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mcxmcx #1 Posted 06 October 2019 - 01:38 AM

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Can anyone categorically tell me that there are not two pools of players:

                                 

            1)  Those who pay for premium account and get to play in a higher proportion of stronger teams

            2)   And then free to play players who will play mostly in weaker teams

 

I ask because i have run out of money and my premium account has lapsed, this happened b4 and i noticed the difference then.

 

Perhaps it is just an unlucky streak and i have gone from 52% over the last 6 months - down to 48% over the last month,  yet my ave damage (wn8 and all that jazz) has been consistently still climbing .

 

 



Coldspell #2 Posted 06 October 2019 - 01:48 AM

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It would be way way to complicated to run effectively given the tier spread, what metric they are using for rating good players and the ratio of premium accounts to non premiums on at any one time.

Maybe you are playing differently because it lapsed or possibly like myself you were away for awhile let it lapse and are working your way back up to your previous level of play.



Homer_J #3 Posted 06 October 2019 - 01:54 AM

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Having premium or not has never made a difference to my win rate.

 

Also there are players who made a 2nd account and played completely free to play and got just as good results as their original account.

 

So, no it's just confirmation bias.



mateyflip #4 Posted 06 October 2019 - 07:34 AM

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I have a premium account and am still awful.

 

Hang in there geeza.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #5 Posted 06 October 2019 - 08:11 AM

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View Postmcxmcx, on 06 October 2019 - 01:38 AM, said:

Can anyone categorically tell me that there are not two pools of players:

                                 

            1)  Those who pay for premium account and get to play in a higher proportion of stronger teams

            2)   And then free to play players who will play mostly in weaker teams

 

 

There are not two pools of players. 



Bora_BOOM #6 Posted 06 October 2019 - 08:17 AM

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They wouldn't allow any of that if they are smart. Technically it would be possible but way to complicated. There are no evidence MM is rigged, so I would look for a problem elsewhere. I mean, for how long would you have to use premium acc for it to make a difference? I have never experienced any benefits.

You say all the "jazz" is fine. How many battles have you played? Have you had a break, grinding tanks, play higher tiers? I had bad streaks for more than a month twice, so it is possible you are unlucky. 


Edited by Bora_BOOM, 06 October 2019 - 08:24 AM.


250swb #7 Posted 06 October 2019 - 08:32 AM

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View Postmcxmcx, on 06 October 2019 - 12:38 AM, said:

Can anyone categorically tell me that there are not two pools of players:

 

 

 

There are three pools of players,

 

1/ Those that adapt to changes in the game as they happen and have the ability of self analysis to achieve this.

 

2/ Those that don't adapt and want to blame everybody except themselves.

 

3/ Those who reach their skill cap and can't accept they aren't the unicums they appeared to be at tier VI when they start to play tier VIII.

 

You need to take a deep breath and ask yourself the basic questions, are you playing different tanks after your Premium account lapsed, are you playing at higher or lower tiers, do you find you can't use Premium ammo when needed because you aren't earning the credits, has your favourite tank been overtaken by others in gameplay, has it been nerfed, etc., the list is long, but somewhere down it the answer will intersect with one or more of the points above.

 



AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #8 Posted 06 October 2019 - 08:36 AM

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Payed zero on this game ,git gud .

Bigtime_Alarm #9 Posted 06 October 2019 - 08:41 AM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 06 October 2019 - 08:11 AM, said:

 

There are not two pools of players. 

most days it feels like there are but I have no idea why I am in the one that gets the bad MM, bad RNG and enemies who had a 4 leaf clover sarnie for breakfast.



Baldrickk #10 Posted 06 October 2019 - 08:47 AM

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My WR went up after I stopped buying premium account.

NUKLEAR_SLUG #11 Posted 06 October 2019 - 09:30 AM

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View PostBigtime_Alarm, on 06 October 2019 - 08:41 AM, said:

most days it feels like there are but I have no idea why I am in the one that gets the bad MM, bad RNG and enemies who had a 4 leaf clover sarnie for breakfast.

 

You don't, you get the exact same maps/MM/RNG on average as everyone else does, the only constant is you.

 

If you want some suggestions as to how to improve then post up some replays and ask for constructive criticism. Genuine requests for guidance are usually responded to well around here. 



kaneloon #12 Posted 06 October 2019 - 09:36 AM

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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 06 October 2019 - 07:36 AM, said:

Payed zero on this game ,git gud .

 

Well not everyone has been as gifted as you, if you see what I mean ...



TankkiPoju #13 Posted 06 October 2019 - 09:39 AM

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Yes there are two pools of players:

 

1. those who blame their mistakes on MM, rigged games and/or having premium account.

 

2. those won't don't.



PayMore #14 Posted 06 October 2019 - 09:47 AM

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Im noticing big differences between non prem/prem. I allso notice after buyting fort knox packages that my wn8 and most importantly winrate goes up. I ofc use more gold then but that shouldnt matter. 

NUKLEAR_SLUG #15 Posted 06 October 2019 - 09:50 AM

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View PostPayMore, on 06 October 2019 - 09:47 AM, said:

Im noticing big differences between non prem/prem. I allso notice after buyting fort knox packages that my wn8 and most importantly winrate goes up. I ofc use more gold then but that shouldnt matter. 

 

Well lucky you then, you found a reason to spend your next 100€. 



mtnm #16 Posted 06 October 2019 - 09:56 AM

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Apparently, the premium account usage is saved in replays so someone who has a replays parser could prove / disprove this if it hasn't been already. I believe it's not rigged this way because if I were to rig a match making I wouldn't leave any trace for others to see (directly of through statistics analysis).

AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #17 Posted 06 October 2019 - 10:54 AM

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View Postkaneloon, on 06 October 2019 - 09:36 AM, said:

 

Well not everyone has been as gifted as you, if you see what I mean ...

I have one premuim tank proggeto from marathon for free the rest are expired rentals ,deal with it .



Balc0ra #18 Posted 06 October 2019 - 11:08 AM

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I've not bought premium time in the last 4 years almost. My WR has not gone down in those years.... but rather slowly up. I guess I have my tinfoil hat inside out for it to work correctly.

malachi6 #19 Posted 06 October 2019 - 11:22 AM

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You want someone to prove a negative?  What evidence do you have for the existence of such a two pool system other than your own experience?  

 

Here are a couple of theories to suggest a change in win rate that does not rely upon WG penalising players.  You are playing higher tier vehicles than you are used to and you are a; not in fully researched tanks, Or you hit your skill cap.  I will never be a very good player due to a whole slew of reasons I do not need to discuss, but as a critical thinker, am aware of.   My theory is no more valid than yours until evidence for such is presented.  However, all possibilities need to be considered until such time as they can be reasonably discarded.


Edited by malachi6, 06 October 2019 - 11:23 AM.


4nt #20 Posted 06 October 2019 - 02:17 PM

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My WR has been consistently lower since purchasing premium. Reason is simple- I grind more higher tier tanks at a time than I would regularily.




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