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Supercon22 #1 Posted 12 November 2019 - 02:09 PM

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Hey.

 

Why is APCR still in the game?

 

It's pay to win.

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I can afford about 5 APCR rounds before I start losing credits. People with premium accounts and lots of money can afford a lot more and have a huge advantage over free to players.

 

It's not fun to lose a battle because some guy has premium and I don't.

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Inb4 "APCR is fair and balanced" - dumfuk 2019

Homer_J #2 Posted 12 November 2019 - 02:24 PM

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1. Don't get shot.

 

2. APCR is standard ammo for many tanks.

 

3. Don't get shot.

 

4. Premium ammo is fair and balanced.



BravelyRanAway #3 Posted 12 November 2019 - 02:33 PM

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View PostSupercon22, on 12 November 2019 - 01:09 PM, said:

I can afford about 5 APCR rounds before I start losing credits. People with premium accounts and lots of money can afford a lot more and have a huge advantage over free to players.

Deal with it like you did on your main.

 



Supercon22 #4 Posted 12 November 2019 - 02:39 PM

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Homer_J #5 Posted 12 November 2019 - 02:56 PM

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View PostSupercon22, on 12 November 2019 - 02:39 PM, said:

 

I challenge you to play your next 100 battles without APCR or HEAT. I bet you're too much of a pussy to though.


Would you like me to also run a marathon after chopping off my right leg?

 

Premium ammo is there to be used and as long as it is I will use it.

 

And don't come with the old "autoaim and win" rubbish, I bounce premium shells as much as standard when I take the Maus out.



Homer_J #6 Posted 12 November 2019 - 03:33 PM

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View PostSupercon22, on 12 November 2019 - 02:58 PM, said:

 

You just proved that it isn't fair or balanced.

 

I see, so running a marathon with both legs intact is considered cheating.  I shall bear that in mind the next time I consider running one.... nah forget that it isn't going to happen anyway.



BR33K1_PAWAH #7 Posted 12 November 2019 - 04:14 PM

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:D

 


MeetriX #8 Posted 12 November 2019 - 04:39 PM

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Play SPGs. :hiding:

Gremlin182 #9 Posted 12 November 2019 - 04:59 PM

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Its the usual rubbish argument there are plenty of tanks we meet than can and do destroy our tanks with standard ammo.

Premium ammo is just a name same as the old gold ammo its still just a shell and its a little pointless to start the argument again given change is coming.

 

Remove it completely and some tanks will not get played only those competitive with standard ammo will be played.

Tanks will get rebalanced to make them competitive again and its back to square one being killed only with standard ammo.

Stock tanks will remain a real pain to play so maybe changes will be made there too.

 

Limit the number pf premium that can be carried will make little or no difference because we do not actually know the level of premium ammo.

When you get shot and killed by premium shells do you know if those were the only ones he carried or if he has all premium.

15 enemy tanks each with 5 shells is enough to kill the other team so why bother limiting them.

Some tanks need premium more than others due to low pen for their tier others need none at all.

 

Still a bogus arument wait for the changes coming next year and then complain



jack_timber #10 Posted 12 November 2019 - 05:02 PM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 12 November 2019 - 01:33 PM, said:

Deal with it like you did on your main.

 

What someone posts with an alt account, whatever is the world coming to.....:)



UrQuan #11 Posted 12 November 2019 - 08:15 PM

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Full APCR spam. Do tell what the Emil II who only has APCR as shell choice had to shoot at me? 

 

The game has changed. Many of the newer armored tanks are now balanced around premium shells, whether you like it or not (and it is ugly for the older armored tanks). Removal of weakspots also killed off a major reason to attempt to damage an armored tank by shooting standard shells.(which can be APCR! Quite some higher tiers have APCR as standard shell!) 

 

Wat less prem ammo spam? Advocate for more balanced armor layouts & the return of weakspots. Until then: prem ammo spam will be in the game. More drawback to prem ammo beyond cost won't hurt either on the condition that (very heavy) armored tanks also get looked at to balance them better into the game after such change.



Orkbert #12 Posted 12 November 2019 - 08:21 PM

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 I challenge you to play your next 100 battles without APCR or HEAT. I bet you're too much of a pussy to though.

 

Given your join date you should have the Pz. II D in your garage yet your profile shows zero battles with it. Now who is the pussy?

 



SupremeMaster #13 Posted 12 November 2019 - 08:58 PM

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The problem is actually not ''apcr'' itself it is the ''premium apcr'' Some tanks for example patton and ax have standard apcrs with their standard tier X pen values. You have a good amount of luck to bounce them since they only have 2 degrees of normalization so you try to use ur side armor for that. But then there is premium apcr with 325-6 pen like s  conq and amx 50b apcrs. And their calibers are 120mm so they just need to hit a non angled side of an armor to penetrate and voila! Target has been hit tracks gone ammorack gone and 400 hp gone. For example sometimes people generalize heat as godtier ammo adn then they play ikv103 and deal with standard heat and their faces after battles are precious. But yet again just like the guys above said. They might increase some peoples stat by %1 but they are not easy to use and those ammunition need aiming. It is bad that it removes turret armor from e100 maus etc but you can still angle ur armor and bounce those shells. Thats why top tier meds have apcrs for close range and heat for sniping. Its a balancing factor. For example some tanks with standard and premium ap have not much penetration increase because ap with too much pen increase would be brutal since ap is the best overall ammo in the game.

Bordhaw #14 Posted 12 November 2019 - 10:12 PM

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View PostSupercon22, on 12 November 2019 - 01:09 PM, said:

Hey.

 

Why is APCR still in the game?

 

It's pay to win.

13:14 Added after 4 minute

I can afford about 5 APCR rounds before I start losing credits. People with premium accounts and lots of money can afford a lot more and have a huge advantage over free to players.

 

It's not fun to lose a battle because some guy has premium and I don't.

13:14 Added after 5 minute
Inb4 "APCR is fair and balanced" - dumfuk 2019

 



Echotun #15 Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:53 PM

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View PostOrkbert, on 12 November 2019 - 08:21 PM, said:

 

Given your join date you should have the Pz. II D in your garage yet your profile shows zero battles with it. Now who is the pussy?

 


That is the strangest post Ive seen on this forum... well, ever really #confused



Zirakss #16 Posted 13 November 2019 - 12:29 AM

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Well ... it's simple. Some tanks you can't penetrate without them. The higher you get, the more your opponents hit the "2 for skill" key.

johncl #17 Posted 13 November 2019 - 12:57 AM

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Play tanks that don't rely on armour ..tanks that have there strong points elsewhere ...then it wont matter if they shoot gold cos the will pen you without it 

 

Play the T50 T20 Udes 

 

 



maize2 #18 Posted 14 November 2019 - 09:38 AM

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There are few tanks that rely on armor thickness alone.

Meds/lights generally dont do frontal engagements.

TD's usually dont need gold.

 

But if you inssist on playing hevies just play the russian is-7 or 277 line. With those angles and spaced side armor most of the time you are better off shooting AP.



SteVer1n0 #19 Posted 16 November 2019 - 05:34 PM

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This is a poor troll, the real ammo to cry about is cHEAT, because I can pen your cheese turret roofs with it. On the off chance that this is a real post I suggest OP learns about autobounce angles and baiting shots into tracks/bad angles.

 

I am actually more upset in random battles when somebody pens me with standard AP than prem APCR - either I misplayed very badly or they rolled high on pen - which are both equally upsetting for different reasons.



Ragnaguard #20 Posted 17 November 2019 - 03:30 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 12 November 2019 - 03:24 PM, said:

1. Don't get shot.

 

2. APCR is standard ammo for many tanks.

 

3. Don't get shot.

 

4. Premium ammo is fair and balanced.

ahahahhaha #4 rocks! one of the best jokes i ve ever comed across for this game! u also forgot to mention that only advantage of gold ammo is the skill of the one who uses it






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