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HE is not the problem, armor and mm is

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sgtYester #1 Posted 08 November 2019 - 11:59 PM


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Hi all,


HE rebalance is just wrong and simply a result of to much armor and +2mm


when i play i like to use normal ammo, cheap and gets the job done... normally


Now thanks to bad MM +2 I meet tanks i cant pen with normal ammo and half the time p2w ammo does not work either. So i swith to HE shells to at least do some damage.


and it seems that a lot of ppl follow the same reasoning.




so Instead of rebalancing HE which is working fine for tanks ( for arty they need to do 1/3 damage since they already stun and knock out modules, its a support class afterall)


wg should focus on better mm with 90% in the +1/-1 range.


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Propjesschieter #2 Posted 09 November 2019 - 12:07 AM


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Nope, remove arty. and then balance MM

Balc0ra #3 Posted 09 November 2019 - 12:24 AM

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View PostsgtYester, on 08 November 2019 - 11:59 PM, said:


wg should focus on better mm with 90% in the +1/-1 range.


ur thoughts?


Most of the HE spam I see is vs equal tiers. Tier X HT's vs tier X HT's. Or the more common sub 200 pen HT's on tier 8 vs the VK 100.01 etc. +1 MM doesn't help if the IS-6 and T32 or the VK A can't deal with equal tier armor head-on at the perfect angle after the "everything will have 220mm weak spots" meta that will be 250 more so then not with a 186 pen gun, or 217 gold ammo. They should focus on looking at pre super heavy meta guns, vs waiting for the gold ammo balance or doing HE first tbh.

Wintermute_1 #4 Posted 09 November 2019 - 01:24 AM


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I think it's WG all over that they nerf accuracy to make armour more effective then a couple of years later conclude that people are firing too much HE and that's the problem that needs fixing. 

NUKLEAR_SLUG #5 Posted 09 November 2019 - 08:12 AM

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Players are the problem. When the players thought they were getting penned too often they demanded more effective armour. When WG buffed armour players just fired more gold to compensate. When players thought they were getting penned by gold too often they started playing superheavy/hull downers so others started firing HE to compensate. Now we have players crying that they get hit by HE because they can't just sit there hull down with a near impenetrable turret anymore. 


It's not the game mechanics that need to change, it's player expectations. Players are the problem. 

Richthoffen #6 Posted 09 November 2019 - 08:50 AM


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MM is fine as it is, the 3-5-7 template needs to be removed, HE for some tanks needs to be toned down a bit so oneshots are rare

GodTank2 #7 Posted 09 November 2019 - 09:33 AM

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If you cant pen a 2+ tier tank with gold then i very much doubt HE does more than 100 damage

Bordhaw #8 Posted 09 November 2019 - 12:08 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 09 November 2019 - 07:12 AM, said:

Players are the problem. 



View PostsgtYester, on 08 November 2019 - 10:59 PM, said:

ur thoughts?



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