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Bullwerine #1 Posted 17 October 2019 - 03:39 PM

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Also gonna love...

 

- STA 2

- Mutz

- Ravioli

- STG

 

Did recent buffs made STA 2 And Mutz Worth getting?

 

I really like 320 alpha of Lansen C, and ive red good things about Raviolis gun, but is that tank too slow for someone who likes to go places pretty fast?

 

Oh, almost forget to ask when might a next tank trade in take place?

 

Thanx!

 



Ceeb #2 Posted 17 October 2019 - 03:41 PM

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I havent played the Lancen, but

 

- STA 2  - really good post buff. Good tank

- Mutz - Never played it - not a good reputation as good tank.

- Ravioli - really good, great shell velocity, paper tank.  great credit maker.

- STG - Never played it.



Negativvv #3 Posted 17 October 2019 - 04:27 PM

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STG is meh,inferior to Revo as it has slower shells. Seems to have decent camo however. STG also has rubbish gun depression unlike Revo Ridge line fighter. 

 

Revo soft gun stats feel damn good and it's shells are like lighting bolts.

 

 



Stevies_Team #4 Posted 17 October 2019 - 05:02 PM

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STG very situational, loooong reload

 

Instead of mutz try tech tree German Indien, good gun + mobile

 

STA2 is ok tonk, good mobility + ok gun


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XxKuzkina_MatxX #5 Posted 17 October 2019 - 06:12 PM

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The closest to Lansen's play style is the Mutz although the alpha is much lower. The Mutz is more accurate and got more pen on both shells, it's the better sniper hands down. Both are good but i won't buy both as one of them does the job.

 

Statistically (win rate) Lansen is the best of those followed by the STG/Guard but they are very different. The STG is more like a medium/TD hybrid with the same pen levels as Lansen. It got better alpha and surprisingly very accurate for a Soviet medium with a 122mm gun.

 

The STA is better after the recent buffs but still a very average performer. It got very good gold pen and nice gun depression but its position didn't change much.

 

The Revalorisé is in my opinion the weakest of the bunch currently. It's a big, soft and slow target with below average penetration. There are tanks with PMM that have the same pen. Sniping with 200mm APCR is pretty bad and if i want to do that, i'll get a Skorpion with much better pen and more or less the same mobility. For a specific power of 28.39 hp/ton on Lansen which is great, the Rev got 15.71 hp/ton.



Negativvv #6 Posted 17 October 2019 - 06:27 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 17 October 2019 - 06:12 PM, said:

 

The Revalorisé is in my opinion the weakest of the bunch currently. It's a big, soft and slow target with below average penetration. There are tanks with PMM that have the same pen. Sniping with 200mm APCR is pretty bad and if i want to do that, i'll get a Skorpion with much better pen and more or less the same mobility. For a specific power of 28.39 hp/ton on Lansen which is great, the Rev got 15.71 hp/ton.

 

Revo is all about the gun's handling and shell velocity. 10 degrees of depression isn't bad either but yeah everything else is trash, the Sherman hull, the p/w ratio and the pen on the APCR is very meh. Haven't dipped into the HEAT much,I mostly spam APCR...



XxKuzkina_MatxX #7 Posted 17 October 2019 - 06:35 PM

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View PostNegativvv, on 17 October 2019 - 09:27 PM, said:

Revo is all about the gun's handling and shell velocity. 10 degrees of depression isn't bad either but yeah everything else is trash, the Sherman hull, the p/w ratio and the pen on the APCR is very meh. Haven't dipped into the HEAT much,I mostly spam APCR...

 

And all of that become visible when you look at its performance.



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View PostBullwerine, on 17 October 2019 - 03:39 PM, said:

- STA 2     In my opinion it is not worth getting, for a mostly paper armor tank the gun isn't that good, the Lancen at least gets 300 damage to compensate for it's "derpiness"

- Mutz       No armor, not good gun handling and inability to snap a shot semi-reliably, IMHO don't buy

- Ravioli  This one, although slow, has good alpha of 390 with cheap shells, very nice gun handling for the alpha, pretty much the best out of all these 4 you listed, so it can grind credits, although it mostly works as a long ranger TD rather than a medium

- STG       Haven't played for a long time, it's still mediocre, turret armor is not really reliable, but the alpha is big, still somewhat at TD/Medium hybrid

 

 

 


Edited by vasilinhorulezz, 17 October 2019 - 06:40 PM.


Negativvv #9 Posted 17 October 2019 - 08:17 PM

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I might as well say it but the Skorpion G should be counted amongst this crowd.

 

Yes it needs full aim or else it derps and it's gun depression is all over the place but that pen and alpha. 

 

And maybe even that Rashan TD thing but I refuse to buy it :hiding:



xx984 #10 Posted 18 October 2019 - 08:46 AM

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Lansen can’t really be compared to any of the tanks I C In the list.

 

Sta2 and mutz are fun though, Rev and stg not so much but that’s me personally. Sta can be gotten with very little effort in FL



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I like my Mutz; it does pretty well in Frontlines, snapshotting and ridgeline sniping and racing around. Keep your distance from enemies, though. It has no armour, and the low alpha does not impress anyone so people will often try to rush you.

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View PostMiepie, on 18 October 2019 - 08:54 AM, said:

I like my Mutz; it does pretty well in Frontlines, snapshotting and ridgeline sniping and racing around. Keep your distance from enemies, though. It has no armour, and the low alpha does not impress anyone so people will often try to rush you.

 

I treat my M41D the same way.


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Negativvv #13 Posted 18 October 2019 - 10:26 AM

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View PostCeeb, on 18 October 2019 - 10:06 AM, said:

 

I treat my M41D the same way.

Meh I feel bad I missed the China Dog in the Festival. I really liked the regular T8 US tech tree version and M41D is basically better.

 

It can run away more effectively than a Mutz as it's way faster.

 



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STG and Ravioli are excellent tanks if you know how to play support meds. 

Both of them are 2ND line Meds at the start but can definately shine in mid to end game!

 

Also Ravioli has a really good standard shell, that APCR goes FAST!


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Tilly042 #15 Posted 18 October 2019 - 10:34 AM

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I have the STA-2 and have no regrets at all.  The Mutz I didn't get on with for some reason and finally sold it but don't have the other 2.

 

I'm not grinding anything on the Jap med line but still enjoy the STA if that helps.

 



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View PostNegativvv, on 18 October 2019 - 09:26 AM, said:

Meh I feel bad I missed the China Dog in the Festival. I really liked the regular T8 US tech tree version and M41D is basically better.

 

It can run away more effectively than a Mutz as it's way faster.

 

 

I rarely play the Chinese Dog in randoms, but in Frontlines... it shines,   I'd prefer the German one but I'm struggling buying anything from WG for months

 

Its Gun is Meh, its rate of fire is exellent. Its got got me Major rank many times.

 



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View Postxx984, on 18 October 2019 - 07:46 AM, said:

Lansen can’t really be compared to any of the tanks I C In the list.

 

 

this.

 

Sta-2 is better then mutz but both of them shoot with peanuts. Nothing to compare with that 320 alpha on Lancen.

 

M4 is brilliant, it is quite slow/slugish second line tank with few very good things like alpha and shell velocity so it depends how do you play Lancen. If you use it like second line support tank then M4 might work for you too. Personally i consider m4 as one of the best t8 prems and it worked better for me (also didnt play much Lancen so far).

 

STG is hardest to play from all 4. It has quite good gun but thats it. No gun dep, turret on back of hull and same time almost no armor even mobility is average.. In general this tank is only for collecting or 3 marking challenge.



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I have every of those tanks except the Ravioli. I guess it sometimes depends on play styles.

 

The Mutz is currently my most played tank in the game because I just love it. I loved it before the buff and now it's even better. But I don't think that many people share this opinion.
In my STA-2 I had some really good games in as well. I think it's a pretty well balanced premium tank and a good crew trainer.
STG - Very different tank. Not the best sniper, but the flat silouhette and the high alpha are awesome. Can bounce a couple shots and trade very well, also like this one.



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So after few beers yesterday i decided to go for Centurion 5/1 RAAC, and after 5 minutes i remembered why im havent been playing tier 8 peashooters for a while. Almost ragesold it after 4th game lowrolls. Out of 9 pens, 7 did way less than 200 dmg. 230 alpha aint that hot to begin sitten, so constant lowrolls made playing pretty frustrating. I Will give Cent another try sometimes later, but not very soon.

 

Considering my 1st Post, i still got godawfull Panther 88 waiting for next tank trade in, but all peashooters are out, so its between STG and Ravioli now. Both seem very interesting in their own way. 

 

And thanx to all for making effort to write in this post. :)



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View PostBullwerine, on 19 October 2019 - 09:25 AM, said:

So after few beers yesterday i decided to go for Centurion 5/1 RAAC, and after 5 minutes i remembered why im havent been playing tier 8 peashooters for a while. Almost ragesold it after 4th game lowrolls. Out of 9 pens, 7 did way less than 200 dmg. 230 alpha aint that hot to begin sitten, so constant lowrolls made playing pretty frustrating. I Will give Cent another try sometimes later, but not very soon.

 

Considering my 1st Post, i still got godawfull Panther 88 waiting for next tank trade in, but all peashooters are out, so its between STG and Ravioli now. Both seem very interesting in their own way. 

 

And thanx to all for making effort to write in this post. :)

Out of Revo and STG, go Revo.

 

It is more flexible and you will enjoy the lighting rod APCR as standard. The platform is more versatile too, better gun depression and it isn't a huge fat rear turret slab of meat. STG is ok but it's not a tank that does it's role the best.







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