinking of someone else you are sharing whit us.

 

Still, in regards to Players whit t8 - t9 tank, its more comparable to a harsh torture when you are getting in a 1v1 Situation against a 279.

 

As long as most people keep spamming Standard, sure, who should stop you? 

But when people found out that hey also can use Heat to pen your upper plate 80% of the time or start permaspamming He on your tracks, Oh Boi, there the fun begins.

 

 

Also hulldown Chieftain can be a pain. The thing that makes chieftain dangerous is just the fact, that this tank is way too fast for having that much turretarmor and that kind of gun.

 

 


Edited by Immensive, 03 October 2019 - 12:40 AM.


barison1 #13 Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:41 AM

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View PostToni112007, on 02 October 2019 - 10:28 PM, said:

Said enough, I have.


or just have tanks rebalanced at the tier they are but hey too hard to think of that isnt it?



Stevies_Team #14 Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:42 AM

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Tier 11 means no tier 8s to roflstomp...

 

big lol



TheKing99 #15 Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:47 AM

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View PostImmensive, on 02 October 2019 - 11:37 PM, said:

@Theking99

 

Nothing personal, but you dont have any T9/t10 or even T8 Tank whit regular MM unlocked. So you prob have zero experience playing against some players in obj 279 and Chieftain and therefore its just the thinking of someone else you are sharing whit us.

 

Still, in regards to Players whit t8 - t9 tank, its more comparable to a harsh torture when you are getting in a 1v1 Situation against a 279.

 

As long as most people keep spamming Standard, sure, who should stop you? 

But when people found out that hey also can use Heat to pen your upper plate 80% of the time or start permaspamming He on your tracks, Oh Boi, there the fun begins.

 

 

Also hulldown Chieftain can be a pain. The thing that makes chieftain dangerous is just the fact, that this tank is way too fast for having that much turretarmor and that kind of gun.

 

 

 

Rest assured, by playing a certain tank that lacks so-called 'regular MM' I have plenty of experience facing superior opponents, and can completely accept that they have made efforts to unlock tanks that I do not.

 

Personally, I have the sense of mind to avoid superior tanks if I can, and resort to flanking or finding alternate routes rather than doing what appears to be common - pretending like my tank's relevant against any and all opposition. There are plenty of tanks, even below T10, that are 'a pain' to deal with hulldown. Something like the T29 should've taught you the lesson - and that's not even halfway in the grind towards a T10, according to common-sense math. :rolleyes:

 

PS: Quoting is healthy, '@'-ing does little to nothing in this forum. I'm sure you'd figured as much out in due time, though the forum feedback is typically not as immediate as the one in-game.



Jauhesammutin #16 Posted 03 October 2019 - 07:06 AM

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View PostTheKing99, on 02 October 2019 - 09:33 PM, said:

Nice poll.

 

Would you mind trying to save your own topic and argue why they should be 'tier 11'? Don't you think that the effort put into the campaign for the 279 (e) and the time spent in CW for the Chieftain isn't worth rewarding with a tank slightly better than your ordinary 'pubbie' tanks that 'anyone' can spend cash to unlock? :)

No.

Rewards should be visuals or unique vehicles. Not just straight up better vehicles than in the tech tree. 
Usain Bolt didn't get a 1 second head start because he was the fastest man in the world. Why should top player get better tanks because they are already on top?



Keyanu #17 Posted 03 October 2019 - 07:56 AM

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Nice "balanced" poll. Clearly do not have an agenda

TheKing99 #18 Posted 03 October 2019 - 08:13 AM

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View PostJauhesammutin, on 03 October 2019 - 06:06 AM, said:

No.

Rewards should be visuals or unique vehicles. Not just straight up better vehicles than in the tech tree. 
Usain Bolt didn't get a 1 second head start because he was the fastest man in the world. Why should top player get better tanks because they are already on top?

 

Would you deny Mr. Bolt using his sponsorship income for better shoes, or a good football team buying the best players?

The reward tanks may be 'better' than those available without much effort spent, but it's a matter of definition if they are anything out of the ordinary. The mission sets demand a lot of time, much more time than unlocking a new line in the tech tree - what would be the point of those missions if you get some '3D style' featuring some silly 90s band?



AlphaBot_ #19 Posted 03 October 2019 - 08:30 AM

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ONLY when its modern tanks .. abrams and else...

Pansenmann #20 Posted 03 October 2019 - 08:33 AM

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I want the old Tier spread from 2014 back, Just for one week.




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