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Hellfoxe #1 Posted 11 November 2019 - 12:19 PM

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If wg release the double barrel tanks would it be a huge game changer in battles or not. 

shikaka9 #2 Posted 11 November 2019 - 12:24 PM

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of course... like a dude with one knife vs. dude with two knives :P

Hellfoxe #3 Posted 11 November 2019 - 12:27 PM

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View Postshikaka9, on 11 November 2019 - 12:24 PM, said:

of course... like a dude with one knife vs. dude with two knives :P

 

I understand but in 1vs1 battle I can think if noob play with double barrel against a veteran players would he still win against double barrel or not in 1vs1.



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Probably not no, its not massively higher alpha than a TD uses on those tiers, but with a much worse reload and double the issues of RNG going on, plus the ability to derp one shot into a wall when peaking because you haven't cleared enough room for both barrels. 

 

Expect to see bad players struggle IMO, they will overcommit/yolo like they do with autoloaders, might be the odd annoying moment but probably will see a lot of these tanks get farmed for their overconfidence. 



Chuwt #5 Posted 11 November 2019 - 01:19 PM

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This to me is a change that does not need to be made.

As far as i am aware, no double barreled tank as such as ever seen action as a tank (I discount a few anti aircraft setups, which may on occasion been used in a ground combat role, but were not intended for, or designed for such a role.) , and I suspect there is a good reason for this, as the extra complexity, weight, expense and overcrowding of the turret is much more of a disadvantage than any possible advantage gained.

WG seems to have put a large amount of time and effort into something that only increases the fantasy level of the game. If they prove to be good, they will be all over the place, likely causing a further balance problem, if bad nobody will play them, and it will be wasted effort : to me, this is a lose; lose situation.

 



Balc0ra #6 Posted 11 November 2019 - 01:20 PM

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IMO no. I suspect the impact will be the same as when clip guns came, or when the Italians came. Most will notice it early on, most will try it early on, most will complain about it early on. And then it will die or even out with time. I suspect like the Italians they will be situational strong vs broken. As in you can't win every fight by going full clip instantly making your DPM drop by then going only on the 1st shot. But bad players did and died shortly after as they can't keep up with the target anymore.

 

So I doubt everyone will go double shot all the time for it to matter that much. Even more so if the high tiers do keep their 40 sec reload for it.

 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 11 November 2019 - 01:21 PM.


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View PostChuwt, on 11 November 2019 - 12:19 PM, said:

This to me is a change that does not need to be made.

As far as i am aware, no double barreled tank as such as ever seen action as a tank (I discount a few anti aircraft setups, which may on occasion been used in a ground combat role, but were not intended for, or designed for such a role.) , and I suspect there is a good reason for this, as the extra complexity, weight, expense and overcrowding of the turret is much more of a disadvantage than any possible advantage gained.

WG seems to have put a large amount of time and effort into something that only increases the fantasy level of the game. If they prove to be good, they will be all over the place, likely causing a further balance problem, if bad nobody will play them, and it will be wasted effort : to me, this is a lose; lose situation.

 

Most of the tanks in this game are pure fantasy or at least the figment of someones imagination on a drawing board. However these double barrels will probably only have any real effect in the hands of good players, not me! I can see these going the same way as wheelies and artys with half the player base calling for their removal the minute they are introduced. 



Jethro_Grey #8 Posted 11 November 2019 - 02:14 PM

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Basically what Balc0ra said.

After the release they will be strong as everyone need time to adapt, after that not so much. 

 

Now, we have auto(re)loading tanks, and we'll get double barreled tanks. 

How long until we get auto(re)loading double barreled tanks? ^^ 



Dava_117 #9 Posted 11 November 2019 - 02:30 PM

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Last time we had news from the supertest, they looked balanced. Will add a new mechanic but will hardly be game changing IMO. 

Yes, you have 2 guns, but you have like 11 seconds reload for each gun and like 5 seconds to switch between the guns. You see that this means that firing with the second gun as soon as available will drop your DPM a lot, same with the double shot so you will use those chance just in certain situation, being like a standard tank during 80-90% of the battle time.


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View PostJethro_Grey, on 11 November 2019 - 01:14 PM, said:

Basically what Balc0ra said.

After the release they will be strong as everyone need time to adapt, after that not so much. 

 

Now, we have auto(re)loading tanks, and we'll get double barreled tanks. 

How long until we get auto(re)loading double barreled tanks? ^^ 

Auto reloading double barrelled arty!!!!



Inappropriate_noob #11 Posted 11 November 2019 - 02:40 PM

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Game changing in the same way as wheelie bins are?

 

Just another annoying things to lookout for, but now if we were to have a twin barreled TOG,hell yeah, WG take my money:D



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View PostFizzymagic, on 11 November 2019 - 01:33 PM, said:

Auto reloading double barrelled arty!!!!

Auto reloading double barrelled wheeled arty!!!



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View PostFizzymagic, on 11 November 2019 - 02:41 PM, said:

Auto reloading double barrelled wheeled arty!!!

...amphibious and flying..?



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I think it really adds something new to the game, which is really nice!

Giving low tier tanks a run for their money :izmena:



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View PostMiepie, on 11 November 2019 - 02:43 PM, said:

...amphibious and flying..?


Flying? No. But, since arty players seem to magically drawn to every puddle to drown themselfs in, i'd say amphibious: yes. 

 

Infact, arty could have ballast tanks to dive while on reload and to prevent being killed. 

Whenever their double barreled auto(re)loading guns have reloaded, they surface, unload and dive again. 

 

I guess, whoever is left, after a lot of players finally have a reason to un install, will have tons of fun. ^^



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View PostMr_Bator, on 11 November 2019 - 01:51 PM, said:

I think it really adds something new to the game, which is really nice!

Giving low tier tanks a run for their money :izmena:

 

I'm not too keen on the dozer blade on the premium version on the RU server.

 

d5-FW-1l-Nj7-Hfr-Je-D-s-Pduv-S9u-U-c-X-W

 

The rest looks fine.........:trollface:



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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 11 November 2019 - 02:02 PM, said:

 

I'm not too keen on the dozer blade on the premium version on the RU server.

 

d5-FW-1l-Nj7-Hfr-Je-D-s-Pduv-S9u-U-c-X-W

 

The rest looks fine.........:trollface:

You knocked that up quick!



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Game changer with double barrel tanks?


Edited by Stevies_Team, 11 November 2019 - 03:07 PM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #19 Posted 11 November 2019 - 03:09 PM

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No doubt there will be those that get smacked around by one the first day and feel the need to tell the world that the game has been utterly broken by them but they aren't going to be a game changer. Just treat them like every other high alpha TD and assume they've got two loaded and don't step in front of them until you confirm otherwise. 

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Block Quote

 

I'm not too keen on the dozer blade on the premium version on the RU server.

 

d5-FW-1l-Nj7-Hfr-Je-D-s-Pduv-S9u-U-c-X-W

 

The rest looks fine.........:trollface:

 

 


Edited by Warzey, 11 November 2019 - 03:12 PM.





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