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beat the house in a rigged casino (8nations tank version)


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_PAIN_KILLER_ #1 Posted 25 October 2019 - 09:13 PM

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is it possible to have win streaks when every little aspect in this game is ordered server side, having NOTHING to do with player skill, or "skill"?

like MM, like misses, like bounces, like hits...

 

here's my day, a long day in the casino, with dealers with quick fingers, and marked cards:

 

crapgame wot

 

I would love to say that out of those games, all wins were one after the other, "a streak", but that would be a lie,

 

so thank you wot, for nothing.

I guess no one at wg ever plays this for more than 2 games.

 

another crap event, maybe different than the regular zombie summoning for some tank, on the background idea that rng is skill.


Edited by _PAIN_KILLER_, 25 October 2019 - 09:14 PM.


NekoPuffer_PPP #2 Posted 25 October 2019 - 09:18 PM

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Fear not, young tanker, for I have the answer!

 

Platoons.



barison1 #3 Posted 25 October 2019 - 09:42 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 25 October 2019 - 09:18 PM, said:

Fear not, young tanker, for I have the answer!

 

Platoons.


3 man 279e platoons are always the answer :trollface:



resheph73 #4 Posted 25 October 2019 - 09:48 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 25 October 2019 - 08:18 PM, said:

Fear not, young tanker, for I have the answer!

 

Platoons.

 

And gold, lots of it. 



Balc0ra #5 Posted 25 October 2019 - 10:23 PM

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First 3 days I got 8 no problem. Today less soo. I lost 8 games in a row in the WZ-111-1-4 before I elited it. It happens. You have a crap day today, but I'm sure you had your fair share of win streaks too. But when you get 18 wins in 26 games. Do you come here to post about it too? No, because most won't even notice it when they have a good day. They only notice the bad. 

Chuwt #6 Posted 25 October 2019 - 11:44 PM

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Well, i do not subscribe to the "rigged game" theories, but this particular mission is not very well conceived, as even a good player (which i am not claiming to be) has little real control over the order of their wins/losses, which makes the whole thing random. Given the way statistics work, having a (say) 55% win percentage means little compared with the reducing chance of consecutive wins by sheer chance.

 



Wintermute_1 #7 Posted 25 October 2019 - 11:53 PM

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Been trying to get these streaks in German tanks because I picked Germany... seriously you don't have to use the tanks of the nation you picked! Got the 10 points yesterday so I gave up playing German tanks and low and behold the longest streak I've had in non German tanks. What was the point in even theming the special? You pick a country and that's it? carry on as normal, it was a super lame idea WG sorry.

TANKOPPRESSION #8 Posted 26 October 2019 - 01:26 AM

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LOL , Great , wargaming shooting themselves in the foot again NO ONE REALY SHOULD BE SEEING MORE THAN 3 WINS IN A ROW ,

gg , wg . :)



LincolnTank #9 Posted 26 October 2019 - 08:31 AM

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As with most events that offer a decent vehicle prize it’s heavily weighted towards the best players who can usually fly through the grind easily

Not an issue per se but demoralising for  the average player who can grind and grind and grind but still not achieve

ValkyrionX #10 Posted 26 October 2019 - 08:33 AM

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View Postbarison1, on 25 October 2019 - 09:42 PM, said:


3 man 279e platoons are always the answer :trollface:

 

REPORTED :teethhappy:

 

 

07:38 Added after 5 minute

although I can't make 8 victories in a row, playing English vehicles, I can easily sit in the top 300-500 players.

 

I also managed to stay in the top 100 for two days.

 

I'm currently playing fv215b, fv183, S Conq, Excelsior, Chieftain and Badger.

 

However the concept of the event is wrong because winning a game does not depend on the individual player , even if in a platoon with other 2 players, as the team is made up by 15 players.

 

I would have found different formats, perhaps based on the damage or the gain of exp and not on the number of consecutive victories.


Edited by ValkyrionX, 26 October 2019 - 08:43 AM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #11 Posted 26 October 2019 - 08:40 AM

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View PostLincolnTank, on 26 October 2019 - 08:31 AM, said:

As with most events that offer a decent vehicle prize it’s heavily weighted towards the best players who can usually fly through the grind easily

Not an issue per se but demoralising for the average player who can grind and grind and grind but still not achieve

 

As with any event that requires the player to accomplish anything at all its weighted in favour of better players. Why it is a surprise that better players can do it faster?

 

Unless you're going to start running events which the objective for the day is something as complicated as "click battle once" how would you go about designing an event that gives every player of every skill level the exact same chance to succeed? 



GodTank2 #12 Posted 26 October 2019 - 09:17 AM

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Well i am currently in the 123th place in the event ( i havent played any games today yet ) and i am not an extremely good player so it is possible for even average players to achieve top 500 pretty easily if you play 20 games a day.

Edited by GodTank2, 26 October 2019 - 09:18 AM.


malachi6 #13 Posted 26 October 2019 - 10:33 AM

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  To me, I feel as if you are saying to make the game not feel rigged you need it to be rigged.

 

As mentioned before.  Part of the issue is personal rewards for playing a team-based game.



Karasu_Hidesuke #14 Posted 26 October 2019 - 10:36 AM

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View Postresheph73, on 25 October 2019 - 08:48 PM, said:

 

And gold, lots of it. 

 

They are even spamming lots of it on lower tiers now... :(



ValkyrionX #15 Posted 26 October 2019 - 01:39 PM

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View Postmalachi6, on 26 October 2019 - 10:33 AM, said:

  To me, I feel as if you are saying to make the game not feel rigged you need it to be rigged.

 

As mentioned before.  Part of the issue is personal rewards for playing a team-based game.

 

+1



xx984 #16 Posted 27 October 2019 - 07:47 AM

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Had 11 wins in a row yesterday, shame can only get 8 points a day

NoobySkooby #17 Posted 27 October 2019 - 09:22 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 25 October 2019 - 09:18 PM, said:

Fear not, young tanker, for I have the answer!

 

Platoons.

That is indeed the answer,just avoid any with me in it, lol



TANKOPPRESSION #18 Posted 27 October 2019 - 09:28 PM

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View Postxx984, on 27 October 2019 - 06:47 AM, said:

Had 11 wins in a row yesterday, shame can only get 8 points a day


How can this be mathematically , anyone should only be only able to get 3 wins in a row maximum 4 , I just dont know whats happening here . hmmm



TomatoShooter #19 Posted 27 October 2019 - 10:21 PM

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View PostTANKOPPRESSION, on 27 October 2019 - 09:28 PM, said:


How can this be mathematically , anyone should only be only able to get 3 wins in a row maximum 4 , I just dont know whats happening here . hmmm

Please explain why only 3 to 4 wins are mathematically possible. Please with the mathematical formula included!



sniper_pixie #20 Posted 27 October 2019 - 10:29 PM

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Downloaded xvm earlier this week, having not used it for years. Very demoralising to see that every 4th game today my team would see 6 - 15 as an excellent result.




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