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TRojan_Zax #1 Posted 03 October 2019 - 07:16 AM

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this super heavy Tank is broken don't you ever think to have, you will end up selling it after you get a heart attack.
yes that's true, that Tank will cause you heart attack because of its stupid light turret armor, almost every tanks destroyer 8.9.10 will be able to smash Maus and Mauschen front plate and turret , even other heavies will penetrate this stupid tank turret. 

save your time, believe me  you will sell it 



Negativvv #2 Posted 03 October 2019 - 07:25 AM

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WG loves having stuff outside of the meta curve.

 

Why fight against it and play clearly unsuitable stuff? 

 

Unloading an Autoloader clip into the rear of a reloading Maus is a great stats padded though...



barison1 #3 Posted 03 October 2019 - 07:36 AM

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do you angle your turret on maus between shots? turret becomes near invulnerable front on when doing so unless something like e3 spams apcr

park your hull diagonal against a building or use rocks to hide the lowerplate and you should be fine, maus is all about angling

 

maus is like one of the best tanks to block tons of dmg



Argedeava #4 Posted 03 October 2019 - 07:42 AM

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I think if they place a chinesse light turret it will be a better tank.

Or two!


Edited by Argedeava, 03 October 2019 - 07:44 AM.


Tankistu #5 Posted 03 October 2019 - 08:21 AM

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View Postbarison1, on 03 October 2019 - 06:36 AM, said:

 

maus is like one of the best tanks to block tons of dmg

 

Just blocking dmg is not what made Maus appealing.

Players wanted the Maus because it could block dmg AND push through the line/flank like a hot knife through butter.

Now it has to sit, angle and wiggle just to block dmg, and in most cases, even if it does that successfully, it gets raped at the end. 

Maus is completely out of place for what the game has become. 



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Steve the HT driver complaining yet again that a completely over-armored heavy tank still doesn't have enough armour instead of improving his play.

And by listening to this garbage and giving these tanks more armor, WG is slowly pushing WoT downhill and making the game worse.

 

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tajj7 #7 Posted 03 October 2019 - 09:30 AM

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View PostTankistu, on 03 October 2019 - 07:21 AM, said:

 

Just blocking dmg is not what made Maus appealing.

Players wanted the Maus because it could block dmg AND push through the line/flank like a hot knife through butter.

Now it has to sit, angle and wiggle just to block dmg, and in most cases, even if it does that successfully, it gets raped at the end. 

Maus is completely out of place for what the game has become. 

 

No tank should just be able to press RRR and drive in the open and bounce everything. That is completely dumb game design and is what has led to tanks like the Type 5 and Bobject, completely broken and OP tanks. 

 

Maus has never been about that either, it's always been a roadblock tank, you push through the flank when you have thinned the numbers and that is why you have 3k hit points. 



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View Posttajj7, on 03 October 2019 - 09:30 AM, said:

 

No tank should just be able to press RRR and drive in the open and bounce everything. That is completely dumb game design and is what has led to tanks like the Type 5 and Bobject, completely broken and OP tanks. 

 

Maus has never been about that either, it's always been a roadblock tank, you push through the flank when you have thinned the numbers and that is why you have 3k hit points. 


The only block i see is the "inside the box" thinking by wg (offer what mainstream consumer wants) that led to pimpy tanks wit parrot-like design.



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So the basic complaint is that the Maus isn't invulnerable? Who'd have thunk it.

 

Properly angled the Maus is really hard to damage for most other tanks even with premium shells, but as with every tank, don't overexpose yourself, don't assume nothing can penetrate you, be careful with your weakspots, and don't tease the deathstars. TDs are made to kill highly armoured vehicles so they have the penetration and alpha to really hurt you. You're not Superman. Or SuperMaus.

 

Quite frankly if that thing had mobility it'd be the most overpowered vehicle in the game by far.



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View PostDorander, on 03 October 2019 - 10:02 AM, said:

So the basic complaint is that the Maus isn't invulnerable? Who'd have thunk it.

 

Properly angled the Maus is really hard to damage for most other tanks even with premium shells, but as with every tank, don't overexpose yourself, don't assume nothing can penetrate you, be careful with your weakspots, and don't tease the deathstars. TDs are made to kill highly armoured vehicles so they have the penetration and alpha to really hurt you. You're not Superman. Or SuperMaus.

 

Quite frankly if that thing had mobility it'd be the most overpowered vehicle in the game by far.


No.

The main complaint is that is not what is was supposed to be, an assault tank. Having to look away from a targhet to have better chance to bounce is premeditated stupidity probably resulted from some frustrations.



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View PostCobra6, on 03 October 2019 - 09:23 AM, said:

Steve the HT driver complaining yet again that a completely over-armored heavy tank still doesn't have enough armour instead of improving his play.

And by listening to this garbage and giving these tanks more armor, WG is slowly pushing WoT downhill and making the game worse.

 

Cobra 6

 

 

Without checking his stats I bet he owns a Löwe that he drive to the beach on Overlord.



barison1 #12 Posted 03 October 2019 - 10:39 AM

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View PostArgedeava, on 03 October 2019 - 10:09 AM, said:


No.

The main complaint is that is not what is was supposed to be, an assault tank. Having to look away from a targhet to have better chance to bounce is premeditated stupidity probably resulted from some frustrations.


glad you are not a wg dev, game would been dead for ages then

 

we dont need more stupid designs like type5 that is just RRRRRRR and being invulnerable unless spamming gold to even remotely make a chance to pen it



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View PostArgedeava, on 03 October 2019 - 09:09 AM, said:


No.

The main complaint is that is not what is was supposed to be, an assault tank. Having to look away from a targhet to have better chance to bounce is premeditated stupidity probably resulted from some frustrations.

 

You are complaining about what the Maus has been since it's introduction into the game. Don't like it, don't grind the Maus, it's been in the game for like 7-8 years, and it has pretty much had the same playstyle since it started. 

 

You are asking for it be something it is not and never has been, you are also asking for basically an idiot proof tank (and the Maus is massively forgiving to poor play anyway) and we already have too many of those as it is and they have made the game and gameplay worse.

 

Also the Maus is performing more than fine at the moment - 

 

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And is therefore not in need of a buff, if anything when the premium ammo changes come in which will be a massive buff to heavy tanks, the Maus will properly need to be nerfed as it's likely to be OP again. 



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View Posttajj7, on 03 October 2019 - 10:49 AM, said:

 

 

And is therefore not in need of a buff, if anything when the premium ammo changes come in which will be a massive buff to heavy tanks, the Maus will properly need to be nerfed as it's likely to be OP again. 

wouldnt surprise me if they would nerf turretface back to old values again then (240mm instead of 260mm)

 

still fear wg will forget about armor nerfs and total randoms becoming HT HE spamfest, like armored warfare was at the beginning, take quite well armored mbt and just spam HE at the other as you couldnt pen



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View Posttajj7, on 03 October 2019 - 10:49 AM, said:

 

You are complaining about what the Maus has been since it's introduction into the game. Don't like it, don't grind the Maus, it's been in the game for like 7-8 years, and it has pretty much had the same playstyle since it started. 

 

You are asking for it be something it is not and never has been, you are also asking for basically an idiot proof tank (and the Maus is massively forgiving to poor play anyway) and we already have too many of those as it is and they have made the game and gameplay worse.

 

Also the Maus is performing more than fine at the moment - 

 

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And is therefore not in need of a buff, if anything when the premium ammo changes come in which will be a massive buff to heavy tanks, the Maus will properly need to be nerfed as it's likely to be OP again. 


If trolls would have voices they would sing songs of glory about WG, but they just hrr hrr.



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View Postbarison1, on 03 October 2019 - 09:55 AM, said:

wouldnt surprise me if they would nerf turretface back to old values again then (240mm instead of 260mm)

 

still fear wg will forget about armor nerfs and total randoms becoming HT HE spamfest, like armored warfare was at the beginning, take quite well armored mbt and just spam HE at the other as you couldnt pen

 

I played on Sandbox with where they turned premium ammo off and were testing the 'role' concept, and this was pre-buff Maus and pre-buff Type 5 without the derp gun and that was basically what heavy v heavy battles were, they just sat in the open and spammed HE at other, fun and dynamic gameplay.

 

But yeh that is also my worry, they should exactly nerf the Mau's cheeks back to 240 so most tier 10s can pen it there flat on reliably, and they need to nerf Type 5 armour, not to mention the horror that the 279e will be with nerfed premium ammo. 

 

But they won't, probably because of players like we have in this thread who demand invincible armoured tanks that they can just drive at the enemy with and bounce everything. 

 

View PostArgedeava, on 03 October 2019 - 09:58 AM, said:

If trolls would have voices they would sing songs of glory about WG, but they just hrr hrr.

 

Top argument :facepalm:, seeing as you can't formulate an actual coherent response, I'll just take that as a you agreeing with me and that you admit you were talking rubbish. 


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View PostArgedeava, on 03 October 2019 - 10:58 AM, said:


If trolls would have voices they would sing songs of glory about WG, but they just hrr hrr.

Wow what a comeback. How bout addressing the issue that Maus isn't and hasn't been assault tank, never was intended to be one, and has more than enough armor to roll over average teams' line still? With good enough support Maus line can do linebreaking and function as nigh-invincibe lynchpoint for defensive situation. It has exellent gunhandling (which t8 and t9 do not), so making oneself invulnerable until enemy shoots usually isn't a problem. It isn't a problem for vk nor for Mauschen, but those have weakspots smart ones can use... And still sound of heat failing to pen and apcr plinking come very familiar.



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View Post4nt, on 03 October 2019 - 11:08 AM, said:

Wow what a comeback. How bout addressing the issue that Maus isn't and hasn't been assault tank, never was intended to be one, and has more than enough armor to roll over average teams' line still? With good enough support Maus line can do linebreaking and function as nigh-invincibe lynchpoint for defensive situation. It has exellent gunhandling (which t8 and t9 do not), so making oneself invulnerable until enemy shoots usually isn't a problem. It isn't a problem for vk nor for Mauschen, but those have weakspots smart ones can use... And still sound of heat failing to pen and apcr plinking come very familiar.


You are right except the assault purpose, yet parallel to my point. The one above you (tajj7) is just turbo bla bla.

Heavy tanks were to be in the front of an attack to break through heavy defences: as in an assault.

And to my point: any unrealistic feature if cultivated leads into stupidity. Like little princess smashing arround knights with 3 times bigger sword than she. I know this concept is largely cultivated in all games, media..etc Beying popular doesn`t make it right. Is just stupid. As stupid as Pz7`s mantlet as weakpoint.



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View PostArgedeava, on 03 October 2019 - 11:30 AM, said:


You are right except the assault purpose, yet parallel to my point. The one above you (tajj7) is just turbo bla bla.

Heavy tanks were to be in the front of an attack to break through heavy defences: as in an assault.

And to my point: any unrealistic feature if cultivated leads into stupidity. Like little princess smashing arround knights with 3 times bigger sword than she. I know this concept is largely cultivated in all games, media..etc Beying popular doesn`t make it right. Is just stupid. As stupid as Pz7`s mantlet as weakpoint.


Front of the attack is something different than pushing forwards like a dope.

 

And it's already the only tier 10 in which you manage to be useful, which makes your whole point moot.



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I thought the idea was to soak up shots using your armour and HP so others can push (pretend arty doesn't exist)  Trouble is that requires team work from a random group of strangers





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