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Erwin_Von_Braun #1 Posted 15 October 2019 - 12:09 PM

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If everyone whine about aspects of the game were to be believed, the game should be unplayable.

Every one of us has elements of the game that they don't like.

 

So, it got me thinking (a very dangerous thing) about all the games I loved growing up and all the ones I love now as I'm heading rapidly towards my second childhood and there was one inescapable conclusion...


 

Every game I have ever played was, in some way, flawed - whether it be actual bugs or gameplay mechanics that were crap/frustrating etc.


 

So, with that in mind can anyone think of the perfect game?

And by perfect I mean utterly flawless.

The closest I could think of was StarCraft.


 

Thoughts?



chainreact0r #2 Posted 15 October 2019 - 12:22 PM

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The only reason why i perfect game could not exist, is because if it would be perfect from every point of view, the downside would be that it would be too short which results in a paradox.

barison1 #3 Posted 15 October 2019 - 12:24 PM

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not a single game is flawless but that can make it more fun aswell, certain small bugs that make your horse teleport away a random npc falling out the map (just the one you needed for a quest kind of things) which can be pretty entertaining

 

never played starcraft so not having clue about that but for me the most "flawless" would be witcher 3, yes it has some bugs but of all games i played i would rate it the most flawless, besides the story is simply amazing combined with gameplay



Miepie #4 Posted 15 October 2019 - 12:28 PM

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Games "from before the Euro" that I still play and enjoy:

Discworld MUD

Red Alert I & II

Age of Empires I (with the Rise of Rome expansion, mind you)

Civilization III

Heroes of Might & Magic III

the Microsoft Close Combat series

 

Playing them for 17-21 years and still enjoying them is a sign that for me, these games qualify as excellent. :great:



jabster #5 Posted 15 October 2019 - 12:30 PM

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View PostMiepie, on 15 October 2019 - 11:28 AM, said:

Games "from before the Euro" that I still play and enjoy:

Discworld MUD

Red Alert I & II

Age of Empires I (with the Rise of Rome expansion, mind you)

Civilization III

Heroes of Might & Magic III

the Microsoft Close Combat series

 

Playing them for 17-21 years and still enjoying them is a sign that for me, these games qualify as excellent. :great:


Ohhh Close Combat, I was looking forward to the reboot but so far the reviews are less than flattering.



Erwin_Von_Braun #6 Posted 15 October 2019 - 12:34 PM

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View PostMiepie, on 15 October 2019 - 11:28 AM, said:

Games "from before the Euro" that I still play and enjoy:

Discworld MUD

Red Alert I & II

Age of Empires I (with the Rise of Rome expansion, mind you)

Civilization III

Heroes of Might & Magic III

the Microsoft Close Combat series

 

Playing them for 17-21 years and still enjoying them is a sign that for me, these games qualify as excellent. :great:

Oldies are quite often the best, I still play Star Wars Supremacy after nearly 20 years!

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Ohhh Close Combat, I was looking forward to the reboot but so far the reviews are less than flattering.

:honoring:



divsmo #7 Posted 15 October 2019 - 12:48 PM

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Black on the ps2 is a game i've revisited a few times and I still play the original unreal tournament now and again. Also used to love playing hogs of war on the ps1 but probably as much for rik mayall as anything else.

jack_timber #8 Posted 15 October 2019 - 12:58 PM

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The only other game I play is Transport Tycoon, yes it was launched way back in 1994 just checked with Google.....

Well it's got trains in it.



Jethro_Grey #9 Posted 15 October 2019 - 01:15 PM

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Star Wars Knights of the old Republic

Ascendancy

Free Space 2

Legacy of Kain: Soulreaver I + II

Shining Force

Mechwarrior 3

Mechcommander Gold

Baldurs Gate 2

 

 


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Erwin_Von_Braun #10 Posted 15 October 2019 - 01:17 PM

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View Postdivsmo, on 15 October 2019 - 11:48 AM, said:

Black on the ps2 is a game i've revisited a few times and I still play the original unreal tournament now and again. Also used to love playing hogs of war on the ps1 but probably as much for rik mayall as anything else.

Oh my, I'd forgotten all about that one.

Loved it, absolutely loved it.

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View PostJethro_Grey, on 15 October 2019 - 12:15 PM, said:

Star Wars Knights of the old Republic

Ascendancy

Free Space 2

Legacy of Kain: Soulreaver I + II

Shining Force

Mechwarrior 3

Mechcommander Gold

Baldurs Gate 2

 

 

Good games these are.

Perfect though?

Not so sure.:hiding:

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View Postjack_timber, on 15 October 2019 - 11:58 AM, said:

The only other game I play is Transport Tycoon, yes it was launched way back in 1994 just checked with Google.....

Well it's got trains in it.

Games released in 1994?

MECCA Bingo?

Dear lord man, are you coal-fired or something?:trollface:



Captain_Kremen0 #11 Posted 15 October 2019 - 01:21 PM

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Half-life was pretty much flawless and wiped the floor with other shooters when It came out.

Hell, it's still worth a playback now you can stick it on yer mobile phone.



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Pac-Man.

 

Honestly when I think of "flawless" games, I inevitably tend to look back to simpler games as the simpler the less likely it is that bugs will occur or specific design decisions are disliked because there's fewer of them. However if I think about games that I enjoy more or put more time in (though I did play a lot of Pac-man in my childhood) they're inevitably more complex and prone to the occasional bug or imperfect design choice.

 

If I look purely at hours played it'd have to be Europa Universalis 4, but I already know that amongst the people who have played it there'd be huge disagreement on that. But that's the game that keeps drawing me in, that makes me go "Alright, one more campaign" every so often.



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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 15 October 2019 - 01:17 PM, said:

Oh my, I'd forgotten all about that one.

Loved it, absolutely loved it.

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Good games these are.

Perfect though?

Not so sure.:hiding:

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Games released in 1994?

MECCA Bingo?

Dear lord man, are you coal-fired or something?:trollface:


I guess it depends on what expectations one has towards a game. 

In my opinion, all of them are perfect and i forgot Homeworld, dangit. 

 

 



vonadnan #14 Posted 15 October 2019 - 01:22 PM

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View PostMiepie, on 15 October 2019 - 11:28 AM, said:

Games "from before the Euro" that I still play and enjoy:

Discworld MUD

Red Alert I & II

Age of Empires I (with the Rise of Rome expansion, mind you)

Civilization III

Heroes of Might & Magic III

the Microsoft Close Combat series

 

Playing them for 17-21 years and still enjoying them is a sign that for me, these games qualify as excellent. :great:

 

HMM III and even 5, I mean.. when did that come out? zilion years a go and I still enjoy it :) 

Starcraft is a reason I lost a year on university.. Warcraft III campaign I still remember all the chars, names and places..

And finaly WOW on Wrath of the Lich king expansion.. pvp.. God, the best days in history of bloodless fighting :) 

Forgot Quake 2 for mindless shooting , awsome!


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Flicka #15 Posted 15 October 2019 - 01:24 PM

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Sudoku.

If I even try to go to my "old games" list I would probably find a way to break them.

 

The same way people think games were much harder back in the day, and all they were was just poorly made in most cases.



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View PostCaptain_Kremen0, on 15 October 2019 - 12:21 PM, said:

Half-life was pretty much flawless and wiped the floor with other shooters when It came out.

Hell, it's still worth a playback now you can stick it on yer mobile phone.

Never played it - was always a sucker for DOOM myself ;)

View PostDorander, on 15 October 2019 - 12:21 PM, said:

Pac-Man.

 

Honestly when I think of "flawless" games, I inevitably tend to look back to simpler games as the simpler the less likely it is that bugs will occur or specific design decisions are disliked because there's fewer of them. However if I think about games that I enjoy more or put more time in (though I did play a lot of Pac-man in my childhood) they're inevitably more complex and prone to the occasional bug or imperfect design choice.

 

If I look purely at hours played it'd have to be Europa Universalis 4, but I already know that amongst the people who have played it there'd be huge disagreement on that. But that's the game that keeps drawing me in, that makes me go "Alright, one more campaign" every so often.

Pac-Man!

Ladies & gentlemen, we have a winner.

Frikking loved that game on this old beast...........


 


 



UserZer00 #17 Posted 15 October 2019 - 01:26 PM

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Cosmic Balance
Ultima (not online)
Wizardry
Command and Conquer
Warcraft (not World of....
Total Annihilation
Wasteland
Baldur's gate
Diablo
Counterstrike
Team Fortress......

But mostly because they were 1st or close to the 1st of their kind rather than perfect

Erwin_Von_Braun #18 Posted 15 October 2019 - 01:27 PM

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View PostJethro_Grey, on 15 October 2019 - 12:21 PM, said:


I guess it depends on what expectations one has towards a game.

In my opinion, all of them are perfect and i forgot Homeworld, dangit.

 

 

Indeed - expectations quite often exceed the grim, meat-hook reality of how bad some games actually are.


 



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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 15 October 2019 - 12:25 PM, said:

Never played it - was always a sucker for DOOM myself ;)

 

You will be glad to know that Doom and all its subsidiary goodness is also freely available on your trusty smartfone for ....erm.....free.

 
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View PostUserZer00, on 15 October 2019 - 12:26 PM, said:

Cosmic Balance
Ultima (not online)
Wizardry
Command and Conquer
Warcraft (not World of....
Total Annihilation
Wasteland
Baldur's gate
Diablo
Counterstrike
Team Fortress......

But mostly because they were 1st or close to the 1st of their kind rather than perfect

Lordy Id forgot about TA.



Erwin_Von_Braun #20 Posted 15 October 2019 - 01:29 PM

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View PostUserZer00, on 15 October 2019 - 12:26 PM, said:

Cosmic Balance
Ultima (not online)
Wizardry
Command and Conquer
Warcraft (not World of....
Total Annihilation
Wasteland
Baldur's gate
Diablo
Counterstrike
Team Fortress......

But mostly because they were 1st or close to the 1st of their kind rather than perfect

Thinking about it - have there been ANY advances in gameplay over the last 20 years?

Most games are just variations on a theme and, tbh, I'm struggling to think of the last time I was presented with something new.

 

Edit: Flatmate just reminded me about a game called Getting Over it - a truly unique game as far as I can tell.


 

Anyone not familiar with it:


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