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efesbeer #1 Posted 16 October 2019 - 02:00 PM

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How many of you guys think that this op tanks are ruining gameplay?



Dava_117 #2 Posted 16 October 2019 - 02:04 PM

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Not me for sure. I like those little fast buggers spotting high cammo TDs and artys. They make active players life easier and punish campers.

krismorgan #3 Posted 16 October 2019 - 02:09 PM

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yup,personally cant stand them,just another thing to pi55 me off in world of turds.

Homer_J #4 Posted 16 October 2019 - 02:10 PM

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View Postefesbeer, on 16 October 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:

How many of you guys think that this op tanks are ruining gameplay?

 

Not many judging by the previous threads on the subject.



BQBD #5 Posted 16 October 2019 - 02:23 PM

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Not me.

 

They do not ruin gameplay.

 

They disrupt the previously established gameplay, forcing people to learn and adapt.



Warzey #6 Posted 16 October 2019 - 02:34 PM

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I love them for their ability to dig out campers from stupid OP positions that are becoming more common these days. WG is like here's this position in the corner of the map with hard cover and double bush to overlook both sides and also enemies need to cross 200m of open ground to get you. 

 

View Postefesbeer, on 16 October 2019 - 01:00 PM, said:

How many of you guys think that this op tanks are ruining gameplay?

 

How about you go grind through whole EBR 105 line and then come back here and tell us how wrong you were. And no playing 10 battles on your friends account doesn't count. 



etody77 #7 Posted 16 October 2019 - 02:41 PM

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Maybe the game should be renamed ''World of Armour''

And have all cars inside

And....German tracked armoured AA guns :))

I'd like to have Wirbelwind and Östwind to hunt cars with them :)

Cars are WG solution for professional campers hunting

Istead of nerfing or removing them, give them o solution to fight them



Warzey #8 Posted 16 October 2019 - 02:53 PM

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View Postetody77, on 16 October 2019 - 01:41 PM, said:

Maybe the game should be renamed ''World of Armour''

And have all cars inside

And....German tracked armoured AA guns :))

I'd like to have Wirbelwind and Östwind to hunt cars with them :)

Cars are WG solution for professional campers hunting

Istead of nerfing or removing them, give them o solution to fight them

 

Allow me to enlighten you. We'r going to talk about high tier cars because lower tier ones are trash. You take any medium with APCR as standard ammo or any +T8 Swedish TD and boom cars are countered. Of course even with those tanks it can be difficult to hit cars at extreme ranges and uneven terrain, but at ~350m or so it shouldn't be difficult to hit them.



Balc0ra #9 Posted 16 October 2019 - 03:01 PM

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View Postefesbeer, on 16 October 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:

How many of you guys think that this op tanks are ruining gameplay?

 

Maybe elaborate more. Why do you think they are OP. And what would you like to nerf? As I don't find them OP. But situational strong I guess is a good word for it. But in general? They can be annoying, but I would not say OP. They are great bully tanks, but still situational, and don't always work as you see them work constantly when you drive one.

 

The issue most have with them is the critical hits more so than the speed. But that's because there is hardly any armor to hit behind most of the wheels if your shots go low or wide in front. Others want the speed reduced. But then they would have to gain view range. And then you have a slower light that can bully you from afar on his own spotting... like every light.

 

Personally, the only thing I want to be fixed on them... Is wheel assist. As in if we wreck a wheel, we should get damage assist for it. Adding 25% pr wheel.

 

 



NUKLEAR_SLUG #10 Posted 16 October 2019 - 03:06 PM

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View Postefesbeer, on 16 October 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:

How many of you guys think that this op tanks are ruining gameplay?

 

Nope. 



shikaka9 #11 Posted 16 October 2019 - 03:13 PM

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Almost no one, .. 1 person per week ... and that person leaves the note in forums usually

etody77 #12 Posted 16 October 2019 - 03:13 PM

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View PostWarzey, on 16 October 2019 - 02:53 PM, said:

 

Allow me to enlighten you. We'r going to talk about high tier cars because lower tier ones are trash. You take any medium with APCR as standard ammo or any +T8 Swedish TD and boom cars are countered. Of course even with those tanks it can be difficult to hit cars at extreme ranges and uneven terrain, but at ~350m or so it shouldn't be difficult to hit them.

Dont tell me. Thats the reason i didint bought tier 10 car



wsatnutter #13 Posted 16 October 2019 - 03:15 PM

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No there ok 

Oldewolfe #14 Posted 16 October 2019 - 04:57 PM

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Just wait until the Brit's Arrive, In Development I hear as we Speak....      I suspect Germans after that myself...       

 

This'll be Real Fun, I can't wait....      Liking my French Armored Cars...    



lnfernaI #15 Posted 16 October 2019 - 05:04 PM

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there needs to be a special thread for WVs much like SPGs, so that these threads could be insta-locked.

 

I mean, I would do that, granted I was a mod.



ValkyrionX #16 Posted 16 October 2019 - 05:23 PM

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I was a supporter of the introduction of WVs among WoT vehicles when ebr75 was leased to me for rent a month before it was included in the game

To date I have to say that my opinion has changed a lot.

 

I find these vehicles absolutely negative for the game, and not only in random battles or in FL mode, but also in clan activities [cw /skirmish /adv] in general and at every level.

 

The WG should also understand that not all WoT players are able to shot at short, medium and long distances to normal vehicles, let alone faster and more agile vehicles.

 

Another mechanic that I find toxic is the autoaim "improved" for these vehicles that often allows you to hit shots that probably targeted in the manual would be missed shots or ricochet.

Even the camo is really excessive.

 

Personally I would see them better as slower and more manoeuvrable vehicles than now , with spòot range similar to light tankss of the same level and with penetration levels and dpm similar to light counterparts with tracks.

At present I do not see a concrete reason for the presence of these vehicles in the game.

In my opinion these vehicles on paper , and in fact  , are not at all "op", but in general they are not useful to the game ecosystem given their mechanics.

I obviously think the same thing about artys , Italian nonsense auto-reloader tanks and future Russian double-barrel vehicles.

 

 

However, having a thread on this problem every day is become predictable.

 



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View PostValkyrionX, on 16 October 2019 - 06:23 PM, said:

 

The WG should also understand that not all WoT players are able to shot at short, medium and long distances to normal vehicles, let alone faster and more agile vehicles.

 

 

Hardly a fault of WG. This is merely a concept of the Theory of Evolution. Noobs will either adapt or be forgotten, unicums will roll.

Which means, no matter how much s**t the world throws at you, you live on to get used with the environment. Or not.



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View PostlnfernaI, on 16 October 2019 - 05:27 PM, said:

Hardly a fault of WG. This is merely a concept of the Theory of Evolution. Noobs will either adapt or be forgotten, unicums will roll.

Which means, no matter how much s**t the world throws at you, you live on to get used with the environment. Or not.

 

in fact the wot ecosystem is emptying  , obviously there are multiple reason and to point out the WVs would be ridiculous , but all put in the cauldron is part of the soup.

 

these vehicles are toxic in my opinion, such as obj279, chieftain, progetto46 and many other useless vehicles.

 

Now we look forward to Russian double-barrel vehicles and in future other WVs..as British WVs , German and, why not, also Italians.

 

 

 



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View PostValkyrionX, on 16 October 2019 - 05:37 PM, said:

 

in fact the wot ecosystem is emptying  , obviously there are multiple reason and to point out the WVs would be ridiculous , but all put in the cauldron is part of the soup.

 

these vehicles are toxic in my opinion, such as obj279, chieftain, progetto46 and many other useless vehicles.

 

Now we look forward to Russian double-barrel vehicles and in future other WVs..as British WVs , German and, why not, also Italians.

 

 

 

 

Of course, as we do not want the game to stagnate. We want it to go forward and evolve. As with any evolution there are dead ends, but you can always replace them with something else in game.

 

Worse thing for any game or any thing is to stagnate and stay the same.



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View PostBQBD, on 16 October 2019 - 05:54 PM, said:

 

Of course, as we do not want the game to stagnate. We want it to go forward and evolve. As with any evolution there are dead ends, but you can always replace them with something else in game.

 

Worse thing for any game or any thing is to stagnate and stay the same.

 

no one is against evolution and changes , but looking at the changes made in the past and some of the current problems it seems to me that the problems are added one after the other






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