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XxKuzkina_MatxX #1 Posted 08 October 2019 - 09:32 PM

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This is a bit late to the party but at least it got final stats and the gold price. The T54E2 changed its name to the M54 Renegade but kept that obvious cupola.

 

 

DPM: 2209

Damage: 360

Penetration: 226/255 mm

Shell Velocity: 1080/1380 m/s (good!)

View range: 400 m

Hit points: 1500

Hull armor: 152.4/76.2/38.1 mm

Turret armor: 250/140/40 mm

Crew: 4 (commander/radio operator-driver-gunner-loader)

Price: 10k gold

 

Gun handling and accuracy

 

Dispersion: 0.36

Moving: 0.14

Tank traverse: 0.14

Turret traverse: 0.1

Aim time: 2.4s

Gun elevation: 20°

Gun depression: 10°

 

Mobility

 

Engine power: 800 HP

Top speed: 45/17 Km/h

Specific Power: 16.15 HP/ton

Tank traverse: 36.51°/s

Turret traverse: 35.46°/s

 

Notes:

 

  • It can snipe now to a degree thanks to the better accuracy (0.36) because originally it had 0.4 accuracy. So now it can keep its distance to help protect that cupola.

 

  • The mobility is more like a medium tank and the more i write in this thread, the more it looks like an E5.

 

  • The M48A2 Raumpanzer price was also set at 7.5k and the E75 TS is still 'priceless'. Let's hope the best of the 3 will become a marathon tank. ;)

 

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Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 10 October 2019 - 04:31 PM.


Dava_117 #2 Posted 08 October 2019 - 10:20 PM

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Looks cool. Love that turret shape, like an upside down ship. :)

Edited by Dava_117, 08 October 2019 - 10:20 PM.


mjs_89 #3 Posted 08 October 2019 - 11:55 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 08 October 2019 - 10:20 PM, said:

Looks cool. Love that turret shape, like an upside down ship. :)

 

Maybe you can drive it when you flip it in water? That would be an interesting new mechanic for sure...



Schepel #4 Posted 09 October 2019 - 12:37 AM

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I like.

undutchable80 #5 Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:37 AM

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Looks decent enough, except the cupola puts me off... 



FatigueGalaxy #6 Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:58 AM

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So...

  • T54E1's armour at tier 8 with a better turret plus huge weakspot
  • 360 alpha (2nd best, not counting Chimera)
  • 2nd best penetration on tier 8
  • 3rd best DPM on tier 8... but first place is a TD and second place has 240 alpha gun

Mobility looks bad/average but that's about it. Combination of very good pen, alpha and DPM make it look like tier 8.5 - just  compare it to Lansen (worse pen, no armour) or UDES 14 (less pen, DPM, no armour) which have similar guns. This thing would be a decent tier 9 if slightly buffed or even a very good tier 8 heavium. Sure, cupola is a big deal but imagine fighting against it in your tier 8 medium - you have less pen, alpha, worse armour and you have to snipe a cupola of another medium unless it's completely out of position...

Nerfing its DPM to 1.8k (same as UDES) would be a start.

nvm, it's a heavy tank.


Edited by FatigueGalaxy, 09 October 2019 - 12:14 PM.


tajj7 #7 Posted 09 October 2019 - 10:02 AM

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The T110E5 speed should be buffed to something like that.

 

It looks decent, but that cupola puts me off, makes most tanks like that basically armourless. 

 

Also the E75 TS is basically the same tank but with a smaller cupola no? 



XxKuzkina_MatxX #8 Posted 09 October 2019 - 10:14 AM

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View PostFatigueGalaxy, on 09 October 2019 - 12:58 PM, said:

So...

  • T54E1's armour at tier 8 with a better turret plus huge weakspot
  • 360 alpha (2nd best, not counting Chimera)
  • 2nd best penetration on tier 8
  • 3rd best DPM on tier 8... but first place is a TD and second place has 240 alpha gun

Mobility looks bad/average but that's about it. Combination of very good pen, alpha and DPM make it look like tier 8.5 - just  compare it to Lansen (worse pen, no armour) or UDES 14 (less pen, DPM, no armour) which have similar guns. This thing would be a decent tier 9 if slightly buffed or even a very good tier 8 heavium. Sure, cupola is a big deal but imagine fighting against it in your tier 8 medium - you have less pen, alpha, worse armour and you have to snipe a cupola of another medium unless it's completely out of position...

Nerfing its DPM to 1.8k (same as UDES) would be a start.

 

 

It's a heavy not a medium. :)

 

View Posttajj7, on 09 October 2019 - 01:02 PM, said:

The T110E5 speed should be buffed to something like that.

 

It looks decent, but that cupola puts me off, makes most tanks like that basically armourless. 

 

Also the E75 TS is basically the same tank but with a smaller cupola no? 

 

It's more accurate than the E75 TS with better gun handling but way worse armor. The shell velocity on all 3 types are very high to suit sniping better i guess.



Immensive #9 Posted 09 October 2019 - 10:35 AM

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So far a pretty decent tank to me. Only concerned about the cupoula of the tank, could be a big difference in close combat situations for the life server. (For example comparing T95e2 whit Tl 1)

tajj7 #10 Posted 09 October 2019 - 10:39 AM

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On WOT inspector it seems to reckon the front of the cupola is 190mm thick, which means some lower tiers won't be able to pen it but most higher tiers will with ease. 

 

Not a solution I think is a good one, why not have a much smaller cupola that is harder to hit but all tanks facing it can pen?



Desyatnik_Pansy #11 Posted 09 October 2019 - 11:52 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 09 October 2019 - 10:14 AM, said:

It's a heavy not a medium. :)

 

So unlike the other stuff might actually be worth me grabbing considering I have the AEP At Tier IX As well. The TL-1 LPC Looked kinda interesting but I'm not running an American medium crew now, so this will fit my garage far better.



FatigueGalaxy #12 Posted 09 October 2019 - 12:15 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 09 October 2019 - 10:14 AM, said:

 

It's a heavy not a medium. :)

 


Damn, lol.

I was scared there for a bit...



nighthawk24 #13 Posted 04 December 2019 - 01:10 PM

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He has pref mm? I want to know if I can play it in platoon.

Miepie #14 Posted 04 December 2019 - 01:55 PM

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View Postnighthawk24, on 04 December 2019 - 01:10 PM, said:

He has pref mm? I want to know if I can play it in platoon.


No, it does not have preferential matchmaking.



Balc0ra #15 Posted 04 December 2019 - 02:13 PM

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View Postnighthawk24, on 04 December 2019 - 01:10 PM, said:

He has pref mm? I want to know if I can play it in platoon.

 

No new premium have pref MM anymore. So now you know for anything that comes later too.



Sael_ #16 Posted 04 December 2019 - 05:44 PM

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Congratulations for getting the tank, OP, and thank you for sharing all the interesting information and beautiful pictures. :D

 

View Postmjs_89, on 08 October 2019 - 10:55 PM, said:

 

Maybe you can drive it when you flip it in water? That would be an interesting new mechanic for sure...

 

Thank you for your totally unironic suggestion, I will pass it on for reasons completely different than it matches my sense of humor. :D

 

 

 



Spurtung #17 Posted 04 December 2019 - 05:53 PM

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View PostSael_, on 04 December 2019 - 04:44 PM, said:

Congratulations for getting the tank, OP

 

Did you happen to see the date?


Edited by Spurtung, 04 December 2019 - 05:53 PM.






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