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Poll: T29, T30 & T34 (119 members have cast votes)

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Is T29 good tier for tier?

  1. Yes. (118 votes [99.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 99.16%

  2. No. (1 vote [0.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.84%

Is T30 good tier for tier?

  1. Yes. (100 votes [84.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 84.03%

  2. No. (19 votes [15.97%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.97%

Is T34 good tier for tier?

  1. Yes. (23 votes [19.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.33%

  2. No. (96 votes [80.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 80.67%

Which one of the three is the best IYO?

  1. T29 (89 votes [74.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 74.79%

  2. T30 (28 votes [23.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.53%

  3. T34 (2 votes [1.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.68%

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The_Naa #1 Posted 07 October 2019 - 08:53 PM

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Hello. :)

 

I've been thinking about starting American Heavy line and turreted TD line grind and maybe loosening my wallet so that a American T34 might find its way into my garage.. 

 

But before that I want to ask which one is the best.

T29, T30 or the T34?

The way I see it is that they are all the same tank with different gun and Tier but are the same in every other way.

They are good looking pixels and i would like to drive those things into the heat of battle. 

But a little bit of light on what to expect before I manage to get my hands on them could help. :)

 

Thanks in advance. 



splash_time #2 Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:00 PM

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T 30 is a good tank, but tier for tier? I'll choose e4, because it has overall better armour, and better gun reload plus penetration. 

I got T34 B from black market, not the worse? I guess. :D



JocMeister #3 Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:00 PM

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T34 is absolute rubbish.

T29 is best tier 7 tank and one of the best tanks tier for tier in the game.

T30 is pretty decent but the gun is too trollish to make it really enjoyable to play. At least for me.



Folau #4 Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:02 PM

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T29 is amazing tier-for-tier, and one of the few T7s that are actually worth a damn.

 

T30 is also very good with the turret, gun depression, and alpha. Then again I think of it as a heavy tank, not a standard "TD".

 

T34 is very meh in comparison.



Evilier_than_Skeletor #5 Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:03 PM

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Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to step away from the T34.

Balc0ra #6 Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:06 PM

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Tier for tier T29 is def the best our of those. It's still solid as it was metas ago. T34 has great pen for a tier 8 HT... but that's about all it has.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #7 Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:08 PM

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Hello,

 

First, thanks for the vote of confidence in the other thread. I owe you one. :)

 

On topic, the T29 is a beautiful tank and one of the best in its tier and class. If there were no O-Ni in tier 7, people will be complaining about it a lot. Mostly because it requires some careful game play since it's a hull down tank. Charging the enemy on open ground won't work but on the other hand it's a very comfortable tank to be bottom tier in. The turret is still good and you have enough pen on the gold round.

 

The T30 is also okay at tier 9, not great but okay. When you compare it to the superior T95, it sure doesn't look that good. Still a very scary gun with very scary gold pen and alpha. Although the turret armor isn't going to be as indestructible as in tier 7.

 

I prefer not to talk about the T34, that could hurt some people's feelings. :)



NekoPuffer_PPP #8 Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:11 PM

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Am I the only one who voted T34 is good tier for tier? :D

 

I mean, in tier 7 it'd be OP, and in tier 9 it would suck even more, so technically it is "good" tier for tier at tier 8. Highest standard pen of any heavy tank at tier 8...shame it trades everything else for it. :confused: 248mm with AP, Löwe has 234mm with AP, second placed.



PointZero #9 Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:18 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 07 October 2019 - 11:11 PM, said:

Am I the only one who voted T34 is good tier for tier? :D

 

You're mixing "it's balanced for its tier" with "it is a good tier 8"



MeNoobTank #10 Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:27 PM

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T34 is very sad tank, do not touch it, do not talk about it, let it die alone in the corner of sadness.

The_Naa #11 Posted 07 October 2019 - 09:49 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 07 October 2019 - 09:11 PM, said:

Am I the only one who voted T34 is good tier for tier? :D

 

I mean, in tier 7 it'd be OP, and in tier 9 it would suck even more, so technically it is "good" tier for tier at tier 8. Highest standard pen of any heavy tank at tier 8...shame it trades everything else for it. :confused: 248mm with AP, Löwe has 234mm with AP, second placed.

 

I have to admit im kinda amazed as well.

 

On paper it looks fine...

T29 is looks great ill grant that.

T30 is a little better and its 2 tiers higher.

And T34 falls just in between with alpha, penetration, HP and the armor model is the same.

I... I dont know what to say...

T29 is god tier and can hold against tier 9's.

T34 is bad somehow because its better than the T29 on paper.

T30 is good again because reasons.

 

What went wrong?

Someone plz explain. 


Edited by The_Naa, 07 October 2019 - 09:51 PM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #12 Posted 07 October 2019 - 10:33 PM

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View PostThe_Naa, on 08 October 2019 - 12:49 AM, said:

I have to admit im kinda amazed as well.

 

On paper it looks fine...

T29 is looks great ill grant that.

T30 is a little better and its 2 tiers higher.

And T34 falls just in between with alpha, penetration, HP and the armor model is the same.

I... I dont know what to say...

T29 is god tier and can hold against tier 9's.

T34 is bad somehow because its better than the T29 on paper.

T30 is good again because reasons.

 

What went wrong?

Someone plz explain. 

 

If you mean what went wrong with the T34, take a look at these numbers...

 

 

Horrible gun handling combined with abysmal DPM and bad mobility. All you get in return is some nice penetration values that wouldn't matter much when you can't hit anything. 400 alpha used to be very good a few years ago but now we got 440 and 490 on a much better platforms.


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 07 October 2019 - 10:56 PM.


Dava_117 #13 Posted 07 October 2019 - 10:34 PM

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I love the T30. The only things it really miss are gun stabilization and DPM. Considering it's an HT in disguise, both of them would favour the brawling/mid range supporter it's based on.

But it still is a nice tank, that can do things other tanks can't, like overmatching SConqueror turret. :)



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 07 October 2019 - 11:33 PM, said:

 

If you mean what went wrong with the T34, take a look at these numbers...

 

 

Horrible gun handling combined with abysmal DPM and bad mobility. All you get in return is some nice penetration values that wouldn't matter much when you can't hit anything. 400 alpha used to be very good a few years ago but now we got 440 and 490 on a much better platforms.

 

When was the last time the T34 had its stats changed/buffed?

 

Never?

 

Never. :) Wanna see what playing WoT several years ago was like? Experience the nostalgia RIGHT NOW and get yourself a T34!

 

...no, don't. We gotta yell at WG to give it some love and care! :izmena: It's one of the oldest tier 8 premium tanks in the game! It's the daddy! Show yo daddy some love!

 

I swear I'm not on anything. :rolleyes:



Schepel #15 Posted 08 October 2019 - 12:17 AM

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The sad thing is that the T34 was in fact buffed. Technically speaking, of course. In real terms it wasn't.

 

Once upon a time it was a very solid T8 premium tank. It even saw real use in CW by solid clans. These days it is a relic of bygone days.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #16 Posted 08 October 2019 - 12:35 AM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 08 October 2019 - 03:04 AM, said:

When was the last time the T34 had its stats changed/buffed?

 

Never?

 

Never. :) Wanna see what playing WoT several years ago was like? Experience the nostalgia RIGHT NOW and get yourself a T34!

 

...no, don't. We gotta yell at WG to give it some love and care! :izmena: It's one of the oldest tier 8 premium tanks in the game! It's the daddy! Show yo daddy some love!

 

I swear I'm not on anything. :rolleyes:

 

Patch 9.17 back in December 2016. It was a good time for WOT regardless. Killed QB's Maus in Karelia defense with the Strv 103B.: izmena_jap:

 

T34 Buffs

  • Decreased dispersion of the 120 mm Gun T53A1 gun during hull traverse from 0.32 to 0.28    
  • Decreased dispersion of the 120 mm Gun T53A1 gun during movement from 0.32 to 0.28    
  • Decreased dispersion of the 120 mm Gun T53A1 gun during turret traverse from 0.24 to 0.22    
  • Improved aiming time of the 120 mm Gun T53A1 gun from 3.4 s to 3.2 s    
  • Increased the view range from 360 to 380 m

 

Compared to the Lowe for example...

 

Lowe Buffs

  • Increased armor thickness of the upper front glacis from 130 to150 mm    
  • Improved gun depression angle from -8 to -10    
  • Increased engine power of the Maybach HL 230 engine from 800 h.p. to 1000 h.p.    
  • Increased thickness of hull armor

 

A lot of the old premiums were buffed in that patch. Most notable buffs were the Revalorisé and the WZ-111 but looks like the T34 buffs were very conservative and ineffective to improve the tank. I mean 3 seconds aim time on an american tank is still very bad and it's a 120mm gun with 400 alpha not a 150mm with 600.


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 08 October 2019 - 12:49 AM.


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Out of those three, all are good, but the T34 is a little less good than the others. Namely in the dpm department. And the gun handling is sort of horrible, but: it's good training for the horrible gun handling of the T30's 750 alpha gun as well.

 

Can't describe them too precisely in a reasonable amount of time, but I'd say they're all playable enough that #BuyAndTry is a fair option. Beware that you need to be very flexible with your tactical ideas though, and you gotta plan ahead a bit, straight from the battle start, cause they are very sluggish tanks. Come to think of it, if you like to spin around a lot and quick flank changes are what you're always looking for, better don't buy them.

 

#TheyAreTooSlow

#ItsATrap


Edited by 1ucky, 08 October 2019 - 03:40 AM.


undutchable80 #18 Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:26 AM

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Thread talking about US higher Tier HTs.

T32 doesnt get mentioned.

*T32 cries in corner*

 

#MakeAmericaGreatAgain!



SuperOlsson #19 Posted 08 October 2019 - 07:46 AM

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Dont buy the T34! It's absolute rubbish these days, and that's coming from someone with ~2k battles in it, it was decent up until 2014, but even back then people complained about its gun handling. Then in 2015 it was powercreeped into oblivion. Like really, nowadays T26e4 is a better tank in terms of firepower, mobility and armour, even if you disregard the special mm. A progetto can pretty much peek out and empty its whole clip into you before you are fully aimed. If you really need an American heavy, Chrysler and T26E5 are better choices.

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Playing the T34 is painful, really bad.
T29 is great but not if you get focused by 3 SPGs. Didn't play the T30 a lot, but it felt really sluggish (mobility, gun), I would rather play wt auf pz iv I think.




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