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splash_time #1 Posted 01 November 2019 - 06:06 PM

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Hi there tankers. :)

So, the tank overall is awesome, but i still lack some experience. So i'll appreciate it if you guys watch my replays and tell me what are my bad moves. :)

All feedback is appreciated! 

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Ghost town

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Redshire

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Steppes

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5075335#steppes-splash_time-m60


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Don't have time to watch the replays right now.

 

But while i personally play my M60 Close/Mid range. You really should play it mid/long range. Similar to how the old Leo 1 played. Just be careful as the camo is worse. Stay back, and get damage from a bit further back then most mediums, and then when the time is right use your mobility to go forward and then spot and trade HP in the end game. Always try to trade 2 for 1 if you can. Albeit slightly more difficult in M60 as its reload is slightly longer than most over tier 10 meds.  



AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #3 Posted 01 November 2019 - 08:53 PM

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Watched the Ghost town ,Redshire  games not much to say you average 2k dmg and those games were way higher than your avg meaning they were exceptionally good games for you 

View Postsplash_time, on 01 November 2019 - 06:06 PM, said:

 my bad moves. :)

 

there is no bad moves if you pick the good games link the games were you did lower than your hp  .:coin:

edit:plus platooning lowers your avg dmg and boosts your winrate so you can't really tell what's your actual  skill level .


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lnfernaI #4 Posted 01 November 2019 - 09:04 PM

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using your mouse and keyboard

 

I mean, it is similar to M48, so what is there to not know?



Dava_117 #5 Posted 01 November 2019 - 09:15 PM

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View Postsplash_time, on 01 November 2019 - 06:06 PM, said:

 

 

AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE is right. Its hard to do suggestion on good games. Those are the one we did correctly on the tank. Add a couple of losses or game in wich you did badly, were the mistake can be seen and pointed out. :)

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View PostlnfernaI, on 01 November 2019 - 09:04 PM, said:

using your mouse and keyboard

 

I mean, it is similar to M48, so what is there to not know?

 

Maybe he doesn't have a Patton. Plus Patton has an armoured turret that can bounce stuff, so those doesn't look so similar...



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View PostDava_117, on 01 November 2019 - 10:15 PM, said:

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Maybe he doesn't have a Patton. Plus Patton has an armoured turret that can bounce stuff, so those doesn't look so similar...

unless the medium is specialized to bounce shots, the armor is a real gimmick for most of them; something to never really rely on.

K-91 is a prime example of one.


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View Postsplash_time, on 01 November 2019 - 06:06 PM, said:

Hi there tankers. :)

So, the tank overall is awesome, but i still lack some experience. So i'll appreciate it if you guys watch my replays and tell me what are my bad moves. :)

All feedback is appreciated! 

Thanks.

Ghost town

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5075321#teams

Redshire

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5075326#redshire-splash_time-m60

Steppes

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5075335#steppes-splash_time-m60

 

If you want genuine help don´t post cherry picked games. Its meaningless to try and give feedback on your very best games. 



splash_time #8 Posted 01 November 2019 - 09:27 PM

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View PostJocMeister, on 01 November 2019 - 11:49 PM, said:

 

If you want genuine help don´t post cherry picked games. Its meaningless to try and give feedback on your very best games. 

 

Actually I had few games with it today, so yeah.

 

And you guys are right, I'll try to send some other replays tomorrow, lose ones if I had.

 

View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 01 November 2019 - 11:23 PM, said:

Watched the Ghost town ,Redshire  games not much to say you average 2k dmg and those games were way higher than your avg meaning they were exceptionally good games for you 

there is no bad moves if you pick the good games link the games were you did lower than your hp  .:coin:

edit:plus platooning lowers your avg dmg and boosts your winrate so you can't really tell what's your actual  skill level .

I know and yeah, but I platoon because as you can see from the replays, it still miss the sixth sence, so I platoon with my friend who actually have six sence. 

 

View PostlnfernaI, on 01 November 2019 - 11:34 PM, said:

using your mouse and keyboard

 

I mean, it is similar to M48, so what is there to not know?

@Dava is right, it my very first T10 MT, so I'm totally new on MTs gameplay in T10.


Edited by splash_time, 01 November 2019 - 09:30 PM.


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View PostlnfernaI, on 01 November 2019 - 09:19 PM, said:

unless the medium is specialized to bounce shots, the armor is a real gimmick for most of them; something to never really rely on.

K-91 is a prime example of one.

 

May be a gimmick, but enable the tank to abuse some situation. A Patton can work on a ridgeline better than an M60 with bad armour and the gigantic cupola.



splash_time #10 Posted 01 November 2019 - 09:39 PM

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View PostJocMeister, on 01 November 2019 - 11:49 PM, said:

 

If you want genuine help don´t post cherry picked games. Its meaningless to try and give feedback on your very best games. 

 

Sure, I'll try to share my lose replays here tomorrow. 

Now I'm using mobile phone. 

 



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View Postsplash_time, on 01 November 2019 - 10:27 PM, said:

 

@Dava is right, it my very first T10 MT, so I'm totally new on MTs gameplay in T10.

well, the gameplay practically does not differ from anything else in the line, from tier 5.



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View PostlnfernaI, on 02 November 2019 - 12:24 AM, said:

well, the gameplay practically does not differ from anything else in the line, from tier 5.

 

True, but still, I'm playing HTs mostly, so I thought to try different gameplays/classes.

Anyway, I'll try to share loses replays and I'll appreciate it if actually anyone help me out. :)

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And thanks to all who posted/replied. 

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View PostlnfernaI, on 01 November 2019 - 08:04 PM, said:

using your mouse and keyboard

 

I mean, it is similar to M48, so what is there to not know?

Its nothing like the M48.

 

M48 is slow, close range brawling medium. M60 is a fast, paper, accurate mid/long range support med


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View Postxx984, on 01 November 2019 - 11:24 PM, said:

Its nothing like the M48.

 

M48 is slow, close range brawling medium. M60 is a fast, paper, accurate mid/long range support med

you need to read M48 as ''american mediums''.

not as ''M48 the tank".

 

silly naab.



splash_time #15 Posted 02 November 2019 - 07:48 AM

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http://wotreplays.eu/site/5076110#highway-splash_time-m60 

my only lost battle with M 60 from yesterday.

 



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View Postsplash_time, on 02 November 2019 - 07:48 AM, said:

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5076110#highway-splash_time-m60 

my only lost battle with M 60 from yesterday.

 

Don't go to that flank ever again  it's pretty useless you get stuck there doing nothing stay near the bridge where the 705 was get some shots there on lights or some tanks crossing  ,and couple of shots on the heavies from the ramp to the left of the bridge you can shoot heavies coming from heavy side or mediums coming from the med side .

You have pretty bad ping +110ms try playing eu2 it might be better and use server reticle to see accurate representation of where your aiming at. 

-maybe lower your sensitivity in sniper mode just a little because the aim is really shaky and it's all over the place  .

 

 

 


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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 03 November 2019 - 02:40 PM, said:

Don't go to than flank ever again  it's pretty useless you get stuck there doing nothing stay near the bridge where the 705 was get some shots there on lights or some tanks crossing  ,and couple of shots on the heavies from the ramp to the left of the bridge you can shoot heavies coming from heavy side or mediums coming from the med side .

You have pretty bad ping +110ms try playing eu2 it might be better and use server reticle to see accurate representation of where your aiming at. 

-maybe lower your sensitivity in sniper mode just a little because the aim is really shaky and it's all over the place  .

 

 

 

 

Thanks for watching! 

And my crew still have "zero perks". And currently they are 95% with the necessary skills. 

And I'll try to test out what you suggested!  :)

Thanks in advance. 

And to be honest, I'm not a good MT player, not yet.


Edited by splash_time, 03 November 2019 - 12:22 PM.


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View PostAXIS_OF_RESISTANCE, on 03 November 2019 - 01:10 PM, said:

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Server hardly matters. I get the same ping regardless of whether I am connected to EU1 or EU2. What matters, is your actual connection (to the Internet).

 

View Postsplash_time, on 03 November 2019 - 01:21 PM, said:

And to be honest, I'm not a good MT player, not yet.

You need not MT skills when playing tanks disguised as other classes. Again, K-91 is my sole example of a TD which is disguised as MT. It's not a conventional medium.



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View PostlnfernaI, on 03 November 2019 - 05:52 PM, said:

Server hardly matters. I get the same ping regardless of whether I am connected to EU1 or EU2. What matters, is your actual connection (to the Internet).

 

My internet speed is 560 Kb/S.

 

You need not MT skills when playing tanks disguised as other classes. Again, K-91 is my sole example of a TD which is disguised as MT. It's not a conventional medium.

 

I agree with you, then what's your suggestion for playing M 60? it's good for spotting and sniping, but it lacks the camo.



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I don't have the time to look at your replays, what I can recommend you is to use optics, stabilizers and rammer as equipment.

 

The visual radius is essential for this vehicle.

if you want you can see some replays of the games on mine m60 to get an idea of how to play it in a "decent" way.

 

http://wotreplays.eu/uploader/ValkyrionX/id/603357/version/84,83,82,81,80,79,78,76,77,75,74,73,68,72,71,70,69,67,66,65,64,63,45,62,61,60,59,58,57,56,55,54,53,50,51,49,48,46,44,43,41,39,38,37,36,35,34,32,31,30,29,28,27,26,25,24,23,22,16,14,15,13,19,18,20,17,21,47,42,33,52,40/level/10/type/2/nation/3/tank/653-987/player/ValkyrionX/sort/uploaded_at.desc/


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