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Azrael_Leopard #1 Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:21 AM

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Hey there, i would like to talk about perhaps an unpopular topic for ranked and how i personally think it is unfair, clan wars reward tanks.

now before anyone just slings hate at me or "go get one yourself" let me state that yes i would love a chieftain, or a 907 or any clan wars reward tank for that matter, but i dont have one, and dispite what some players may think i am not alone in not owning one, many many of us do not have one.

my point is, with so many players not having one, or not even having the ability to earn one, then how is it even fair to have said vehicles in a game mode where skill at random battles, NOT clan battles should be the determining factor for stats? i am sure all of you who play ranked have seen a boat load of chieftains, because well....they are really good if played right, BETTER than any line tank doing the same job, compair the chieftain to the super conq, you can still pen a super conq when its hull down, but to do that to a chief? yes its possible but its not going to happen often, the inate strength from a vehicle that is restricted behind a game mode that is totally different to ranked and random battles and therefore unavailable to a big majority is in my opinion totally unfair.

ranked should in my opinion be balanced around what players can unlock from the tech tree alone, that way EVERY player could unlock any tank on the battlefield, heck even the campaign reward tanks are more fair than clan wars reward tanks, you earn the campaign tanks from random battles, the same game mode that ranked is based on, any player has access to unlocking them.

i just got out of a game when the enemy team had 3 hull down chieftains working together, and my team didnt have any chieftains, so how are we even supposed to fight that? where is the counter play? you can ask arty to focus them sure, but arty might have other ideas, you can ask your td's to support when the chiefs eventully push, but they might not, and if your super conq's or other hull down tanks try to fight them....they will lose the fight becasue the chief is just better hull down than the rest, it is not ballanced for fighting regular tanks and it being resrtricted behind a game mode that has nothing to do with ranked battles is just bad.

TLDR : imo clan wars reward tanks have no place in ranked battles and ranked battles should be restricted to tech tree only vehicles to improve ballance to the game mode.

any thoughts or discussion is welcome, but please, constructive arguments not needless "git gud"

Fireintheholebra #2 Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:31 AM

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They dont even care about balance between normal tier 10 tanks, then figure out how WG suffers from consider if exclusive vehicles are an advantage

Edited by Fireintheholebra, 01 November 2019 - 02:33 AM.


xx984 #3 Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:32 AM

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eh, Only reward tank thats great for ranked is Chief. 

 

279's armour is only great vs lower tiers or tier 10 standard, not full tier 10 gold spam like ranked is, Plus ranked you need to be flexible, 5 deg gun dep isn't that. 

 

And i'd rather tank my 140 over 907 nearly every time in ranked as yet again, extra gun dep, and better turret armour. 



ValkyrionX #4 Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:35 AM

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go get one yourself !!

 

im joking , you're right ..facing all the time chiefs hulldonw is become patethic and the gameplay is garbage imo , Im in the first division and I sincerely see teams composed of 50-70% of chieftains

 

the same thing can be applied to the 279, we see many less of them but it does not mean that this tank do not deserves a nerf

yes, the reward tanks must be blocked in these modes,

 

obviously wg doesn't care about these problems, their primary thinking is those pathetic sandbox tests and badly organized events [missed halloween(?) and the nonsense 8-nations event] and ofc new premium vehicles


Edited by ValkyrionX, 01 November 2019 - 02:39 AM.


1ucky #5 Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:43 AM

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Get an Obj.430U and imagine that it's an Obj.907 with a dead driver + Jack of all Trades.

1ucky #6 Posted 01 November 2019 - 03:03 AM

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Or get an S.Conq and imagine it's a Chieftain with a dead driver, 30% Jack of all Trades, a broken engine, and parked with it's hull front pointing down on a 15° slope.

 

And there you go, you've got your own broken Campaign Reward vehicles.



Thlurp #7 Posted 01 November 2019 - 07:46 AM

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i'd love to have 907 etc. as well, but i don't have it (i missed the 907 cus i left when it came out)

i just don't complain about it and deal with it

 

i play my sheridan in ranked and still perform pretty good.

even though i have the 430U i can't seem to make it work



LordMuffin #8 Posted 01 November 2019 - 07:53 AM

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View PostValkyrionX, on 01 November 2019 - 02:35 AM, said:

go get one yourself !!

 

im joking , you're right ..facing all the time chiefs hulldonw is become patethic and the gameplay is garbage imo , Im in the first division and I sincerely see teams composed of 50-70% of chieftains

 

the same thing can be applied to the 279, we see many less of them but it does not mean that this tank do not deserves a nerf

yes, the reward tanks must be blocked in these modes,

 

obviously wg doesn't care about these problems, their primary thinking is those pathetic sandbox tests and badly organized events [missed halloween(?) and the nonsense 8-nations event] and ofc new premium vehicles

If I only had a T10 arty, then I would join ranked in a heartbeat.


Edited by LordMuffin, 01 November 2019 - 07:53 AM.


TankkiPoju #9 Posted 01 November 2019 - 07:55 AM

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Meh I am just playing Batchat.

 

The thing is even if I had Chieftain, I don't think I would like to play a heavy tank in ranked at all. It's way more fun to look for an opening to clip people, even if it is quite hard in this mode and map selection.



splash_time #10 Posted 01 November 2019 - 09:34 AM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 01 November 2019 - 10:25 AM, said:

Meh I am just playing Batchat.

 

The thing is even if I had Chieftain, I don't think I would like to play a heavy tank in ranked at all. It's way more fun to look for an opening to clip people, even if it is quite hard in this mode and map selection.

 

I just play with my Kranv and 268v4, it's really interesting.

Most of players use chieftain but they just screw up.. lol. 

And others who use 279 e, they just rush trough and get reket, and yh, I penned it yesterday with AP (268 v4).

 

My point is, the player is important, not the tank. :)



TankkiPoju #11 Posted 01 November 2019 - 10:27 AM

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View Postsplash_time, on 01 November 2019 - 09:34 AM, said:

.Most of players use chieftain but they just screw up.. lol. 

 

Yeah it seems a lot of people are playing super aggressive in 279e and Chieftains. They push too early and into locations they are vulnerable in.

 

These tanks are very strong, but these are full tier 10 games, which means they tend to push into tier 10 TDs and arty.



Zer0RNG #12 Posted 01 November 2019 - 10:40 AM

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View Post1ucky, on 01 November 2019 - 02:43 AM, said:

Get an Obj.430U and imagine that it's an Obj.907 with a dead driver + Jack of all Trades.

u can't compare 430u gun handling with 907..... come on... 430u have gun handling of defender :trollface: =>>> so  Obj.907 with an dead driver and gunner + Jack of all Trades.

plus... 430u is set on fire so often....especially with the gold spam from ranked battles 


Edited by Zer0RNG, 01 November 2019 - 10:43 AM.


splash_time #13 Posted 01 November 2019 - 10:46 AM

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View PostZer0RNG, on 01 November 2019 - 01:10 PM, said:

u can't compare 430u gun handling with 907..... come on... 430u have gun handling of defender :trollface:

plus... 430u is set on fire so often....especially with the gold spam from ranked battles 

 

Well yesterday I snapshoted a T100 lt's turret with my Russian 0.39 accuracy (268 v4) :trollface:

(from 250-300 m distance)

 

And since when we miss a rear of an 268 v4 with 300 mm heat? It happened yesterday for me. :P


Edited by splash_time, 01 November 2019 - 10:49 AM.


Stevies_Team #14 Posted 01 November 2019 - 10:49 AM

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Just spend 20,000 credits on food per game for each tank you play and you'll get the full tier 10 fun experience without ever needing a tier 10 tank

 

Glad I could help



1ucky #15 Posted 01 November 2019 - 01:12 PM

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View PostZer0RNG, on 01 November 2019 - 10:40 AM, said:

u can't compare 430u gun handling with 907..... come on... 430u have gun handling of defender :trollface: =>>> so  Obj.907 with an dead driver and gunner + Jack of all Trades.

plus... 430u is set on fire so often....especially with the gold spam from ranked battles 

 

Jokes aside, the 430U gun handling is superb.

 

Yes it's not super accurate so you can't reliably hit track shots or weakspots (or sometimes even whole tanks) at huge distances, but if you're not super far away you can hit tanks with snap shots no matter how little you aim or how fast you're moving/spinning/jumping at the same time, etc.

 

(TLDR: Great gun stabilization, imperfect accuracy. Good deal, overall, for WoT chaos purposes.)



eldrak #16 Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:04 PM

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There is nothing stopping you from getting your own reward tanks anymore. M60 and 121B are right there in the ingame shop.

kdaag #17 Posted 01 November 2019 - 03:11 PM

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I'd love to have a chieftan as well and hopefully I can get one next cw campaign for all my bonds... (around 35k then hopefully)

 

Until then I play arty and focus the chieftans...



Zer0RNG #18 Posted 01 November 2019 - 04:49 PM

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View Postkdaag, on 01 November 2019 - 03:11 PM, said:

I'd love to have a chieftan as well and hopefully I can get one next cw campaign for all my bonds... (around 35k then hopefully)

 

Until then I play arty and focus the chieftans...

gj "__"  can focus them because I dont have one eider 



Shadow_Of_Warrrior #19 Posted 01 November 2019 - 06:21 PM

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this game mode is just selfish play, as soon as a few die all in cornor trying to get top on loseing team, see it all the time



LordMuffin #20 Posted 01 November 2019 - 08:04 PM

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View PostShadow_Of_Warrrior, on 01 November 2019 - 06:21 PM, said:

this game mode is just selfish play, as soon as a few die all in cornor trying to get top on loseing team, see it all the time

What a revelation that a mode which primarily rewards selfish play makes players selfish.






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