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lamaso79 #1 Posted 24 October 2019 - 04:50 PM

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Is the upcoming obj 730II double gun will be in tech tree or premium shop

vasilinhorulezz #2 Posted 24 October 2019 - 04:52 PM

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It will be a tier VIII premium, and 3 tech tree tanks, starting from KV-3 > tier VIII, IX and X.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #3 Posted 24 October 2019 - 04:59 PM

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The Object 703 II is a premium with a dual 122mm guns. You can check its initial stats here.

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lamaso79 #4 Posted 24 October 2019 - 05:51 PM

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Thx for replay

Balc0ra #5 Posted 24 October 2019 - 06:10 PM

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Tho that said, atm there is also a 730 II (100mm) currently running about the RU server still. And the only one with a replay out. So is WG sure they want 122 on it yet?

TheJumpMaster #6 Posted 25 October 2019 - 07:37 PM

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Any ideas as to when it might hit the European battlefield?

splash_time #7 Posted 25 October 2019 - 08:28 PM

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In one sentence, would the double barreled tanks worth the grinding?  Considering everything,  DPM, accuracy, speed and etc.

(I'm asking because the UFP of ST-II is only 150, thicker than IS 4's armour by 10 mm, I believe that this tank is going to be forgotten like what IS 4 is now.)


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XxKuzkina_MatxX #8 Posted 26 October 2019 - 04:26 AM

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View Postsplash_time, on 25 October 2019 - 11:28 PM, said:

In one sentence, would the double barreled tanks worth the grinding?  Considering everything,  DPM, accuracy, speed and etc.

(I'm asking because the UFP of ST-II is only 150, thicker than IS 4's armour by 10 mm, I believe that this tank is going to be forgotten like what IS 4 is now.)

 

In one sentence: I hedge my bets, there will be at least one of the 3 new tanks that's a keeper based on the real battle performance and regardless of the paper stats. :)

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View PostTheJumpMaster, on 25 October 2019 - 10:37 PM, said:

Any ideas as to when it might hit the European battlefield?

 

Next patch probably so around Christmas.


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4nt #9 Posted 26 October 2019 - 10:28 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 26 October 2019 - 04:26 AM, said:

 

In one sentence: I hedge my bets, there will be at least one of the 3 new tanks that's a keeper based on the real battle performance and regardless of the paper stats. :)

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Next patch probably so around Christmas.

So... Potential lootbox premium then?



splash_time #10 Posted 26 October 2019 - 10:35 AM

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View Post4nt, on 26 October 2019 - 12:58 PM, said:

So... Potential lootbox premium then?

 

Probably, right on time.

And I think the ammo rebalance update will follow it to live servers right after Christmas. 



ChristOfTheAbyss #11 Posted 26 October 2019 - 10:37 AM

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View Postsplash_time, on 26 October 2019 - 10:35 AM, said:

 

Probably, right on time.

And I think the ammo rebalance update will follow it to live servers right after Christmas. 

 

Cant be after christmass, they promised all those changes to be done this year. WG cant be lying, can they?



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270 pen prammo on a double barreled shotgun lol

splash_time #13 Posted 26 October 2019 - 10:42 AM

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View PostChristOfTheAbyss, on 26 October 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

 

Cant be after christmass, they promised all those changes to be done this year. WG cant be lying, can they?

 

No they can't, and I said "I think". 

Because they have a lot of programs and events that are left already. 

And maybe you're right , so we'll wait  for December as you said.

 

Edit: Also notice that they promised to fix/buff E 100 and IS 4 as well, but they didn't because of prem rebalance! So who knows. :harp:


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XxKuzkina_MatxX #14 Posted 26 October 2019 - 10:43 AM

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View Post4nt, on 26 October 2019 - 01:28 PM, said:

So... Potential lootbox premium then?

 

Not idea about that, sorry.



ChristOfTheAbyss #15 Posted 26 October 2019 - 10:45 AM

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View Postsplash_time, on 26 October 2019 - 10:42 AM, said:

 

No they can't, and I said "I think". 

Because they have a lot of programs and events that are left already. 

And maybe you're right , so we'll wait  for December as you said.

 

Was sarcasm. WG is known for lies.



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View PostChristOfTheAbyss, on 26 October 2019 - 10:45 AM, said:

 

Was sarcasm. WG is known for lies.

At this point I am slightly less displeased that wg is taking time to actually test stuff rather than throwing crapat the wall and seeing if it sticks. The porposed changes have been all around stupid after peeling the layer of seemingly good, and latest isn't even well thought out at the core.

 

WG has big problem in tackling the big problem in bite-sized chunks instead of making adjustments on all fronts, be it considerable advantage on premmo use, need to use premmo, and HE mechanics. Saying that armor won't see any changes (repeatedly when asked) gives impression that there's no problem with fact that heavily armored tanks are strongest in current meta. And trying to do something about non-existing problem of HE (HESH is different story), by eliminating use of armor as a factor against HE- no longer 0 damage hits if sandbox is anything to go by- is just complicating the core problem.

 

Tldr yea they might have pulled a fast one there, but at least they attempt to give impression they are listening to feedback.



ChristOfTheAbyss #17 Posted 26 October 2019 - 11:02 AM

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View Post4nt, on 26 October 2019 - 10:59 AM, said:

At this point I am slightly less displeased that wg is taking time to actually test stuff rather than throwing crapat the wall and seeing if it sticks. The porposed changes have been all around stupid after peeling the layer of seemingly good, and latest isn't even well thought out at the core.

 

WG has big problem in tackling the big problem in bite-sized chunks instead of making adjustments on all fronts, be it considerable advantage on premmo use, need to use premmo, and HE mechanics. Saying that armor won't see any changes (repeatedly when asked) gives impression that there's no problem with fact that heavily armored tanks are strongest in current meta. And trying to do something about non-existing problem of HE (HESH is different story), by eliminating use of armor as a factor against HE- no longer 0 damage hits if sandbox is anything to go by- is just complicating the core problem.

 

Tldr yea they might have pulled a fast one there, but at least they attempt to give impression they are listening to feedback.

 

They've had a year to test it, it doesnt take that long for competent dev. Many do proper updates once a week or two, WG takes multiple month and bring crap like british meds etc.



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View PostChristOfTheAbyss, on 26 October 2019 - 11:02 AM, said:

 

They've had a year to test it, it doesnt take that long for competent dev. Many do proper updates once a week or two, WG takes multiple month and bring crap like british meds etc.

Indeed. Quite frankly I'm surprised they even gave a deadline for premmo changes. They have a f-load of people to consider, and tbf year is quite short time when one needs to track about 600 FTP tanks and 200ish potentially paid tanks.

 

Better indeed would have been starting a more condensed, more rapidly reacting sandbox that'd be continuously on and introducing changes and tweaks on bi-weekly basis and forcing some feedback from users of said sandbox in addition to statistical comparisons to live server. But one can always dump everything at once in 3 month crapfest and expect rational results...



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View Post4nt, on 26 October 2019 - 01:29 PM, said:

Tldr yea they might have pulled a fast one there, but at least they attempt to give impression they are listening to feedback.

 

What feedback they listened to? Most of YouTubers that I know say that HE rebalance is really unnecessary! Even players say, but they are testing out.

 



ChristOfTheAbyss #20 Posted 26 October 2019 - 11:19 AM

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View Postsplash_time, on 26 October 2019 - 11:15 AM, said:

 

What feedback they listened to? Most of YouTubers that I know say that HE rebalance is really unnecessary! Even players say, but they are testing out.

 

 

I've seen the opposite actually. People like Daki and Circon agree with it, atleast the first iteration, where HE did barely any dmg.






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