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avr7002 #1 Posted 06 October 2019 - 04:53 PM

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Still seem to me, that wr is more to do with luck than skill. I had watched lot of good WOT streamers and it seem to me, that they have all but my RNG. They hit weak spots and PEN almost every shot at half on second, bouncing near all enemy shots. I have just different stories. Usually enemy hit and pen all shots at second when I am spotted, even when I moving my tank actively. But I dont hit nor pen nothing. Even my gold ammo usually hit tracks or some part on enemy tank, 0 dmg. Usually only 1 of my 6 shot will make dmg. BTW I had spent in WOT 3400 euros, so for money you got just what is described, no better rng

http://wotreplays.eu...c3b8f13bcae1bac

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fwhaatpiraat #2 Posted 06 October 2019 - 04:58 PM

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You get better rng from 5000€. From 7500€ you get better teams and thus winrate.

ChristOfTheAbyss #3 Posted 06 October 2019 - 04:59 PM

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Aim better, its that simple.

Homer_J #4 Posted 06 October 2019 - 05:24 PM

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Kudos on the OP for posting some replays, I'll go jump on my gaming PC and take a look.

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View Postavr7002, on 06 October 2019 - 04:53 PM, said:

Still seem to me, that wr is more to do with luck than skill. I had watched lot of good WOT streamers and it seem to me, that they have all but my RNG. They hit weak spots and PEN almost every shot at half on second, bouncing near all enemy shots. I have just different stories. Usually enemy hit and pen all shots at second when I am spotted, even when I moving my tank actively. But I dont hit nor pen nothing. Even my gold ammo usually hit tracks or some part on enemy tank, 0 dmg. Usually only 1 of my 6 shot will make dmg. BTW I had spent in WOT 3400 euros, so for money you got just what is described, no better rng

http://wotreplays.eu...c3b8f13bcae1bac

http://wotreplays.eu...c3b8f13bcae1bac

 

If you pay me 3k€

I can give you good teams for a day.



Nishi_Kinuyo #6 Posted 06 October 2019 - 05:28 PM

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Have you considered getting good at the game?

MindCrack #7 Posted 06 October 2019 - 05:29 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 06 October 2019 - 05:25 PM, said:

If you pay me 3k€

I can give you good teams for a day.

I'll do it for half, and if my information is correct his rng rigger is not nearly as good as mine



Homer_J #8 Posted 06 October 2019 - 05:36 PM

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View Postavr7002, on 06 October 2019 - 04:53 PM, said:

Still seem to me, that wr is more to do with luck than skill. I had watched lot of good WOT streamers and it seem to me, that they have all but my RNG. They hit weak spots and PEN almost every shot at half on second, bouncing near all enemy shots. I have just different stories. Usually enemy hit and pen all shots at second when I am spotted, even when I moving my tank actively. But I dont hit nor pen nothing. Even my gold ammo usually hit tracks or some part on enemy tank, 0 dmg. Usually only 1 of my 6 shot will make dmg. BTW I had spent in WOT 3400 euros, so for money you got just what is described, no better rng

http://wotreplays.eu...c3b8f13bcae1bac

http://wotreplays.eu...c3b8f13bcae1bac

 

 

First replay, four minutes in and you have done nothing apart from get shot by arty while the battle clearly rages all around the map, everywhere but where you are.

 

You then realise you have to move or the enemy will be coming at your rear.

 

The first two shots you take without aiming, they bounce/ricochet because you didn't take half a moment to aim.

 

The third shot you take at the spaced side armour of a sidescraping 50TP, you can't always trust the penetration indicator but at least you tried to aim.

 

After that you start to do damage but it's all too late those four minutes you spent doing nothing have caught up with you.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #9 Posted 06 October 2019 - 05:43 PM

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View Postavr7002, on 06 October 2019 - 04:53 PM, said:

Still seem to me, that wr is more to do with luck than skill. I had watched lot of good WOT streamers and it seem to me, that they have all but my RNG. They hit weak spots and PEN almost every shot at half on second, bouncing near all enemy shots. I have just different stories. Usually enemy hit and pen all shots at second when I am spotted, even when I moving my tank actively. But I dont hit nor pen nothing. Even my gold ammo usually hit tracks or some part on enemy tank, 0 dmg. Usually only 1 of my 6 shot will make dmg. BTW I had spent in WOT 3400 euros, so for money you got just what is described, no better rng

http://wotreplays.eu...c3b8f13bcae1bac

http://wotreplays.eu...c3b8f13bcae1bac

 


Game 1: You went to the corner and sat there doing nothing for 3 minutes.. were you AFK? You didn't even move the mouse.  Also, try less lumberjacking, it attracts arty. You should have flanked back when that 50tp took the centre as he was always going to do well there. You were slow reacting to their push and they were pressing into your base before you turned back to defend.

 

As for your bounced shots. The first two you didn't even bother to aim, just fired third person, why? The third was just poorly aimed and when you actually aimed properly the remaining ones went it. 

 

Game 2: No real issue with your choice of position, but you were unlucky enough to meet a 252U and you kept shooting at the strongest part of his turret armour, you need to take the time to aim properly and hit those weakpoints. Just blazing shots off in his general direction is not going to work.



Homer_J #10 Posted 06 October 2019 - 05:45 PM

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Second replay.

 

You only hit 3 of your six shots.

 

One is taken at a truck in the street in Himmelsdorf in the vain hope of hitting the tank behind it, that was never going to do anything but bounce but at least you cleared the truck.

 

Then you try to snipe the cupola of an OBJ252 without aiming properly and shoot despite having a red penetration indicator, you bounce off his turret.

 

Next you shoot a rubble pile the obj is hiding behind.

 

Then you try to pixel snipe the cupola with a clear shot at his UFP perfectly angled for you to penetrate, you even move your sight over it and it goes green.

 

Another rushed pixel snipe goes over and misses.

 

You get one penetration on his cupola and it's all over for you because throughout you totally failed to hide your weakspots.

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 06 October 2019 - 05:43 PM, said:


 

Game 2: No real issue with your choice of position, but you were unlucky enough to meet a 252U

That wasn't bad luck.  He over extended and put himself in an easy position for the OBJ despite knowing it was there.



Balc0ra #11 Posted 06 October 2019 - 05:49 PM

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From your replays, bad positioning aside. You need to take time to aim more often vs snapping or half aiming. Rushed shots will just go wide, and hit air or more effective armor etc.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #12 Posted 06 October 2019 - 05:54 PM

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I took a look at the two replays and there are problems. Not with the RNG but with your shooting. In the Fjords battle you shot your gun 5 times and penetrated 2 times. In Himmelsdorf, you shot 6 times, connected 3 shots and penetrated 1. Not a lot of shooting happened in both battles for RNG to be a factor!

 

That's screaming 'practice' not RNG, tank, money or any other reasons. Create a training room with a friend and practice your shooting. Also please drop the binos, it's a Lowe for crying out loud. The thing got more view range than a lot of the same tier lights and even some of the tier 9s. Optics will do beautifully with the good crew you have.

 

Fjords:

 

  • At the start of the battle, why not take the lower road and use the position of the TVP? From your angle, you're open to arty and there will be nothing to shoot after they cross.

 

  • Couple of minutes into the battle, what are you waiting for? You either go forward to support your heavies or go back to defend the base.

 

  • After the enemy reached your base why not side scrape at the rock in front of you? You were waiting for them to come around the corner and shoot you in your exposed hull when what you needed to do is preserve your HP.

 

  • The 2 shots you took at the 5/1 were really badly aimed at auto bounce angles basically. Same with the 50TP shot.

 

Himmelsdorf:

 

  • Why are you backing off from the cover in front of you? That rubble is covering your lower plate.

 

  • The defender's turret is very armored same as the Lowe's. The one careful shot you aimed at the cupola penetrated. The rest were just wishful thinking.

Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 06 October 2019 - 06:05 PM.


Bulldog_Drummond #13 Posted 06 October 2019 - 06:18 PM

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Refreshing to see constructive comments to genuine questions.

 



avr7002 #14 Posted 06 October 2019 - 06:24 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 06 October 2019 - 05:36 PM, said:

 

First replay, four minutes in and you have done nothing apart from get shot by arty while the battle clearly rages all around the map, everywhere but where you are.

 

You then realise you have to move or the enemy will be coming at your rear.

 

The first two shots you take without aiming, they bounce/ricochet because you didn't take half a moment to aim.

 

The third shot you take at the spaced side armour of a sidescraping 50TP, you can't always trust the penetration indicator but at least you tried to aim.

 

After that you start to do damage but it's all too late those four minutes you spent doing nothing have caught up with you.

If I shot tier 8 tank backside, with gold ammo, I have to take time, for full aiming, on sweat spot? Otherwise 3 gold APRC ammo in row dont pen tier 8?

 



NUKLEAR_SLUG #15 Posted 06 October 2019 - 06:26 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 06 October 2019 - 05:45 PM, said:

That wasn't bad luck.  He over extended and put himself in an easy position for the OBJ despite knowing it was there.

 

He was ok there initially to support the VK, he just didn't notice the 252 changing position and moving up the inside. 

 

View Postavr7002, on 06 October 2019 - 06:24 PM, said:

If I shot tier 8 tank backside, with gold ammo, I have to take time, for full aiming, on sweat spot? Otherwise 3 gold APRC ammo in row dont pen tier 8?

 


You didn't hit the back, you hit the side, because you didn't bother aiming. If you had aimed properly you would have hit and done damage without gold ammo. Loading gold doesn't just mean you can pull the trigger and do damage.


Edited by NUKLEAR_SLUG, 06 October 2019 - 06:29 PM.


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Spend your money on a streaming channel for WoT and you'll get the good RNG

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View Postavr7002, on 06 October 2019 - 03:53 PM, said:

Still seem to me, that wr is more to do with luck than skill. I had watched lot of good WOT streamers and it seem to me, that they have all but my RNG. They hit weak spots and PEN almost every shot at half on second, bouncing near all enemy shots. I have just different stories. Usually enemy hit and pen all shots at second when I am spotted, even when I moving my tank actively. But I dont hit nor pen nothing. Even my gold ammo usually hit tracks or some part on enemy tank, 0 dmg. Usually only 1 of my 6 shot will make dmg. BTW I had spent in WOT 3400 euros, so for money you got just what is described, no better rng

 

Play something other than a Lowe ? 

 


Edited by Bordhaw, 06 October 2019 - 07:09 PM.


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Fort Knox is the answer, gives a 100% boost to RNG. Try it.

LordMuffin #19 Posted 06 October 2019 - 09:51 PM

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View PostMindCrack, on 06 October 2019 - 05:29 PM, said:

I'll do it for half, and if my information is correct his rng rigger is not nearly as good as mine

[edited]free market.



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View Postavr7002, on 06 October 2019 - 04:53 PM, said:

Still seem to me, that wr is more to do with luck than skill. I had watched lot of good WOT streamers and it seem to me, that they have all but my RNG. They hit weak spots and PEN almost every shot at half on second, bouncing near all enemy shots. I have just different stories. Usually enemy hit and pen all shots at second when I am spotted, even when I moving my tank actively. But I dont hit nor pen nothing. Even my gold ammo usually hit tracks or some part on enemy tank, 0 dmg. Usually only 1 of my 6 shot will make dmg. BTW I had spent in WOT 3400 euros, so for money you got just what is described, no better rng

http://wotreplays.eu...c3b8f13bcae1bac

http://wotreplays.eu...c3b8f13bcae1bac

 

 

Looking at your stats and i notice you only play higher tiers, with average almost at 9.
Do yourself a favor and get a few nice mid tier tanks. Its easier to carry battles. 






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