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Kellomies #41 Posted 15 January 2012 - 09:01 PM

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The US never *had* a true infantry tank, and hence ended up using just about anything that was available for infantry close support - AFAIK M10 Wolverines actually fired more HE than AP during the war. Pretty much the only thing actually designed for the purpose was the M8 Scott - an M5 with a 75mm howitzer - and that probably pulled double duty in recce support...

Anyway, there seems to be some confusion here between "main battle tank" in the sense of "the thing used as the primary combat AFV" and "main battle tank" as a *concept*, which are entirely different things. The former is simply whatever now was available in quantity - the Italians used what by most others' standards would have been considered "light tanks", which predictably didn't work out too well - whereas the latter is a design paradigm.

Catarraz #42 Posted 15 January 2012 - 09:15 PM

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Finally, some sensible words! Well said.

Axia #43 Posted 18 April 2012 - 02:59 PM

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I Want to test it!! looks like an great low teir!

sharlin648 #44 Posted 07 June 2012 - 10:20 AM

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The whole problem is that us Brits clung to the need to differentiate between infantry tanks and cruiser tanks.  The Churchill as mentioned was really the apex of Infantry tank design.  Slow, well armoured (even more so in later marks) and adequately armed (Well armed when it was designed) which were built to slog forwards with the infantry and give support to break the enemy lines.  Once the lines were broken the fast cruiser 'cavalry' tanks would surge through and use the breech caused by the attacking infantry and infantry tanks to break into the enemy's rear and destroy his guns and communications.

Our tank doctrine never really got beyond WW1 stuff pre-war.  All that above is just basically WW1 tactics but with the addition of tanks.

Tigger3 #45 Posted 08 June 2012 - 02:37 PM

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View Postsharlin648, on 07 June 2012 - 10:20 AM, said:

The whole problem is that us Brits clung to the need to differentiate between infantry tanks and cruiser tanks.  The Churchill as mentioned was really the apex of Infantry tank design.  Slow, well armoured (even more so in later marks) and adequately armed (Well armed when it was designed) which were built to slog forwards with the infantry and give support to break the enemy lines.  Once the lines were broken the fast cruiser 'cavalry' tanks would surge through and use the breech caused by the attacking infantry and infantry tanks to break into the enemy's rear and destroy his guns and communications.

Our tank doctrine never really got beyond WW1 stuff pre-war.  All that above is just basically WW1 tactics but with the addition of tanks.

Its the same tactic the Soviets used to great effect and kept until the dissolution of the USSR, also the reason the Germans started designing Heavy tanks in the late 30's and eventually resurrected the designs after encountering the British Matilda's,  French B1's and Souma S35's which led to the Tiger I.

arek_2002 #46 Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:29 PM

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1 tier, a czołg średni?:) Super!:)

Amphiskios #47 Posted 30 August 2012 - 10:44 PM

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Since the Vickers Medium Mk I & II tanks are going to become available when the British tank tree is introduced in 8.0, I thought it might be nice to give this thread a bump. It's interesting to see that the Brits are going to have a medium tank as their tier I clunker. Can't wait to play it, but I'm afraid I'll just have to...

Decus_91 #48 Posted 31 August 2012 - 04:36 AM

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View PostAmphiskios, on 30 August 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Since the Vickers Medium Mk I & II tanks are going to become available when the British tank tree is introduced in 8.0, I thought it might be nice to give this thread a bump. It's interesting to see that the Brits are going to have a medium tank as their tier I clunker. Can't wait to play it, but I'm afraid I'll just have to...

The British tree isn't coming out in 0.8, it's coming out in 0.8.1. Only the Matilda Black Prince, a premium tank, is being released with 0.8.

Amphiskios #49 Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:28 AM

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Thank you for correcting me, Decus_91. Seems I missed that little yet crucial detail.

myfabi94 #50 Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:03 PM

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I think that the introduction of a tier 1 Medium would also lead to tier II heavies. I'm thinking about the Mark I-X family.




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