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Dava_117 #21 Posted 17 October 2019 - 06:41 PM

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View PostDorander, on 17 October 2019 - 06:10 PM, said:

 

"10 caliber rule"?

 

The 10 caliber rules apply to AP and APCR shell. 

When a shell hit penetrating a spaced armour, external module or primary armour, the shell keep flying for 10 times its caliber before vanishing. 

This rule works inside the tank too, and is the base of internal damage and absorbing shells with track.



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View PostDava_117, on 17 October 2019 - 05:41 PM, said:

 

The 10 caliber rules apply to AP and APCR shell. 

When a shell hit penetrating a spaced armour, external module or primary armour, the shell keep flying for 10 times its caliber before vanishing. 

This rule works inside the tank too, and is the base of internal damage and absorbing shells with track.

 

Ahh, that, yeah thanks, I didn't know what you were referring to. I've never called that the "10 caliber rule", in fact, I've never called it anything at all :)



SuperOlsson #23 Posted 18 October 2019 - 01:40 PM

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The gun module is also located inside the turret, you know. Such as the breech where the loader puts in the shell, the "gun" is not just a barrel that ends on the gun mantlet. And a shell can bounce around and hit both your gunner and cannon, nothing strange really.

 

Google "tank gun breech" and look at images if you don't know what i mean :P

 


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View PostDava_117, on 17 October 2019 - 11:21 AM, said:

 

Theoretically, a hit on the top of the gun should be absorbed by the gun itself due to the 10 caliber rule.

The problem is that hit decals are not completely accurate because based on the server client connection. Sometime you may have small desynchronizations that lead to erroneous representations. Likely, the shell hit a bit higher or to the right, and penetrated your turret. Or the shell came in at a different angle, meaning it hit the gun closer to the mantlet. 

 

A suggestion for next time. If you press the Print Screen button on your keyboard, the game will save a screenshot in the game folder called "screenshots". This is usually better, quality wise, than a photo taken with phone. :)

 

Its not desync, its a hitbox bug in some tanks,specially the ones with muzzle break.

 

Other tanks have hitbox problems in other places, some have it in the tip of the cannon. It has been here since patch 1.0

 

Unless you get hit on those bugged hitboxes twice by the same tank, I would say its not game breaking, although it makes some tanks very annoying to play.

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View PostFalathi, on 17 October 2019 - 02:18 PM, said:

Please, remember: always, when you have doubts regarding the game and experience a situation that looks dubious the best way to discuss it is to share a replay, or - at the very least - some screens. 

The description alone is simply not enough to check what exactly happened and how. 

Thank you!

 

 Not to insult or be disrespectfull, but when did WG started to listen to what we say or report?



Homer_J #25 Posted 18 October 2019 - 04:17 PM

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View Postmitrolo_, on 17 October 2019 - 02:02 AM, said:

Hello fellas,

 

Couple of times this happend to me so I just want to check is this weak point on all tanks or a bug or whatever. This time Type5Heavy penetrated Patton IX ( ME), KILLED gunner and Destroyed cannon plus Dmg cca 550.Thanks for the informations. Cheers

If it happened then it is both possible and legal.

 

View PostDava_117, on 17 October 2019 - 06:41 PM, said:

 

The 10 caliber rules apply to AP and APCR shell. 

When a shell hit penetrating a spaced armour, external module or primary armour, the shell keep flying for 10 times its caliber before vanishing. 

This rule works inside the tank too, and is the base of internal damage and absorbing shells with track.

If it has already penetrated the tank when it hits the gun module then it will do hitpoints damage to the tank.



Dava_117 #26 Posted 18 October 2019 - 05:14 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 18 October 2019 - 04:17 PM, said:

If it has already penetrated the tank when it hits the gun module then it will do hitpoints damage to the tank.

 

In fact it penetrated the gun before the armour. You can penetrate external module or spaced armour too. But this doesn't mean you will penetrate primary armour too.



Homer_J #27 Posted 18 October 2019 - 08:31 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 18 October 2019 - 05:14 PM, said:

 

In fact it penetrated the gun before the armour. You can penetrate external module or spaced armour too. But this doesn't mean you will penetrate primary armour too.


In fact we have no information from which to make that deduction.



Dava_117 #28 Posted 19 October 2019 - 09:44 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 18 October 2019 - 08:31 PM, said:


In fact we have no information from which to make that deduction.

 

I would say we have enought information to say it's quite a likely hypothesis.







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