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Kalonianhydra #1 Posted 09 October 2019 - 07:13 PM

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RNG in this game isn't RNG.

How many times have you missed a target even if you are fully aimed?
And that's even when you have about 80% of the target covered. Or when you have around 70-80% covered, but the shot still goes in a spot where i doesn't hit.

How about the times when you have had a perfect side shot on a light with a 155mm gun, and for some reason it bounces. That should not even be possible.

 

And the wheeled tanks, you shoot and hit with 155mm gun and they get a puncture. [edited]they need to change a lot in this game.

The RNG [edited]is strong at the moment.



malachi6 #2 Posted 09 October 2019 - 07:34 PM

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Counter argument.  How many times have you been driving at high speed and hit a distant target?  How many have you blown a turret off?  How many times have you been on low HP and bounced a shot?

 

A recurring issue appears to be people associating positive RNG with ability and negative RNG with the game being out to get them.  This is known as an observation or confirmation bias, which then leads to a post hoc fallacy.  Given your comment does not even consider these possibilities.  Do you really believe your point is reasonable?


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Kalonianhydra #3 Posted 09 October 2019 - 07:41 PM

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View Postmalachi6, on 09 October 2019 - 06:34 PM, said:

Counter argument.  How many times have you been driving at high speed and hit a distant target?  How many have you blown a turret off?  How many times have you been on low HP and bounced a shot?

 

A recurring issue appears to be people associating positive RNG with ability and negative RNG with the game being out to get them.  This is known as an observation or confirmation bias, which then leads to a post hoc fallacy.  Given your comment does not even consider these possibilities.  Do you really believe your point is reasonable?

That doesn't happen even close to the same amount as the other, but I do get set on fire a lot and the ammo rack seems to break quiet frequently. But the amont of times I manage to do that to my opponets is by far less.



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View PostKalonianhydra, on 09 October 2019 - 07:41 PM, said:

That doesn't happen even close to the same amount as the other, but I do get set on fire a lot and the ammo rack seems to break quiet frequently. But the amont of times I manage to do that to my opponets is by far less.


playing tanks that have frontal ammoracks/fuel tanks alot? if yes then theres your answer



BravelyRanAway #5 Posted 09 October 2019 - 07:49 PM

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View PostKalonianhydra, on 09 October 2019 - 06:41 PM, said:

That doesn't happen even close to the same amount as the other, but I do get set on fire a lot and the ammo rack seems to break quiet frequently. But the amont of times I manage to do that to my opponets is by far less.

Then do explain how your damage output is higher than your damage received and your destruction ratio is high?



Kalonianhydra #6 Posted 09 October 2019 - 07:54 PM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 09 October 2019 - 06:49 PM, said:

Then do explain how your damage output is higher than your damage received and your destruction ratio is high?

I'm just that good

 



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View PostKalonianhydra, on 09 October 2019 - 07:13 PM, said:

RNG in this game isn't RNG.

How many times have you missed a target even if you are fully aimed?
And that's even when you have about 80% of the target covered. Or when you have around 70-80% covered, but the shot still goes in a spot where i doesn't hit. 

 

With those numbers, I'd say about 1 in 5.



gunslingerXXX #8 Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:05 PM

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I propose SMMRNG:

sometimes manipulated, mostly random number generator.



Dorander #9 Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:06 PM

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So you claim that RNG does not work as expected, and your evidence is that something with a 70%-80% chance doesn't happen 100% of the time?

 

I'd say that's RNG working exactly as expected. So does highschool mathematics.



Kalonianhydra #10 Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:21 PM

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View PostDorander, on 09 October 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

So you claim that RNG does not work as expected, and your evidence is that something with a 70%-80% chance doesn't happen 100% of the time?

 

I'd say that's RNG working exactly as expected. So does highschool mathematics.

Nope, again RNG was smiling in my face, to fully aimed shots after each other missed, distance maybe 200 meters, that's not even possible. There is something that makes it miss, it's not RNG, it's programed

 



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View PostKalonianhydra, on 09 October 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:

I'm just that good

 

Way to miss a point.:facepalm:



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View PostKalonianhydra, on 09 October 2019 - 07:21 PM, said:

Nope, again RNG was smiling in my face, to fully aimed shots after each other missed, distance maybe 200 meters, that's not even possible. There is something that makes it miss, it's not RNG, it's programed

 

 

Nearly 30k battles and you still don't realize that being fully aimed doesn't mean you're using a laser?

 

There is something that makes it miss, it is programmed, and it still is RNG. Weird how that works huh. What it isn't is predetermined, prejudiced or inconsistent.


Also, replay?



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View PostKalonianhydra, on 09 October 2019 - 07:41 PM, said:

That doesn't happen even close to the same amount as the other, but I do get set on fire a lot and the ammo rack seems to break quiet frequently. But the amont of times I manage to do that to my opponets is by far less.

 

No it does not. But it still happens often enough. It's just that when you have a good match, or a winning streak, or you hit often. You take little notice of it. But when that losing streak comes, or you never hit 5 games in row. That you always notice. And thus it will always seem to be off-balance. 



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View PostKalonianhydra, on 09 October 2019 - 07:41 PM, said:

That doesn't happen even close to the same amount as the other, but I do get set on fire a lot and the ammo rack seems to break quiet frequently. But the amont of times I manage to do that to my opponets is by far less.

 

Evidence other than a feeling?



NUKLEAR_SLUG #15 Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:43 PM

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View PostKalonianhydra, on 09 October 2019 - 08:21 PM, said:

Nope, again RNG was smiling in my face, to fully aimed shots after each other missed, distance maybe 200 meters, that's not even possible. There is something that makes it miss, it's not RNG, it's programed

 

 

So it's not possible to miss a target at 200m when you only have it 80% covered...

 

I think the only thing we've proven here is that you're 100% not very smart.



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It's a kind of dodgy internet casino RNG

Argedeava #17 Posted 10 October 2019 - 05:48 AM

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Edited*


Edited by darksum87, 10 October 2019 - 03:02 PM.
*This post has been edited by the moderation team due to inappropriate remarks.


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View PostBalc0ra, on 09 October 2019 - 07:42 PM, said:

View PostKalonianhydra, on 09 October 2019 - 07:41 PM, said:

That doesn't happen even close to the same amount as the other, but I do get set on fire a lot and the ammo rack seems to break quiet frequently. But the amont of times I manage to do that to my opponets is by far less.

 

No it does not. But it still happens often enough. It's just that when you have a good match, or a winning streak, or you hit often. You take little notice of it. But when that losing streak comes, or you never hit 5 games in row. That you always notice. And thus it will always seem to be off-balance. 

Lucky shots are skill and missed shots are biased RNG...



Captain_Kremen0 #19 Posted 10 October 2019 - 08:14 AM

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View PostKalonianhydra, on 09 October 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:

I'm just that good

 

2 warning points prevents me from answering this as I would like.



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View PostCaptain_Kremen0, on 10 October 2019 - 08:14 AM, said:

2 warning points prevents me from answering this as I would like.

Well, he does seem to have missed few courses of elementary school maths, no wonder he feels like that. Naturally no evidence whatsoever to one or other side is to be seen. Just typical WoT elite answer, ignore this sad thread to preseve some faith in humanity's future.







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