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Elefantas #1 Posted 01 November 2019 - 09:13 PM

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Anyone can confirm that ever worked ?

Bulldog_Drummond #2 Posted 01 November 2019 - 09:15 PM

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View PostElefantas, on 01 November 2019 - 08:13 PM, said:

Anyone can confirm that ever worked ?

 

Worked for me thousands of times.  Even better if you have two loaders with it.



Lanrefni #3 Posted 01 November 2019 - 09:21 PM

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It works, but I don't see point in it.

Homer_J #4 Posted 01 November 2019 - 09:30 PM

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View PostElefantas, on 01 November 2019 - 09:13 PM, said:

Anyone can confirm that ever worked ?

 

Yes, every so often when you switch ammo you get a "ching" and 0 reload time.

 

Maybe it doesn't do whet you think it does?

 

You have to have a shell fully loaded, then switch ammo.   You get a chance to reload instantly.  Would you take the gamble or gamble on penetrating instead?



Balc0ra #5 Posted 01 November 2019 - 09:49 PM

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Only ever really used it on one tank I've played lots. And on that "183" it has worked about once every 10th game or so that I do swap ammo.

LordMuffin #6 Posted 01 November 2019 - 10:15 PM

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View PostElefantas, on 01 November 2019 - 09:13 PM, said:

Anyone can confirm that ever worked ?

It works.

But since you don't know wether it will work or not, the perk is pretty useless.

 

If it was 100% to work, it would be a decent perk.



Scanmen #7 Posted 01 November 2019 - 10:22 PM

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View PostElefantas, on 01 November 2019 - 09:13 PM, said:

Anyone can confirm that ever worked ?

 

It works. It activates relatively often.



Elefantas #8 Posted 01 November 2019 - 10:26 PM

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tried some times but didnt

thanks for the replies people



Wintermute_1 #9 Posted 01 November 2019 - 10:43 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 01 November 2019 - 10:15 PM, said:

It works.

But since you don't know wether it will work or not, the perk is pretty useless.

 

If it was 100% to work, it would be a decent perk.


If it worked 100% of the time you'd load 1/2 std, 1/2 gold, swap every time you reloaded and have a dpm of a gazillion.



LordMuffin #10 Posted 01 November 2019 - 10:45 PM

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View PostWintermute_1, on 01 November 2019 - 10:43 PM, said:


If it worked 100% of the time you'd load 1/2 std, 1/2 gold, swap every time you reloaded and have a dpm of a gazillion.

Indeed, or HE.

It would require skill to utilise though. 

 

Still worse then 6th sense, repairs, camo, BiA imo.

 

Current situation is that it is better to shoot what you loaded at the target anyway.


Edited by LordMuffin, 01 November 2019 - 10:46 PM.


Wintermute_1 #11 Posted 01 November 2019 - 11:10 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 01 November 2019 - 10:45 PM, said:

Indeed, or HE.

It would require skill to utilise though. 

 

Still worse then 6th sense, repairs, camo, BiA imo.

 

Current situation is that it is better to shoot what you loaded at the target anyway.

 

It'd make playing the deathstar more interesting, load HE & HESH, fire.. 2.2... fire.. 1..1... fire .... 2..2.. fire ..  35000 DPM and out of ammo in under a minute.



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View PostWintermute_1, on 01 November 2019 - 11:10 PM, said:

 

It'd make playing the deathstar more interesting, load HE & HESH, fire.. 2.2... fire.. 1..1... fire .... 2..2.. fire ..  35000 DPM and out of ammo in under a minute.

Win/win. Let's do it.



HugSeal #13 Posted 02 November 2019 - 12:00 AM

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View PostWintermute_1, on 01 November 2019 - 10:43 PM, said:


If it worked 100% of the time you'd load 1/2 std, 1/2 gold, swap every time you reloaded and have a dpm of a gazillion.

 

How would it do that?

 

Doesn't intuition just swap what shell you have loaded/are loading, not decrease the loadtime?

 

" This switch will not reset the reload timer, and if the shell was already loaded, it will remain so."

 

If it instantly reloaded the shell then even a 10% chance would be easily broken by just jumping around between mo types until it dinged, and you would have a bunch of mods doing just that for you.


Edited by HugSeal, 02 November 2019 - 12:02 AM.


Wintermute_1 #14 Posted 02 November 2019 - 12:09 AM

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View PostHugSeal, on 02 November 2019 - 12:00 AM, said:

 

How would it do that?

 

Doesn't intuition just swap what shell you have loaded/are loading, not decrease the loadtime?

 

" This switch will not reset the reload timer, and if the shell was already loaded, it will remain so."

 

If it instantly reloaded the shell then even a 10% chance would be easily broken by just jumping around between mo types until it dinged, and you would have a bunch of mods doing just that for you.

 

You're probably right, I can't remember using intuition ever, but was always under the impression that if it worked the shell was instantly loaded. If not, its even more useless than I thought.



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View PostWintermute_1, on 02 November 2019 - 12:09 AM, said:

 

You're probably right, I can't remember using intuition ever, but was always under the impression that if it worked the shell was instantly loaded. If not, its even more useless than I thought.

 

Pretty much. If it would work 100% of the time it would have some use, or if it would be like on WoWs where changing shellswhen you are loaded would reload quicker than firing the shells.

 

As it is now you can either simply shoot the shell and hope for rng to pen or you can swap shells and hope for rng to instareload.



StronkiTonki #16 Posted 02 November 2019 - 05:57 AM

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I really don't see why you would ever want this skill over literally any other skill that a loader could possibly learn.

There's almost never any point in time where you'd have any benefit from it.

 

I've tried to think of so many situations. And the most useful one would probably be if a tank with unpennable armor and absolutely zero weakspots would appear, and you switch to prem. But even then, I'd more likely just shoot the tracks. So it would also require that tank to have it's tracks hidden I guess.

I wonder if someone else can think of a situation where it would be worth having this skill. It can only be useful if shooting your current shell can literally do nothing, and the shell you'd switch to could do something.

For example: Switching to HE for a Borsig would be useless, since you might as well do the guaranteed damage with your loaded AP.

I guess if you know for 100% certain that your 152mm AP shell on the KV-2 will not pen, and therefore switch to HE.

Then again, I don't really see a point of loading AP with a KV-2 when you're bottom tier.

 


Edited by StronkiTonki, 02 November 2019 - 06:02 AM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #17 Posted 02 November 2019 - 07:02 AM

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They could make it 100% to change, they just need to also give it a cooldown to use as well then it would be a viable perk.

 

Right now I've got it on a couple high alpha TD but usually only use it switching to an HE shell from standard to smack something with no armour because even if it does not trigger you've still got your standard shell loaded. 



splash_time #18 Posted 02 November 2019 - 07:09 AM

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It's great for auto loaders, so try it on them. :P

And it works rarely, they never introduced any chance counter (%) to us so we know how often it'll wrok. So I think it depend on your luck (probably like mine, I see a tank as huge as a mountain and my shell hits the ground.... :D)

Good luck!


Edited by splash_time, 02 November 2019 - 07:10 AM.


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View Postsplash_time, on 02 November 2019 - 07:09 AM, said:

And it works rarely, they never introduced any chance counter (%) to us so we know how often it'll wrok.

 

Change to trigger is +17% per loader with the perk so at best with two loaders with it you're only looking at a 34% chance. Not reliable at all, but if you have a very skilled crew it doesn't hurt to have as bonus. Sometimes it comes in. 



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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 02 November 2019 - 10:13 AM, said:

 

Change to trigger is +17% per loader with the perk so at best with two loaders with it you're only looking at a 34% chance. Not reliable at all, but if you have a very skilled crew it doesn't hurt to have as bonus. Sometimes it comes in. 

 

It's situational but so useful and handy! I usually train safe storage first for my crew, it's like this

 

Safe storage, BIA, intuition, and adrenalin rush IIRC. Thus I don't remember what's thr third perk.

Imagine if the chance have could increase with your crew! The more skilled crew you have, the higher chance you'll have to activitie it! :)

 






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