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miloshov84 #1 Posted 03 November 2019 - 03:03 PM

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Turtle I 

 

Hello to all,

I would like to share with this community my frustration with new premium vehicle from WG.

 

My observations after 25 battles or so with it is, that this is the worst tank ever made by WG. 

It has no penetration, no speed, no accuracy, nothing. It only has some kind of stupid armor,

which will stop only tier VI and VII tanks to pen you if they do not know where to shoot. 

 

This needs to be either buffed or it should be added to preferential MM to never see tier X. 

Simply because you are completely useless against tier X. You can somewhat pen tier VIII and some

tier IX meds, but nothing else. DPM of 3500 does not exist because you cannot pen or hit anything.

 

The overall conclusion for this tank is DO NOT BUY IT !!!!.

At least not until they buff it or do something so you can use it in the battle. 

 

I would like to hear someone else opinion.


Edited by miloshov84, 03 November 2019 - 03:03 PM.


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You have better results in Turtle then Obj 252U...

mpf1959 #3 Posted 03 November 2019 - 03:12 PM

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Yesterday, I saw a Turtle beat the team I was on, on the Tundra map. The player did 8 kills, and took out our last 3 tanks alone, and that with only about 75 hit-points left, till that player you're tale! ;)

Bordhaw #4 Posted 03 November 2019 - 05:13 PM

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View Postmiloshov84, on 03 November 2019 - 02:03 PM, said:

I would like to hear someone else opinion.

 

It's balanced. 



rsanders5 #5 Posted 03 November 2019 - 07:01 PM

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 It's British, what did you expect?

 



miloshov84 #6 Posted 03 November 2019 - 07:27 PM

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View Postrsanders5, on 03 November 2019 - 07:01 PM, said:

 It's British, what did you expect?

 

I expected to be useful in all games not only in tier VIII and lower. 

 

View Post890, on 03 November 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:

You have better results in Turtle then Obj 252U...

Yes, I do, not that this is related anyhow but 252U/Defender is useful in any tier game. This one is not.

 

View PostBordhaw, on 03 November 2019 - 05:13 PM, said:

 

It's balanced. 

Mate, thanks but you don't even have it... 

 

View Postmpf1959, on 03 November 2019 - 03:12 PM, said:

Yesterday, I saw a Turtle beat the team I was on, on the Tundra map. The player did 8 kills, and took out our last 3 tanks alone, and that with only about 75 hit-points left, till that player you're tale! ;)

Every 10 games I have one great one, but this does not change the fact that the other 9 are rubbish.

 

Thanks all.

 



Nishi_Kinuyo #7 Posted 03 November 2019 - 09:11 PM

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Milo, have you tried gitting gud before blaming a tank?

Or is this you?


Edited by Nishi_Kinuyo, 03 November 2019 - 09:12 PM.


_SpartanWarrior_ #8 Posted 03 November 2019 - 09:32 PM

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its perfectly balanced.

speed: Why? Most british tanks are slow,also every non-turreted TD tier6+ is slow for british,especially the Tortoise.

Tortoise=Turtle. Tortoise is slow,makes sense.

Penetration:Learn to aim and you will penetrate,learn some tricks. You got only 10k battles,so that could be the problem.

Accuracy: Sorry you want a tank with 1.2sec aim time and 0.25 dispersion at 100m? then go buy the Leopard 1. Its accuracy is fine,with modules its even better.

You do not need to own a tank to say if its good or not.

Also 6.33sec reload time,come on dude,330 alpha

Its perfecto balanced,its also not really meant to fight against HTs

Try to git gud before blaming a tank/wg for making it.

Conclusion: Some like the tank,some not. You cannot say; AHH ITS BAD DO NOT BUY IT!!!

long story short, git gud.

252u is not really very useful in all games.

Its very easy to not pen a tier X because of its mediocre accuracy

Edit:

Armor: Try to angle your tank,not just be 0*

it can rotate its gun by 20* so yeah. everything you listed here as bad is wrong.


Edited by _SpartanWarrior_, 03 November 2019 - 09:34 PM.


xx984 #9 Posted 04 November 2019 - 02:46 AM

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View Postmiloshov84, on 03 November 2019 - 06:27 PM, said:

but 252U/Defender is useful in any tier game.

hahahah

 

 

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

 

that's a good joke



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View Postxx984, on 04 November 2019 - 01:46 AM, said:

hahahah

 

 

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

 

that's a good joke

He isn't wrong though. The Defender/252U is a very tough cookie for a tier 8 heavy that can sometimes give even tier 9 heavies a run for their money with it's strong frontal armour and powerful gun. Sure, it's not 100% the best tank in the game but it's certainly not weak or under powered, especially when compared to other tier 8s and below.



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View PostSGT_Sprocket22, on 04 November 2019 - 11:56 AM, said:

He isn't wrong though. The Defender/252U is a very tough cookie for a tier 8 heavy that can sometimes give even tier 9 heavies a run for their money with it's strong frontal armour and powerful gun. Sure, it's not 100% the best tank in the game but it's certainly not weak or under powered, especially when compared to other tier 8s and below.

well its a hard nut to crack but still can be really useless.

still not okay to say "ahh do not buy this tank its bad" before gitting gud

turtle is a good tank afterall,and again OP is not right.

252u/def is NOT useful in every tier game.



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View Post_SpartanWarrior_, on 04 November 2019 - 06:40 PM, said:

well its a hard nut to crack but still can be really useless.

still not okay to say "ahh do not buy this tank its bad" before gitting gud

turtle is a good tank afterall,and again OP is not right.

252u/def is NOT useful in every tier game.

I'm not saying the other guy was wrong or that you are wrong either. I was only pointing out that the OP made a point that wasn't completely wrong. Please excuse my dyslexia for much long winded explanations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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View PostSGT_Sprocket22, on 04 November 2019 - 05:56 PM, said:

He isn't wrong though. The Defender/252U is a very tough cookie for a tier 8 heavy that can sometimes give even tier 9 heavies a run for their money with it's strong frontal armour and powerful gun. Sure, it's not 100% the best tank in the game but it's certainly not weak or under powered, especially when compared to other tier 8s and below.

Is it a decent tank? Sure. 

 

Ill get this out of the way now, The gun is bad. Alpha damage doesn't make it a good gun. Only ever really effective when right up in enemies faces, and even then its not reliable. 

 

Secondly. Its armour is only really good vs tier 8 standard ammo, and lower tiers. And even then its scattered with weakspots. Huge lowerplate being a weakspot for tier 8 tanks. the 2 pretty easy to hit cupolas and the ricochet spot on the gun mantle which any low tier tank can pen with ease. Which is amplified by the fact you have to get so close to even have a chance of hitting the enemies yourself making them even easier to hit and pen. 

 

The tank solely relies on the armour to work. Which when its top tier is good/average dependant on the map due to another restricting feature being the gun depression. But when its equal, or bottom tier can't hold up that well anyway unless the enemies shooting you have the mental capacity of a wet flannel. 

 

The 50TP Prototpye is a far superior tank. Just as good armour, Very similar gun, Extra gun depression, Harder to hit cupolas. Even a very old tank like the Lowe is better in most cases. Sure it sacrifices some armour, But it has a vastly superior gun. Even then the Lowe is still pretty bouncy if you put in some effort. 

 

 

The 252U is one of those tanks the community has completely over hyped, To the point where its actually pretty misleading for people looking at this when thinking of purchasing it expecting an OP tank. The same was done with the T26E5, E25, etc you get the picture. Sure none of those tanks are bad. But they certainly are not broken OP. 



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View Postxx984, on 05 November 2019 - 07:44 AM, said:

Is it a decent tank? Sure.

 

Ill get this out of the way now, The gun is bad. Alpha damage doesn't make it a good gun. Only ever really effective when right up in enemies faces, and even then its not reliable.

 

Secondly. Its armour is only really good vs tier 8 standard ammo, and lower tiers. And even then its scattered with weakspots. Huge lowerplate being a weakspot for tier 8 tanks. the 2 pretty easy to hit cupolas and the ricochet spot on the gun mantle which any low tier tank can pen with ease. Which is amplified by the fact you have to get so close to even have a chance of hitting the enemies yourself making them even easier to hit and pen.

 

The tank solely relies on the armour to work. Which when its top tier is good/average dependant on the map due to another restricting feature being the gun depression. But when its equal, or bottom tier can't hold up that well anyway unless the enemies shooting you have the mental capacity of a wet flannel.

 

The 50TP Prototpye is a far superior tank. Just as good armour, Very similar gun, Extra gun depression, Harder to hit cupolas. Even a very old tank like the Lowe is better in most cases. Sure it sacrifices some armour, But it has a vastly superior gun. Even then the Lowe is still pretty bouncy if you put in some effort.

 

 

The 252U is one of those tanks the community has completely over hyped, To the point where its actually pretty misleading for people looking at this when thinking of purchasing it expecting an OP tank. The same was done with the T26E5, E25, etc you get the picture. Sure none of those tanks are bad. But they certainly are not broken OP.

To be fair, I never said the 252U was OP.



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View PostSGT_Sprocket22, on 05 November 2019 - 08:57 AM, said:

To be fair, I never said the 252U was OP.

when i said OP, that part was more of a statement towards what the majority (At least the vocal majority) of what the community thinks :)


Edited by xx984, 05 November 2019 - 12:35 PM.


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View Postxx984, on 05 November 2019 - 01:44 AM, said:

Is it a decent tank? Sure. 

 

Ill get this out of the way now, The gun is bad. Alpha damage doesn't make it a good gun. Only ever really effective when right up in enemies faces, and even then its not reliable. 

 

Secondly. Its armour is only really good vs tier 8 standard ammo, and lower tiers. And even then its scattered with weakspots. Huge lowerplate being a weakspot for tier 8 tanks. the 2 pretty easy to hit cupolas and the ricochet spot on the gun mantle which any low tier tank can pen with ease. Which is amplified by the fact you have to get so close to even have a chance of hitting the enemies yourself making them even easier to hit and pen. 

 

The tank solely relies on the armour to work. Which when its top tier is good/average dependant on the map due to another restricting feature being the gun depression. But when its equal, or bottom tier can't hold up that well anyway unless the enemies shooting you have the mental capacity of a wet flannel. 

 

The 50TP Prototpye is a far superior tank. Just as good armour, Very similar gun, Extra gun depression, Harder to hit cupolas. Even a very old tank like the Lowe is better in most cases. Sure it sacrifices some armour, But it has a vastly superior gun. Even then the Lowe is still pretty bouncy if you put in some effort. 

 

 

The 252U is one of those tanks the community has completely over hyped, To the point where its actually pretty misleading for people looking at this when thinking of purchasing it expecting an OP tank. The same was done with the T26E5, E25, etc you get the picture. Sure none of those tanks are bad. But they certainly are not broken OP. 

exactly what i meant,its mainly useless against t9 and t10 games.

anyways this is a topic about turtle not 252u :teethhappy: its now clear,252u is only effective against t8 and lower tier games,just sometimes against t9.



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Can it swim?

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View PostMeetriX, on 05 November 2019 - 06:49 AM, said:

Can it swim?

too heavy



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View Post_SpartanWarrior_, on 06 November 2019 - 10:32 PM, said:

too heavy

Whales are too heavy, that's why they're aquatic animals.



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View PostMeetriX, on 06 November 2019 - 03:43 PM, said:

Whales are too heavy, that's why they're aquatic animals.

makes sense...

another reason this one has no air balloons (perhaps we can modify our tank and fill it with air such as fishes have?) and no fins...hehm..







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