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Ionutz3d #1 Posted 03 November 2019 - 05:38 PM

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Grind is very painfull Panther, Panther 2 Are 2 trash tanks. All line needs improves and buffs. The tier 9 gun is a joke for panther 2. E50 is playable but need improves. E50m need improves too.

_6i6_ #2 Posted 03 November 2019 - 05:43 PM

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View PostIonutz3d, on 03 November 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

Grind is very painfull Panther, Panther 2 Are 2 trash tanks. All line needs improves and buffs. The tier 9 gun is a joke for panther 2. E50 is playable but need improves. E50m need improves too.

im also kind of grinding the line but im trying to do it with blueprints and free xp to avoid playing the panther 2 :P



Ionutz3d #3 Posted 03 November 2019 - 05:54 PM

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german tanks are the best tanks in the world now and in ww1 and ww2 . One tiger 1 could kill 10 shermans in ww2 and 5 russians tanks so i dont understand why the wg dont respect the germans.

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View PostIonutz3d, on 03 November 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:

german tanks are the best tanks in the world now and in ww1 and ww2 . One tiger 1 could kill 10 shermans in ww2 and 5 russians tanks so i dont understand why the wg dont respect the germans.

you do realise that WG is a belarus-based company?

(located in Cyprus for tax evasion :P)


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View PostIonutz3d, on 03 November 2019 - 05:54 PM, said:

german tanks are the best tanks in the world now and in ww1 and ww2 . One tiger 1 could kill 10 shermans in ww2 and 5 russians tanks so i dont understand why the wg dont respect the germans.

 

Because WG is Belarusian, and we all know Belarus has strong ties to Russia. You really believe they'd make good German tanks in a game whose playerbase is mostly made up by Russians?



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View PostIonutz3d, on 03 November 2019 - 05:38 PM, said:

Grind is very painfull Panther, Panther 2 Are 2 trash tanks. All line needs improves and buffs. The tier 9 gun is a joke for panther 2. E50 is playable but need improves. E50m need improves too.


Panther 1 needs an alpha and shell velocity buff and panther 2 needs 300 more dpm and more horsepower.



Balc0ra #7 Posted 03 November 2019 - 06:13 PM

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View PostIonutz3d, on 03 November 2019 - 05:54 PM, said:

 One tiger 1 could kill 10 shermans in ww2 and 5 russians tanks so i dont understand why the wg dont respect the germans.

 

Yeah, but that changed when he faced his first IS and got smacked by his gun. As facing tier 5's all day is one thing that can pen you if they swarm you. It's a bit different when the enemy suddenly plays with +0 MM in WW II.

 

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undutchable80 #8 Posted 03 November 2019 - 09:04 PM

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Almost done with the Panther 2 and it's not as bad as I expected from reading peoples opinion on it. Sure it could use some buffs, but it's not the worst tank I have played. 

Hammerhead20 #9 Posted 03 November 2019 - 09:31 PM

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View Postundutchable80, on 03 November 2019 - 11:04 PM, said:

Almost done with the Panther 2 and it's not as bad as I expected from reading peoples opinion on it. Sure it could use some buffs, but it's not the worst tank I have played. 

 

Even with top gun Panther II is any better...

 

Reload time for 240 alpha damage is just way to long...

 

Yes, you get more "accuracy" which is a lie as we all know that... some extra penetration and aiming time.

 

But the main problem is armour and mobility of this thing...

 

I have way better results with Indien-Pz. than with this usless piece of trash...

 

And in general, Indien-Pz is definitely better vehicle than Panther II.



UserZer00 #10 Posted 03 November 2019 - 10:29 PM

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The choice between the pea shooter and the slow loading "boom stick" on the Panther II hasn't impressed me at all.  However, I still haven't tried the "boom stick", so my opinion may change.

 

Both the Panther and Panther II are fairly mobile, but way too big and easy to pen.

 

I actually have a pretty good win rate in the Panther II after about 50 games, but that's more been luck than performance.

 

The only good thing is that I haven't really been frustrated much by the penetration of the normal shells on the Panther and Panther II.  If they added a bit more damage then it might feel like they could actually contribute.

 

At my current rate I'll probably get the tier IX tank in about a week and I hope to unlock the tier X, but I most likely won't buy it.



snowlywhite #11 Posted 04 November 2019 - 11:51 AM

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I always thought the "german tanks" are bad to be some theory from all the tiger fanboys who are disappointed they don't steamroll in their tiger or panther. I think the lines are viable, but definitely not my style.

 

- Heavies? Work if you have a brain; but they're biiiig and slooow. And biiig...

- e50(which I've planned to grind)? I have enough to skip panther 2 btw. Well, the whole line is very weird for a med. ~7%(on average) base camo on the move? On a medium line? That's heavy camo level. Which is a big turnoff for me.

- leo? Seems too passive for me. Plus how many single shots meds can I grind...

- flipwagen - that's truly a bad line. British lights level of bad

 

td & arty - who cares...

 

the only thing I'd like on e50 line would be a more workable camo level. You can't play a medium which can't outspot anything...



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View Postsnowlywhite, on 04 November 2019 - 11:51 AM, said:

- e50(which I've planned to grind)? I have enough to skip panther 2 btw. Well, the whole line is very weird for a med. ~7%(on average) base camo on the move? On a medium line? That's heavy camo level. Which is a big turnoff for me.

 

Honestly i wouldn't put in the effort of grinding this line today. Despite loving my e50m, it's kinda out of meta today, better go for the leo.

 



Erwin_Von_Braun #13 Posted 04 November 2019 - 12:02 PM

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IIRC, the E50M like was the first line that I started when first playing the game.

Got a feeling it was my  first Tie X too.



pecopad #14 Posted 04 November 2019 - 12:16 PM

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View PostIonutz3d, on 03 November 2019 - 05:54 PM, said:

german tanks are the best tanks in the world now and in ww1 and ww2 . One tiger 1 could kill 10 shermans in ww2 and 5 russians tanks so i dont understand why the wg dont respect the germans.

 

Nop,German tanks were not the best, neither in WW1 nor in WW2. Tigers could kills lots of shermans because there were few Tigers and lots of Sherman and Russian tanks.

 

The Tiger had a big design flaw, they should have mounted the engine backwards so the Germans could retreat faster....

 

All in all, IMHO, only the Panther 2 grind is awful, like most of the medium tier 8's



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View Postpecopad, on 04 November 2019 - 11:16 AM, said:

 

Nop,German tanks were not the best, neither in WW1 nor in WW2. Tigers could kills lots of shermans because there were few Tigers and lots of Sherman and Russian tanks.

 

The Tiger had a big design flaw, they should have mounted the engine backwards so the Germans could retreat faster....

 

All in all, IMHO, only the Panther 2 grind is awful, like most of the medium tier 8's

So, if someone said 'Do you like a Tiger or a Sherman' you're telling me you would go for the Tommy Cooker?

 



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Even Tier 6 medium tanks can very easily pen a Panther II frontally with standard rounds. Not enjoying playing it at all.

Rati_Festa #17 Posted 04 November 2019 - 02:22 PM

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I thought I would repurchase the panther II, sort out the horrible WR I had on it ( 47% ), it was my first ever t8 tank.

 

It was bad 6/7 years ago, it's abysmal now. It has no armour, its sluggish and a poor DPM. The gap between the Panther II and the T44-100 is just laughable, the fact these 2 tanks have the same MM is a complete joke.

 

The highlight of the 15 games I played yesterday in it was ramming an IS3 for 300 damage.......

 

Why WG would be prompting players to play this line is beyond me, it can only cause yet more negative feedback.



strv_varjager #18 Posted 04 November 2019 - 02:50 PM

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Im playing the Panther cause there is some missions but i dont enjoy it a bit, its not a fun tank at all. This might be the first tank i dont enjoy being top tier i rather be bottom tier in a tier 8 game than top tier in a tier 5 game. I have a hard time seeing its strength except the one trick pony RoF which is situational. I mean when i play my Caernarvon its great when i get in a situation when i can maximize my RoF but i dont have to play around my RoF but its there when i need it.

 

Panther gun handling is overrated aiming time feels alot longer than it should, maybe its the low dmg which makes it crucial to pen every hit. Everytime im not shooting and penning with the Panther im just a big fat weight dragging down my team.


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Hammerhead20 #19 Posted 04 November 2019 - 06:04 PM

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Panther I is actually OK at tier VII.

 

But Panther II...

 

It's a complete failure after playing with tier VII counterpart... 

 

I already want to quit the grind... I can't make this piece of trash work...

 

Can't even deal 2,000 damage per battle because of German "accuracy" and usless armour layout...

 

I have some blueprints stuff to use... I think its the only way to get rid of this horrible desease... 

 

 



pecopad #20 Posted 04 November 2019 - 06:39 PM

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View PostHammerhead20, on 04 November 2019 - 06:04 PM, said:

Panther I is actually OK at tier VII.

 

But Panther II...

 

It's a complete failure after playing with tier VII counterpart... 

 

I already want to quit the grind... I can't make this piece of trash work...

 

Can't even deal 2,000 damage per battle because of German "accuracy" and usless armour layout...

 

I have some blueprints stuff to use... I think its the only way to get rid of this horrible desease... 

 

 


Panther II is really bad, so is the Indien Panzer, just grinded both last month... but most of the old tanks have bad grinds in tier 8.


E50 is very competitive stock, which is very good.






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