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ziratulbihac #1 Posted 17 October 2019 - 09:09 PM

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What is the point of having O-I, KV-2 and other derp tanks when you have practically KILLED the Derp concept. 

 

What now?  Give KV-2 what? Long barreled AP gun? Do they really think anyone would play that trash than? 

 

These changes are utterly disgusting... 

 

"New players are crying because Derp guns one shot them...  kmeeeee" ... SO WHAT?  It was part of the game, to avoid DERP tanks, to flank them.. to THINK HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM!!!


No.. 

 

Let's make this game completely IDIOT PROOF! 

 

Or...

 

"We are hull down and we are spammed by HE kmeeee".... Already Invulnerable people are crying because 3 tanks can kill them with HE's... I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

 

Instead of dealing with MM and Gold Spammers... they want to deal with HE shells which are completely OK. 



Echotun #2 Posted 17 October 2019 - 09:13 PM

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Sandbox. Its there for a reason. Go test and send feedback to the correct place. 

cro001 #3 Posted 17 October 2019 - 09:49 PM

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Well, I have no problem with JPN HT line dying in fire to be honest with you.

psychobear #4 Posted 17 October 2019 - 10:00 PM

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While the artillery scumbags are getting a huge undeserved indirect buff... just.. FU WG!!!

Balc0ra #5 Posted 17 October 2019 - 10:11 PM

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Again... Sandbox, not CT. As in far from final. Arty neft tests started with low alpha and 1 mm HE pen. Not like they are now. So lets wait and see what feedback they get on the changes and what direction they take later before we panic about all the 107mm KV-2 we will see. 

Erwin_Von_Braun #6 Posted 17 October 2019 - 10:13 PM

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View Postpsychobear, on 17 October 2019 - 09:00 PM, said:

While the artillery scumbags are getting a huge undeserved indirect buff... just.. FU WG!!!

Buff?

How so?



HaZardeur #7 Posted 17 October 2019 - 10:17 PM

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Reeeeeeeeee

Dramakid19 #8 Posted 17 October 2019 - 10:17 PM

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Are people in Wg getting dumber?

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View Postziratulbihac, on 17 October 2019 - 09:09 PM, said:

 

. SO WHAT?  It was part of the game, to avoid DERP tanks, to flank them.. to THINK HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM!!!

 

So, when others have trouble with your derp guns you don't care and suggest that they should adapt to the situation.

 

How about you heed your own advice?

 

Usually I don't use capslock but to emphasize that this is basically your own words you threw at others: THINK HOW TO DEAL WITH THE HE CHANGE!!!



Badkarma1313 #10 Posted 17 October 2019 - 11:41 PM

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View Postziratulbihac, on 17 October 2019 - 09:09 PM, said:

What is the point of having O-I, KV-2 and other derp tanks when you have practically KILLED the Derp concept. 

 

What now?  Give KV-2 what? Long barreled AP gun? Do they really think anyone would play that trash than? 

 

These changes are utterly disgusting... 

 

"New players are crying because Derp guns one shot them...  kmeeeee" ... SO WHAT?  It was part of the game, to avoid DERP tanks, to flank them.. to THINK HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM!!!


No.. 

 

Let's make this game completely IDIOT PROOF! 

 

Or...

 

"We are hull down and we are spammed by HE kmeeee".... Already Invulnerable people are crying because 3 tanks can kill them with HE's... I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

 

Instead of dealing with MM and Gold Spammers... they want to deal with HE shells which are completely OK. 

Now we just need to make the forums "idiot proof", you know, to keep certain people away...



ThorgrimBrenadim #11 Posted 18 October 2019 - 01:49 AM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 17 October 2019 - 10:13 PM, said:

Buff?

How so?

 

They where talking about increasing HP so if that happens obviously SPG's will also have to have their HP increased to keep in balance with the actual tanks in this game. So potentially an arty that was a one shot with HE may now be a two shot. So on that point it is in a way an arty buff.

 

As they are not talking about HESH or SPG rounds at present then they will still deal potentially more damage, a slow heavy on low health could have taken say one hit from an arty with the possibly of a chance to be on under 100 health after the shot but killed that arty  in one shot with HE now it will be reversed the arty can take a hit and destroy the heavy with one shot, potentially, but def with two and some arty can reload pretty quick.


Edited by ThorgrimBrenadim, 18 October 2019 - 01:52 AM.


undutchable80 #12 Posted 18 October 2019 - 06:57 AM

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View Postpsychobear, on 17 October 2019 - 10:00 PM, said:

While the artillery scumbags are getting a huge undeserved indirect buff... just.. FU WG!!!

Yes, all paper targets (including LTs, TDs and SPGs etc) that you would normally engage using HE will most likely not be one-shottable anymore. 

 

Having said that. Just to be sure ppl know: the SPG (HE) and HESH rebalance will take place, but only if and after the current HE rebalance proves succesfull. And none of the changes will go live separately; once ALL shells have been rebalanced, only then will the rebalance of all ammo types go live in one update.



TankkiPoju #13 Posted 18 October 2019 - 10:37 AM

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Just use the normal AP gun O-I... its way better anyway.

Edited by TankkiPoju, 18 October 2019 - 10:37 AM.


Evilier_than_Skeletor #14 Posted 18 October 2019 - 10:50 AM

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View Postziratulbihac, on 17 October 2019 - 09:09 PM, said:

 

"New players are crying because Derp guns one shot them...  kmeeeee" ... SO WHAT?  It was part of the game, to avoid DERP tanks, to flank them.. to THINK HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM!!!


No.. 

 

Let's make this game completely IDIOT PROOF!

Idiot proof...like having a gun that can be fired in the general direction of the enemy and do guaranteed damage?

 

It might be difficult to find people, who think getting derped is an important part of new players learning the game.. Because it's not.



Homer_J #15 Posted 18 October 2019 - 11:26 AM

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View Postziratulbihac, on 17 October 2019 - 09:09 PM, said:

What is the point of having O-I, KV-2 and other derp tanks when you have practically KILLED the Derp concept. 

 

Most of the changes are good.  It's a big buff to small calibre HE if you know where to shoot.

 

It's very bad for derps.

 

But it's early stages of testing so go test.  The premium ammo changes went through a few changes during testing so there is hope yet.



Hoxter #16 Posted 18 October 2019 - 11:30 AM

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If this happens I'm gone!

Will be the last straw for me.



NoobySkooby #17 Posted 18 October 2019 - 11:35 AM

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View Postziratulbihac, on 17 October 2019 - 09:09 PM, said:

What is the point of having O-I, KV-2 and other derp tanks when you have practically KILLED the Derp concept. 

 

What now?  Give KV-2 what? Long barreled AP gun? Do they really think anyone would play that trash than? 

 

These changes are utterly disgusting... 

 

"New players are crying because Derp guns one shot them...  kmeeeee" ... SO WHAT?  It was part of the game, to avoid DERP tanks, to flank them.. to THINK HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM!!!


No.. 

 

Let's make this game completely IDIOT PROOF! 

 

Or...

 

"We are hull down and we are spammed by HE kmeeee".... Already Invulnerable people are crying because 3 tanks can kill them with HE's... I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

 

Instead of dealing with MM and Gold Spammers... they want to deal with HE shells which are completely OK. 

Why the anger and surprise, isn't it to be expected form a robbing bunch of [edited]holes,jesus christ, they are more morally corrupt than Trump or the Tories,who would have though that even possible,let s nef HE, and then sell the one main tank where it's sole-purpose,is HE derp,serious,you can find more intelligent life form in a Zoo.

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View PostHoxter, on 18 October 2019 - 11:30 AM, said:

If this happens I'm gone!

Will be the last straw for me.

You and many others, and you know it will happen, they have the intent and the will,then on top of that they are introducing fairytale twin gunned tanks,canyoutellme evenjust one positive direction this company is going in?

 

Just one?



tajj7 #18 Posted 18 October 2019 - 11:51 AM

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Got to laugh at the irony of bemoaning the nerfs to derp guns and then claiming this is making the game mod idiot proof.

 

Derp guns are noob tubes, literally there for bad players to basically click, not aim, and do damage. 

 

Making HE and in particular high calibre derp guns do less damage is the exact opposite of making the game more idiot proof, its making it more skill based. 



Krazy_Kalle #19 Posted 18 October 2019 - 12:01 PM

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My humble Opinion: HE shells should do less damage when not penetrating. I don't have a problem with getting one shotted (I mean I have, but I get over it quick). But what really bothers me is when I have a great position to use my armor and are able to hold back multiple enemies and they just start spamming HE and slowly tear me down. I mean it would be fine if a shell does some damage and even module damage. But come one, 300+ damage without even penetrating? That's bonkers.

xtrem3x #20 Posted 18 October 2019 - 12:04 PM

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The 0 penetration will make it less fun playing the KV-2 and T49... You play them for the LOLs of the odd pen, it's not fun just splashing people with HE :(

 

I have the premium KV-2, hopefully they won't be able to amend the penetration on it because it's premium, a bit like the LEFH arty and it's AP/HEAT rounds


Edited by xtrem3x, 18 October 2019 - 12:05 PM.





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