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MightyBalls_2 #1 Posted 25 October 2019 - 10:58 AM

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I have the Obj 260 on my main account doing the LT, MT, TD, HT all with honours and never did arties.

 

On my 2nd account, I could not be bothered to try and get honours for all. So I played arty, I'm not a great arty but I have managed to get through all the missions and finally I am on the SPG 15.

 

My question is:

 

1. Which tank is best?

2. Is it best to play a tank like the M53/55 with the stock gun so it can assist every 20 seconds rather than 33 seconds on the big gun?

 

I hate playing arty, 1 because I am bad at it, 2 because it should be taken out of the game :)



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M53 or 212A, both with the top gun. Primary mission ain't hard. Getting the secondary can be really really difficult.

Spurtung #3 Posted 25 October 2019 - 11:29 AM

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View PostMightyBalls_2, on 25 October 2019 - 09:58 AM, said:

I hate playing arty, 1 because I am bad at it, 2 because it should be taken out of the game

 

I just love that kind of thought pattern.



splash_time #4 Posted 25 October 2019 - 11:32 AM

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View PostMightyBalls_2, on 25 October 2019 - 01:28 PM, said:

I have the Obj 260 on my main account doing the LT, MT, TD, HT all with honours and never did arties.

 

On my 2nd account, I could not be bothered to try and get honours for all. So I played arty, I'm not a great arty but I have managed to get through all the missions and finally I am on the SPG 15.

 

My question is:

 

1. Which tank is best?

2. Is it best to play a tank like the M53/55 with the stock gun so it can assist every 20 seconds rather than 33 seconds on the big gun?

 

I hate playing arty, 1 because I am bad at it, 2 because it should be taken out of the game :)

 

Why you do it while you can pass it with orders? 

Edit: I never done arty missions, I pass them with orders


Edited by splash_time, 25 October 2019 - 11:33 AM.


etody77 #5 Posted 25 October 2019 - 11:32 AM

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Tier 10, soviet, or american

Mission is hard now because stun rebalance.

If another arty stunned an enemy before you, the stunn damage will be counted on that arty not on yours

And...you need to be best player in your team too...



MightyBalls_2 #6 Posted 25 October 2019 - 11:36 AM

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View Postsplash_time, on 25 October 2019 - 11:32 AM, said:

 

Why you do it while you can pass it with orders? 

Edit: I never done arty missions, I pass them with orders

 

I can't pass it with orders because I have used the orders for other things because my 2nd account does not have all the tanks needed because I have only 5k games on it.



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View PostMightyBalls_2, on 25 October 2019 - 09:58 AM, said:

1. Which tank is best?

2. Is it best to play a tank like the M53/55 with the stock gun so it can assist every 20 seconds rather than 33 seconds on the big gun?

 

I agree. Use the stock gun. It's all about maximising opportunities. I did it with the 3805, using vents, rammer, BIA and food on the middle tier VIII gun.

 

Rate of fire is the key thing for this mission and that got me a 22.16 second reload.

 

With the M53/55 you can get exactly the same, but the 3805 has 8m explosion radius rather than 7.6m for the 53/55. But I assume you're not going to grind all that for just 0.4m?

 

Then it took the usual stars to align. Malinovka map, with an enemy team of heavies that were pretty bad, and my own team being mediocre. If your team are too good they steamroller the enemy, and you don't maximise the stuns.

 

I guess it took around 40 games for those stars to align. Also, tier IX is cheaper to play than tier X, so if you're going to do it just for the mission, keep it cheap.



MightyBalls_2 #8 Posted 25 October 2019 - 11:37 AM

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View Postetody77, on 25 October 2019 - 11:32 AM, said:

Tier 10, soviet, or american

Mission is hard now because stun rebalance.

If another arty stunned an enemy before you, the stunn damage will be counted on that arty not on yours

And...you need to be best player in your team too...

 

This is the reason why I am asking. This is the first real mission that I have played 30 games and not really got close to achieving!



splash_time #9 Posted 25 October 2019 - 11:38 AM

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View PostMightyBalls_2, on 25 October 2019 - 02:06 PM, said:

 

I can't pass it with orders because I have used the orders for other things because my 2nd account does not have all the tanks needed because I have only 5k games on it.

 

You mean this current account?  

And gl. :)



MightyBalls_2 #10 Posted 25 October 2019 - 11:40 AM

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 25 October 2019 - 11:37 AM, said:

 

I agree. Use the stock gun. It's all about maximising opportunities. I did it with the 3805, using vents, rammer, BIA and food on the middle tier VIII gun.

 

Rate of fire is the key thing for this mission and that got me a 22.16 second reload.

 

With the M53/55 you can get exactly the same, but the 3805 has 8m explosion radius rather than 7.6m for the 53/55. But I assume you're not going to grind all that for just 0.4m?

 

Then it took the usual stars to align. Malinovka map, with an enemy team of heavies that were pretty bad, and my own team being mediocre. If your team are too good they steamroller the enemy, and you don't maximise the stuns.

 

I guess it took around 40 games for those stars to align. Also, tier IX is cheaper to play than tier X, so if you're going to do it just for the mission, keep it cheap.

 

Ive played about 40 games, I have played maps like Ensk, Minsk etc about 5 times and a few other really poor arty maps within them games which has not helped though.

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View Postsplash_time, on 25 October 2019 - 11:38 AM, said:

 

You mean this current account?  

And gl. :)

 

Nope 2nd account, not played my first account in about a year now.



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View PostMightyBalls_2, on 25 October 2019 - 10:40 AM, said:

 

Ive played about 40 games, I have played maps like Ensk, Minsk etc about 5 times and a few other really poor arty maps within them games which has not helped though.

 

I forgot to say I also had encounter enabled, which isn't usual for me.

 

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There's no way to say it. This is one of those missions where probably 4/5 of the mission is totally out of your hands. But if you don't have the understanding of the meta, or the right arty the last 1/5 makes it very hard. 

 

If you've got the M53/55, then it's just going to be a grind I'm afraid.......:(



MightyBalls_2 #12 Posted 25 October 2019 - 11:49 AM

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 25 October 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

 

I forgot to say I also had encounter enabled, which isn't usual for me.

 

Capture.jpg

 

There's no way to say it. This is one of those missions where probably 4/5 of the mission is totally out of your hands. But if you don't have the understanding of the meta, or the right arty the last 1/5 makes it very hard. 

 

If you've got the M53/55, then it's just going to be a grind I'm afraid.......:(

 

Could you link me to that replay so I can take note on what you did :)



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I've played 20-30 games in last week, managed to made the ammount of stunned damage twice, but i was second or third by exp done

I was best player in my team in 75% of games, but didnt made the required damage on stun

In 1 battle with russian arty i made 3800 damage, and 3100 damage on stun, because a teammate didnt shooted stunned tanks :))



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View PostMightyBalls_2, on 25 October 2019 - 10:49 AM, said:

 

Could you link me to that replay so I can take note on what you did :)

 

Sure, it's an old version of the client though (any swearing in the replay will just be a bug in the translation mod I use.....:B)

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5067533#malinovka-long_range_sniper-fv3805

 

I actually thought I'd help out by searching WoTReplays for someone doing the 260 mission with the current client. There was only one, and he only did it because he stunned for 2900, but then actually spotted for 300 damage!

 

http://wotreplays.eu...t_error-m53_m55

 

Seems like it is harder than expected......:(

 

Edit: The key for me was two things.

 

1. Always aiming for an enemy tank that has direct fire from one of your own tanks. Which you should be good at as a good player, so you'll know who can shoot what and where.

2. Aiming slightly off so you maximise tracking potential, rather than damage.

 

 


Edited by Long_Range_Sniper, 25 October 2019 - 12:08 PM.


etody77 #15 Posted 25 October 2019 - 12:54 PM

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 25 October 2019 - 12:07 PM, said:

Seems like it is harder than expected......:(

 

Yes

2-3 patches ago, arty stun was nerfed

spalsh damage was nerfed

Only 1 mission was changed, on the obj. from personal campaign 2.0

For example, i did primary condition for SPG-10 for obj.260 when i was playing arty to finish them

2 weeks ago i opened the campaign page and i have seen 1 unfinished mission for SPG :)



MightyBalls_2 #16 Posted 25 October 2019 - 12:57 PM

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 25 October 2019 - 12:07 PM, said:

 

Sure, it's an old version of the client though (any swearing in the replay will just be a bug in the translation mod I use.....:B)

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5067533#malinovka-long_range_sniper-fv3805

 

I actually thought I'd help out by searching WoTReplays for someone doing the 260 mission with the current client. There was only one, and he only did it because he stunned for 2900, but then actually spotted for 300 damage!

 

http://wotreplays.eu...t_error-m53_m55

 

Seems like it is harder than expected......:(

 

Edit: The key for me was two things.

 

1. Always aiming for an enemy tank that has direct fire from one of your own tanks. Which you should be good at as a good player, so you'll know who can shoot what and where.

2. Aiming slightly off so you maximise tracking potential, rather than damage.

 

 

 

Thank you for your help :)

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 25 October 2019 - 12:07 PM, said:

 

Sure, it's an old version of the client though (any swearing in the replay will just be a bug in the translation mod I use.....:B)

 

 

No worries I can download old version of clients and you do not have to install world of tanks... using this website:

 

http://wot.djgappa.com/

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 25 October 2019 - 12:07 PM, said:

 

any swearing in the replay will just be a bug in the translation mod I use.....:B

 

 

 

Lol... I have turned chat off because I get to salty at the muppets on the team, and start shouting do this, do that, do this you window licking idiots.

So I have turned off chat because I do not want to get banned for assault lol..


Edited by MightyBalls_2, 25 October 2019 - 01:02 PM.


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I don't play arty that often but when I play it it feels like people shoot stunned tanks much less than before (a year or more ago).

 

I did 15-4 with secondaries a month ago. Key was picking up 1900 spotting damage on an IS-4.

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5041187#karelia-eldrak-m53_m55

 

I feel you need to be lucky and find an afk heavy to splash just as the lemmingtrain reach it or someone crossing in the open unaware.



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If we are posting arta replays, I would like to post this one: http://wotreplays.eu...e/4449729#stats

Sadly, the E100 on my, I mean my friend's, team was afk and couldn't kill the last remaining enemy. 'My friend' just fired his last shot already. Still a nice score imo.

 

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