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____Green____ #1 Posted 11 October 2019 - 09:52 AM

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Hi!

 

So one last mission left on second front (obj279e)

Any suggestions for tanks to get 3xM in 20 battles?

I'm not looking for the easiest way, I'm looking for the cheapest. : D

 

My opinion best tier VIII+ for this one:

USA: T49; (Sheridan +grand battles)

UK: Centurion I

France: BC-12t, Somua SM, (BC-24t + grand battles)

 

Any suggestions?

 



barison1 #2 Posted 11 October 2019 - 09:54 AM

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bc12t has pretty low reqs so far i remember, just do couple k spot and couple k dmg and should be ace. pen isnt too bad and if just clipping some paper tanks it should be utter cheap to run

 

 


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chainreact0r #3 Posted 11 October 2019 - 10:00 AM

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Move a 4+ skill crew in a T32, play with big gun, use food and shoot gold.

The tank is crap, but the requirements are low, so all you need is to get into games where you can sit hull down and farm tanks that are not very armored.

If you can, use vents+vents directive instead of optics so you still have enough view range to rack up the assistance and not lose overall performance.

The game that gave me the 279 was 7.1k dmg and 1.7k base xp in T32 so good luck :P.



TheDrownedApe #4 Posted 11 October 2019 - 10:04 AM

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^^ both of these options are suitable. But i suspect the 12t will be less painful. JUST REMEMBER to stay alive as that late game spotting can enhance your Exp massively

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Just checked wotreplays BC-12t sorted by exp and looks like ezpz.

My personal best on tier VII premium pewpewpewpewpew french light 13-57 was like 6 or 7 Masters in a row, so I think bc-12t is right choice.

19 battles to get two "M" is more than enough.

 

t32 this time is not a option because im @ t29 still and e5 is not actual anymore (chief, scq in hangar). Any suggestions for UK/USA?

 

Looks like centurion mk.I for me - PR in last battles 5753 by WTR


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fwhaatpiraat #6 Posted 11 October 2019 - 10:46 AM

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Bc12t, T32, KV-4

tajj7 #7 Posted 11 October 2019 - 11:02 AM

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Tech tree tanks, at tier 8, that are not actually terrible but are generally played poorly.

 

T32 and Bat Chat 12t, Cent 1 as you say seems a decent option. 

 

Pershing and T69 probably as well. 

 

If you look at wotreplays for ace tankers, tier 8, over the last 3-4 patches, sort by experience lowest then it seems FV207 and Lorraine 155 are the most common. 

 

Remove arty and Indien Panzer, TS-5, TVP VTU, Borsig, etc. show up a lot.

 

For US/UK it's TS-5, T28 prot, and Charioteer.

 

I;d imagine playing TDs a bit more actively than the average bob who usually camps hard in them probably produces aces without needing much more than about 1.1k XP. 


Edited by tajj7, 11 October 2019 - 11:09 AM.


JOSEBA_PRIME #8 Posted 11 October 2019 - 11:26 AM

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I used orders to deal with Alliance, but I completed coallition-15 with honours using this tank:

 

P44 Pantera, P44 Pantera, P44 Pantera.

 

i think pantera is turbo good option, it is almost the same tank as progetto but with 1,2k base exp req instead of 1,4k.

 

 



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I play a lot on somua, progetto, AMX13-57 (random battles) so coalition was completed automaticly with some extra sweat on spg.

Aliance was ezpz except chimera-15 (secondary task).

3 orders gone to close 279e - BLOC and Im going to skip UNION 

 

Worst part in this situation is that I accidentally spent order on Coalition-14, weekend, couple of beers, bad wg's translation to my native language and messed it up with chimeras BLOC-9:( and if 3 out of 5 is possible to be top 1 by dmg, - 4 out of 5 for me is almost impossible)

 

Ok, huge tnx for support and information. 

Will try tonight  BC-12t and get this sht done on livestream.

 

Once again - tnx to all!

 

 



the_nebuchadnezzar #10 Posted 11 October 2019 - 12:11 PM

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For US, I did it in the T69, carrying lots of gold rounds. 5k dmg+spotting combined in tier 9 or 10 battles it's enough.

I still working hard for the rest. But my plan is Vk, tier 8 HT, for GER, the TVP, tier 8 med, for SWE/FR/IT and the chinese tier 8 med for USSR/CHINA. I hope they work fine. I don't aim for Ace Tanker, Class 1 is enough.


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Ohh, btw if i go for bc12t - two maps I can block! First is himmel for sure and suggestions for second? Paris/minsk/tundra/empire/airfield? Ensk and Ruin-b is not even a option - just luw those maps on LT's.

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View Post____Green____, on 11 October 2019 - 12:04 PM, said:

Im going to skip UNION

I was focusing on the UNION line (the French blocking mission got changed after I started doing the Russian/Chinese missions); I gave it a try with the abysmal T-34-2 without much success. With the T-54 I got really close; as in 1 or 2 shots away from the ace in the 15th battle. I gave it a try in the WZ-132A (tier 9); fast, good camo, decent alpha and dpm. If you are a good light tank player I can suggest that one too, I could have done it with that one too. But I did it with the KV-4. A friend suggested me that vehicle after I already did the first ace and still needed two more in 10 games or so. I replied to him: "but it is very slow, it cannot make spots, won't do much early dmg and falls short in the end game". I gave it a try and got an ace in the first game I played with it. The terrible E100 on the enemy team might have helped me getting the ace though ;) The game after was a tier 8 only game on Highway. Also was lucky to get an ace after a fairly decent battle. And that's how I finished the one and only line of missions for the 279e. KV-4 will definitely not leave the garage :teethhappy:

 

 

View Post____Green____, on 11 October 2019 - 12:18 PM, said:

Ohh, btw if i go for bc12t - two maps I can block! First is himmel for sure and suggestions for second? Paris/minsk/tundra/empire/airfield? Ensk and Ruin-b is not even a option - just luw those maps on LT's.


Paris for sure. Tier 8 only battles still provide opportunities for an ace on Himmelsdorf btw. Anyway, gl.


Edited by fwhaatpiraat, 11 October 2019 - 12:26 PM.


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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 11 October 2019 - 01:25 PM, said:

I was focusing on the UNION line (the French blocking mission got changed after)

done those ones on kran or FL emil with 3rd or 4th try.

 

View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 11 October 2019 - 01:25 PM, said:

Paris for sure. Tier 8 only battles still provide opportunities for an ace on Himmelsdorf btw. Anyway, gl.

 

Assault mode and 3-5-7 at bottom, aggresive teammates, gameplay with clasic track-dmg-dmg or track-dmg-retrack @ decap shot. But yeah, mostly its face to face battle there - so im going to skip it on standart battles. 


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Anything you feel comfortable playing, really. Tech tree tanks are usually a very good choice, but any tank will do. It is about how you perform in them, not how everybody else performs in them. This may sound odd, but you can pick tanks with low requirements all day long, if you perform crap in them, you won't get your aces done. :-)

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Please don't complete the mission :P, there are enough Object 279(e) in the game already. Looking forward to the next HE battle in my 705A:facepalm:.

Edited by Hagane1, 11 October 2019 - 09:34 PM.


snowlywhite #16 Posted 12 October 2019 - 02:29 AM

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why would you block paris? south start with light, if you get some tds to shoot what you spot and you can already be at 2-3k.

 

not talking about yoloing, talking about spotting from the tree. north, ok... not so fun.

 

but empire/moutain/abbey? What do you do on empire with 12t? You need depression everywhere and you're a happy person...

 

p.s. - you know how it's with the missions, right? you'll do in what you expect least :P


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From the tier 8 tanks I recently played the Cent I do seem a really good choice. I got a lot of Aces in it while grinding it. Same goes for T28-proto. Löwe is another good contender. Reqs is extremely low and the amazing WR throws spotting XP at you.

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I changed my plans yesterday.

Well, BC12t is way to go for this mission and i got 1 class like 4-5 times in a row, but WG lounched EBR on premium shop and problem was - every battle 3-6 LT's.

 

I checked once again chimeras missions and I found that UNION-15 is completed without second task. Main task is to do combine 10k dmg/block/hp and secondary is to do 20% of team dmg and win. I put a calculator beside me and focused on those battles where 20% of opponent team HP was less than 5.5k and played a lot of obj260. Even met fwhaatpiraat @ airfield (nice battle was).

 

Here we go, noob shells on, superduper aggressive play style to max out DPM and thats it.

 



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View PostSchepel, on 11 October 2019 - 02:12 PM, said:

Anything you feel comfortable playing, really. Tech tree tanks are usually a very good choice, but any tank will do. It is about how you perform in them, not how everybody else performs in them. This may sound odd, but you can pick tanks with low requirements all day long, if you perform crap in them, you won't get your aces done. :-)

 

You are wrong. ACE or "M" also depends on day of the week, ongoing events, daily or weekly missions, premium shop goodies & curent meta. You know that situations when you leave some tank with 94% on barrel and after few weeks or months even after battle with absolute zero dmg/assist & you still get 3rd mark on gun.

And what you mean with low requirements? Starting from 1200 and up base exp in game? :D Just check postgame stats after every battle and you will find out that "ACE" comes for someone only 1 out of 7 battles and you have only 15 to do it  three times or now its 2 times in 19 if you resset till get first. Im not talking about tier VII miracles like E25 ot AMX 13-57 where ACE evrey 5th game by default. 



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View Post____Green____, on 14 October 2019 - 08:39 AM, said:

 

You are wrong. ACE or "M" also depends on day of the week, ongoing events, daily or weekly missions, premium shop goodies & curent meta. You know that situations when you leave some tank with 94% on barrel and after few weeks or months even after battle with absolute zero dmg/assist & you still get 3rd mark on gun.

And what you mean with low requirements? Starting from 1200 and up base exp in game? :D Just check postgame stats after every battle and you will find out that "ACE" comes for someone only 1 out of 7 battles and you have only 15 to do it  three times or now its 2 times in 19 if you resset till get first. Im not talking about tier VII miracles like E25 ot AMX 13-57 where ACE evrey 5th game by default. 

 

I know how acing tanks works. :-)

 

Low requirements: 1000 - 1100 base xp. Normal: 1100 - 1400 High requirements: 1400 - 1600 base xp. Insane requirements: 1600+ base xp.

 

Most tech trees are in the normal bracket, with some exceptions. Therefore, I believe it doesn't really matter which tank you pick, you just need to be comfortable playing it.






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