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Which 100mm gun do you recommend?

  1. 100 mm D-54 (5 votes [41.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.67%

  2. 100 mm D-10T2S (7 votes [58.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.33%

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undutchable80 #1 Posted 12 November 2019 - 08:55 AM

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Hiya tankers!

 

I know we have an "in-game vehicles"  section, but that seems to be frequented by only a small handful of the forumites, so I post my question here. 

 

As per title; which gun do you use and what is your ammo loadout?

 

201mm with better DPM or 219 for the (still underwhelming for T9 MT) base pen? Both HEAT pen are the same, so I can see an argument for "go full gold" using the higher DPM gun, but I like to challenge myself by trying to make the base ammo work.

 

After having bought 7 tanks this past weekend, I have just enough freexp left to buy one of the two guns, so your voting and elaborating is much appreciated!

 

Regards,

Dutch

 

@mods: please leave this topic in the Gameplay section for 24hrs before moving it to the appropriate in-game vehicles section. Thanks. :great:



tumppi776 #2 Posted 12 November 2019 - 09:03 AM

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200mm pen one with plenty of gold.

Edited by tumppi776, 12 November 2019 - 09:08 AM.


TheDrownedApe #3 Posted 12 November 2019 - 09:04 AM

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higher DPM and more gold

DuncaN_101 #4 Posted 12 November 2019 - 09:09 AM

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Either but toon with another heat54 and wolf pack all over the place.

Oke nvm me I haven't played my t54 in ages so I have no idea what good it is these days.

splash_time #5 Posted 12 November 2019 - 09:26 AM

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View Postundutchable80, on 12 November 2019 - 10:55 AM, said:

Hiya tankers!

 

I know we have an "in-game vehicles"  section, but that seems to be frequented by only a small handful of the forumites, so I post my question here. 

 

As per title; which gun do you use and what is your ammo loadout?

 

201mm with better DPM or 219 for the (still underwhelming for T9 MT) base pen? Both HEAT pen are the same, so I can see an argument for "go full gold" using the higher DPM gun, but I like to challenge myself by trying to make the base ammo work.

 

After having bought 7 tanks this past weekend, I have just enough freexp left to buy one of the two guns, so your voting and elaborating is much appreciated!

 

Regards,

Dutch

 

@mods: please leave this topic in the Gameplay section for 24hrs before moving it to the appropriate in-game vehicles section. Thanks. :great:

 

I haven't played T54 yet but I'll definitely choose DPM over anything else, with more gold ammo consideration. 


Edited by splash_time, 12 November 2019 - 09:28 AM.


fwhaatpiraat #6 Posted 12 November 2019 - 09:30 AM

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I started with the low dpm gun, didn't satisfy. Switched to the high dpm gun and never changed it back. The high dpm fits the russian bias image much better.

Negativvv #7 Posted 12 November 2019 - 09:45 AM

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Tried the higher pen gun and it sucked.

 

Take lower pen one with plenty of Gold, then understand why it's the HeaT-54 :B



undutchable80 #8 Posted 12 November 2019 - 10:11 AM

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View Posttumppi776, on 12 November 2019 - 09:03 AM, said:

200mm pen one with plenty of gold.

 

View PostTheDrownedApe, on 12 November 2019 - 09:04 AM, said:

higher DPM and more gold

 

View Postsplash_time, on 12 November 2019 - 09:26 AM, said:

 

I haven't played T54 yet but I'll definitely choose DPM over anything else, with more gold ammo consideration. 

 

View PostNegativvv, on 12 November 2019 - 09:45 AM, said:

Tried the higher pen gun and it sucked.

 

Take lower pen one with plenty of Gold, then understand why it's the HeaT-54 :B

Higher DPM gun seems to be the general consensus. :teethhappy: What are your loadouts? 25/25/0? 10/35/5? :justwait:



TheDrownedApe #9 Posted 12 November 2019 - 10:21 AM

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20/24/6

TungstenHitman #10 Posted 12 November 2019 - 10:26 AM

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D-10 all the way imho. Both guns are very viable but the "sniper" rifle is pretty bad at ranged shooting, doesn't feel like it has the faster aim it has on paper, doesn't suit this style of armored bully tank and if you want to do that get yourself a Leopard or Standard B(I have both and adore bore of these tanks btw) which are both infinitely better at the long range game.

 

Once you understand the T-54 is a mid-close quarters dpm tank that should most definitely be bullying, chasing, baiting shots, face hugging and harassing other tanks, it becomes clear the D-10, with a hefty amount of HEAT, is the only weapon of choice for this mobile yet well armored bully tank.

 

When both options are pimped out with decent crew and food, the difference is 3.8k dpm vs 2.8k dpm, that is massive and and exactly what you want when scrapping close quarters with other meds and in towns etc. The D-10, will pop a shot every 5 seconds while the D54 will lag behind massively with a 6.73 reload. Don't think in terms of one shot either, with a T-54 loaded up with HEAT and working a corner or down a flank like Abbey or the town in Lakeville etc, you are gunning non stop and this almost 2 second faster reload accumulates very quickly to become a huge performance difference. 

 

With that DPM, pen, armor and agility, when a T-54 is fighting on it's terms, how a T-54 should be fighting, a close quarters bully sort of a game, there's not a Leopard, Standard B or any other same tier med I can think of that can live with a T-54 in a straight up fire fire and brawl. You're basically giving the other guy more time to try and deal with you when you take the slower loading gun since you're not shredding through his hp and creating openings for him to try work a "shot for shot" exchange. DPM gun also has more gun dep and so your exposure to enemy tanks on hills like China and El Haluf brawl corner, reduces your exposure to just your turret, hides a lot of the cupolas and gets the gun pointing at enemy hull instead of just the turret. Overall it's no contest really. 

 

Edit- if you're a F2P player, ya maybe the better standard pen of the D54 is worth considering but... its a bad limited tank at that tbh and F2P with a Leopard instead with its huge standard pen and rail gun. Don't have complaints the results aren't there, the gun isn't great just for a little more standard pen which still isn't high enough to worry most tanks. 


Edited by TungstenHitman, 12 November 2019 - 10:28 AM.


Laukaus #11 Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:19 AM

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D54 without question. If success of a T-54 driver or his team is dependent of 1 round/minute difference in T-54 ROF, then there is something terribly wrong.  

 

 

Loadout: 30  X AP, 10 x HE, 10 x HEAT. 



__Eric__ #12 Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:23 AM

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You are a Dinger, ofcourse the DPM gun with plenty of gold!!! :)

splash_time #13 Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:34 AM

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View Post__Eric__, on 12 November 2019 - 01:23 PM, said:

You are a Dinger, ofcourse the DPM gun with plenty of gold!!! :)

 

Yuuup



Miepie #14 Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:47 AM

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 12 November 2019 - 10:26 AM, said:


 

 

When both options are pimped out with decent crew and food, the difference is 3.8k dpm vs 2.8k dpm, that is massive and and exactly what you want when scrapping close quarters with other meds and in towns etc. The D-10, will pop a shot every 5 seconds while the D54 will lag behind massively with a 6.73 reload.

Hmm? I think I am missing something in your calculations? If I equip the D54-flavour on tanks.gg so that it has a 6.73 second reload (rammer, vents, food, BiA) and put that exact same setup on the D10-flavour, I end up with a 5.86 sec reload?



barison1 #15 Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:49 AM

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am i the only one who really enjoyed the sniper gun here :hiding:

 

dpm seemed pretty solid still and yet able to hit longer ranges, AP pen pretty decent so not needed to spam gold all time



Desyatnik_Pansy #16 Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:49 AM

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View Postbarison1, on 12 November 2019 - 10:49 AM, said:

am i the only one who really enjoyed the sniper gun here :hiding:

 

dpm seemed pretty solid still and yet able to hit longer ranges, AP pen pretty decent so not needed to spam gold all time

 

Shush now baru.



barison1 #17 Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:51 AM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 12 November 2019 - 11:49 AM, said:

 

Shush now baru.


no u shush pantsu



8126Jakobsson #18 Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:51 AM

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View Postbarison1, on 12 November 2019 - 11:49 AM, said:

am i the only one who really enjoyed the sniper gun here :hiding:

 

dpm seemed pretty solid still and yet able to hit longer ranges, AP pen pretty decent so not needed to spam gold all time

 

Played it two days ago and thought that the "sniper" option was derpy enough. :child:



samuelx43a #19 Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:54 AM

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Well, as you know, before they changed how the guns go about in the T-54, the D10T2S was the superior option, as it had the gun handling advantage. As soon as the rework hit though, I instantly changed to the D-54. Why? because for me, it had much better handling, and it also had better pen(I am a dinger indeed, but I would rather use standard rounds whenever possible.

 

Basically, I personally recommend the D-54 gun, if you don't mind sacrificing a bit of DPM. By all means go gold in the other gun tho, lol



barison1 #20 Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:54 AM

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View Post8126Jakobsson, on 12 November 2019 - 11:51 AM, said:

 

Played it two days ago and thought that the "sniper" option was derpy enough. :child:


meanwhile to me the 200 pen gun felt like a potato launcher, then again my tank preferences are.. odd to say in the least







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