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gilly136 #1 Posted 29 October 2019 - 01:04 AM

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what is the point in ranked battles if your team does not have the broken over powered 279e and the other team does?

smokeytheband1t #2 Posted 29 October 2019 - 01:07 AM

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did you know the T110E3 is very meta.

gilly136 #3 Posted 29 October 2019 - 01:48 AM

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View Postsmokeytheband1t, on 29 October 2019 - 01:07 AM, said:

did you know the T110E3 is very meta.

its nothing like the 279e smokey



Spurtung #4 Posted 29 October 2019 - 03:32 AM

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View Postgilly136, on 29 October 2019 - 12:48 AM, said:

what is the point in ranked battles if your team does not have the broken over powered 279e and the other team does?

 

Of all the questions you could be asking, this is what troubles you the most?


Edited by Spurtung, 29 October 2019 - 03:33 AM.


gilly136 #5 Posted 29 October 2019 - 03:45 AM

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View PostSpurtung, on 29 October 2019 - 03:32 AM, said:

 

Of all the questions you could be asking, this is what troubles you the most?


and of all the threads you could have replied to you chose this one? Don't try to get clever its a genuine observation

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Spurtung #6 Posted 29 October 2019 - 04:39 AM

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View Postgilly136, on 29 October 2019 - 02:45 AM, said:

and of all the threads you could have replied to you chose this one? Don't try to get clever its a genuine observation

 

No, it's not.

You should really be asking yourself how you can deal with the 279 instead of shrugging it off as a "it's OP, and that's why I get owned".

 

You're butthurt and lazy, and that seldom produces any relevant observations.

 



gilly136 #7 Posted 29 October 2019 - 05:33 AM

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*Edited

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Spurtung #8 Posted 29 October 2019 - 05:39 AM

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View Postgilly136, on 29 October 2019 - 04:33 AM, said:

*Edited 

 

Yeah, so instead of asking yourself how you can deal with the 279, you really should be asking yourself wtf are you even doing at tier 10 battles.

 

Rushing the tiers and failing on the way up should have been a clear sign to slow down and check yourself. But no, not you. You get up there, and like the unprepared bot you are, you decide it's a smart idea to just face a 279. No, not just the tank, but the player with it that simply put has much more experience, skill, and resources than you do, and all you can whine about is how the tank is OP. Really, you Steves, and all the catering you get, are the reason this game is slowly going down.

 

Edit: I'm not even gonna comment on your (predictable) use of HE...



gilly136 #9 Posted 29 October 2019 - 05:42 AM

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View PostSpurtung, on 29 October 2019 - 05:39 AM, said:

 

Yeah, so instead of asking yourself how you can deal with the 279, you really should be asking yourself wtf are you even doing at tier 10 battles.

 

Rushing the tiers and failing on the way up should have been a clear sign to slow down and check yourself. But no, not you. You get up there, and like the unprepared bot you are, you decide it's a smart idea to just face a 279. No, not just the tank, but the player with it that simply put has much more experience, skill, and resources than you do, and all you can whine about is how the tank is OP. Really, you Steves, and all the catering you get, are the reason this game is slowly going down.


yeah like having two tier tens is rushing , so cmon mr unicum how would you deal with the object while its spamming you with heat?



Spurtung #10 Posted 29 October 2019 - 05:52 AM

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View Postgilly136, on 29 October 2019 - 04:42 AM, said:


yeah like having two tier tens is rushing , so cmon mr unicum how would you deal with the object while its spamming you with heat?

 

You spam it back with HEAT on the upper plate.

I should also remind you that engaging any tank when they have the advantage (be it position, numbers, armor, whatever) is probably not the best idea, so at the end of the day, it doesn't have to be you solving the problem. It's clear you don't have the resources for it, anyway.

 

Footnote: You could have all tier 10s and still had rushed the tiers. After all, the only thing you need is time, you can literally fail over and over and still get enough XP to progress, that should be a no-brainer.



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View Postgilly136, on 29 October 2019 - 05:42 AM, said:


yeah like having two tier tens is rushing , so cmon mr unicum how would you deal with the object while its spamming you with heat?

Depends what gun you have. Tier 10 TD's eat it for breakfast, and 340 heat is 50-50 if it pens or not if he is not angling, and if he is angling badly and shoot the weakspot it's 100%. You can also easily shoot the cupolas since they are fairly large and have only 220mm. If you had a brain you could have figured this out yourself and didn't need to start this useless thread.

One interesting thing is that in randoms the chieftain is way better since it has the mobility to get damage in the clean up stage while the 279 doesn't. I expected the same in ranked but i was wrong, and i see why.

In ranked most of the action takes place on the important flank in a big a*s brawl, and the clean-up phase doesn't involve chasing damage on the other flank, but people coming around and flanking the guys on the heavy flank.

Which is the ideal situation for the 279. Close range brawl where you control the engagement, and where you don't have to chase damage since they are all sitting there waiting to be farmed. I suspect when i get higher in the ranks, the farm won't be that easy anymore and the chieftain will pull ahead.

 

So far, it's been extremely easy playing 279 and chief and getting 2 chevrons most of the time by just pressing w to the important flank, and farming all the bots who join ranked for the 1mil credits for 20 battles. It almost feels like cheating.



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Just flank around, or aim for weak spots.

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View Postgilly136, on 29 October 2019 - 03:34 AM, said:

what is the point in ranked battles if your team does not have the broken over powered 279e and the other team does?

 

Yeah we all know and see them, but it doesn't mean that it can't be stopped, if you manage to pen it twice or more, the driver will fair progressing and fall back slowly. Or the logical idea is to destroy whoever is around him and finally rush that tank and finish him off. 

 

These all are depending on your team, so if you lose against it, it's *your team* fault.



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View Postgilly136, on 29 October 2019 - 04:33 AM, said:

so cuntface I sit and hit it with he while it smacks me with heat? You really are a [edited]wannabe clever [edited]arsehole

 

I'm guessing from this response that you're a tad triggered over the 279e issue, and you were struggling to find the right words.

 

Ranked is about playing your tank to its role. I don't know which tier X you're playing but according to stats sites you've got the 5A and the CAX.

 

In ranked the 5A is probably going to perform better, but I'd suggest that the 279e is the least of your worries. Like all tanks if you take on any tank directly at its strong points then you've got to be stronger than they are. That's the tank AND the player.

 

I have the Chieftain, but I've played the EBR more in ranked so far. Because I played the EBR a lot in FL and CW, I find I play that more to its role, and so get more XP in ranked. Especially against good players which is where the CW experience is useful. I was getting single chevrons with the Chieftain, but quite a few double chevrons with the EBR.

 

Given your polite post above, I suspect you're not in a reflective mood. But do you honestly think you perform at tier X anyway?


Edited by Long_Range_Sniper, 29 October 2019 - 08:00 AM.


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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 29 October 2019 - 07:59 AM, said:

so cuntface I sit and hit it with he while it smacks me with heat? You really are a [edited]wannabe clever [edited]arsehole

 

I'm guessing from this response that you're a tad triggered over the 279e issue, and you were struggling to find the right words.

 

Ranked is about playing your tank to its role. I don't know which tier X you're playing but according to stats sites you've got the 5A and the CAX.

 

In ranked the 5A is probably going to perform better, but I'd suggest that the 279e is the least of your worries. Like all tanks if you take on any tank directly at its strong points then you've got to be stronger than they are. That's the tank AND the player.

 

I have the Chieftain, but I've played the EBR more in ranked so far. Because I played the EBR a lot in FL and CW, I find I play that more to its role, and so get more XP in ranked. Especially against good players which is where the CW experience is useful. I was getting single chevrons with the Chieftain, but quite a few double chevrons with the EBR.

 

Given your polite post above, I suspect you're not in a reflective mood. But do you honestly think you perform at tier X anyway?

Sorry to intervene, but I think 1.3k dpg at tier X is rather decent.



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Why did the chicken cross the road ?

Object two seven nine e!

 

Knock Knock!

Object two seven nine e!



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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 29 October 2019 - 07:16 AM, said:

Sorry to intervene, but I think 1.3k dpg at tier X is rather decent.

 

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TheDrownedApe #19 Posted 29 October 2019 - 08:49 AM

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Haha thanks OP for giving me early morning humour. Start name calling far too early but at least it's valid. ..oh wait...:teethhappy:

 

As for the 279e; it's available to you and everyone else. So stop whining and go get one



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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 29 October 2019 - 08:44 AM, said:

 

I didn't see that. I was looking at tier for tier winrate on wotlabs. Because ranked is XP based for role, it's firstly important to win, as a winning team gets more positive chevron slots. Then it's important to play for role and there are factors along with damage. With a 47% winrate at tier X, and only two vehicles I'd suggest that's not the breadth of experience to avoid being frustrated in ranked (given the meta can be frustrating anyway). For all we know the damage is from a campy playstyle? 

 

If he's playing the 5A and getting frustrated against 279e's it would be logical to swap to the CAX. But we know that will probably be frustrating as well for different reasons.

 

My two penneth is just they he's neither got the experience, or breadth of tanks at tier X to find ranked anything other than really challenging, and that's got nothing to do with 279e's.


Well, allow me. I think players with 30k+ games kind of forgot what it means to be at 10k, are smug and unhelpful. At least that's their first reaction. It would be really nice to come to the forums and get some real advice from those players. But for some reason this community is quite toxic, including here on the forums. With very few notable exceptions.

 

Now, regarding OP. I can relate to you mate. Last ranked I had 2 T10's too. I found it really challenging. But it's a good experience anyway, I dare say, you can learn from it. Now I have about 10 T10's, I'm playing in the second season and after a day I can tell things are going much better. I had a good result in qualification and started in D3. I tried different tanks, because I have more of them now, and I found that I get the best results with Leopard 1 (oddly), although I do own some of the "meta" tech tree tanks like 430U, Kranvagn and others. I guess you'll have to trudge along this season, for as long as you can bear it, but don't lose hope. Playing at a different level can help you improve, if you learn from your experiences, and getting more T10 tanks will allow you some variety, you'll be able to try different tanks and see what works for you best.


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