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jabster #1 Posted 12 November 2019 - 08:03 PM

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I finally succumbed and traded in my LTTB, which I was rubbish at, for the T-54 Lwt. I've only played four games but so far I'm enjoying it. Now where's that question I wanted to ask. I'm trying to play it as a mobile scout/medium hybrid, is that the right thing to do or is there another way to play it. Any ideas on equipment as currently I've gone for optics/vstab/gun rammer?

XxKuzkina_MatxX #2 Posted 12 November 2019 - 08:13 PM

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That's the right play style. Use your good camo and mobility to get close where you can spot and take easy shots. Easy shots as in close distance since its accuracy isn't that great (0.4 stock).

 

Your equipment setup (rammer, v-stabs vents and optics) is good and ideally you'd have a crew fully trained with 6th sense, BIA, camo and repairs. The rest of the skills help too but those are essential.


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Idk. Didn't liked it, decided that i've had enough of that crap that WG turned scouts in, and sold it.

Good luck with yours  :trollface:

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View Postjabster, on 12 November 2019 - 10:03 PM, said:

Any ideas on equipment as currently I've gone for optics/vstab/gun rammer?

Played it with vents over vert stab, as dumb as it sounds it had enough stabilization with that, but this is insignificant tbh.



jabster #4 Posted 12 November 2019 - 08:36 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 12 November 2019 - 07:13 PM, said:

That's the right play style. Use your good camo and mobility to get close where you can spot and take easy shots. Easy shots as in close distance since its accuracy isn't that great (0.4 stock).

 

Your equipment setup (rammer, v-stabs and optics) is good and ideally you'd have a crew fully trained with 6th sense, BIA, camo and repairs. The rest of the skills help too but those are essential.


I did spend my free exp. so elite besides the radio. As for the crew, it’s my old T-50-2 crew - four skilled including BIA, camo and sixth sense.

 

The gun, so far I like it. A bit of a punch and seems to hit for me.


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I have one but it's difficult to play. As the gun accuracy is so awful you are forced into medium or even close range fighting. This is dangerous and takes no prisoners but is also rewarding.

 

People can city brawl in but it's not my style of LT. I much prefer the T49 with its 90mm gun as that's capable at all ranges.



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 12 November 2019 - 07:13 PM, said:

That's the right play style. Use your good camo and mobility to get close where you can spot and take easy shots. Easy shots as in close distance since its accuracy isn't that great (0.4 stock).

 

Your equipment setup (rammer, v-stabs and optics) is good and ideally you'd have a crew fully trained with 6th sense, BIA, camo and repairs. The rest of the skills help too but those are essential.

Everything Else i agree but repairs on lighttank? Isnt there much More important skills like mobility and gunhandling skills to pick than repairs?



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View Post_Potato_from_Poland, on 12 November 2019 - 08:38 PM, said:

Everything Else i agree but repairs on lighttank? Isnt there much More important skills like mobility and gunhandling skills to pick than repairs?


T-54 ltw. already has excellent gun handling (to a point you can question using v.stab because you only gain 0,01/0,02 better dispersion from it...) so improving it with skills/perks is secondary choice. Repair are important because tracked light tank = dead light tank and repairs allow you to escape without dying if your repair kit is on cooldown. BiA, camo, view range skills, then repairs. Everything else is just added bonus.



Lanrefni #8 Posted 12 November 2019 - 09:08 PM

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just look at all soviet LTs as discount mediums of their respective tiers and keep your expectations rather low. You won't be disappointed. 

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View Postjabster, on 12 November 2019 - 11:36 PM, said:

I did spend my free exp. so elite besides the radio. As for the crew, it’s my old T-50-2 crew - four skilled including BIA, camo and sixth sense.

 

The gun, so far I like it. A bit of a punch and seems to hit for me.

 

That's very good. Playing a tier 9 light tank stock can be painful. I did forget to mention view range skills in my first post but FatigueGalaxy did a better job.

 

  • With optics and BIA only you'll get 438m view range which is bad for a tier 9 light.
  • With optics, BIA and both view range skills (recon and SA) you'll get 460m, good enough.
  • With optics, vents and both view range skills you'll get 470m.

 

I suggest going with rammer, optics and vents as the better setup. I can calculate the exact bonus of using v-stabs vs. vents but i already know from the formula that: vents will never beat v-stabs when it comes to gun handling (shooting on the move). The advantage you get in the dispersion on the move outweigh the aim time + accuracy bonus from vents. But the improvements from v-stabs are not really significant for this particular tank since it's already very good (0.08, 0.08 and 0.06 stock).


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jabster #10 Posted 13 November 2019 - 08:17 AM

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Thanks for all the answers guys and I’m probably going to change the vents for vstab. I’ve only played six games but so far I just feel less like a rabbit caught in headlights than I did when I played the LTTB.

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T-54 ltwt is among the few tier 9 tanks that actually lead to a better tank tier by tier - T100 LT.

 

It's a nerfed T-54. And T-54 is a nerfed T-55A.

 

T-54 ltwt is still a fun tank to play but it feels impotent when compared to tanks like AMX 13 90, which have the clip at tier 9. The idea of an armored light tank was solid maybe in 2012 when just about every tier 9 tank didn't have 250mm of pen or over as standard. Now they do.

 

YMMV of course.


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View PostTankkiPoju, on 13 November 2019 - 07:36 AM, said:

T-54 ltwt is among the few tier 9 tanks that actually lead to a better tank tier by tier - T100 LT.

 

It's a nerfed T-54. And T-54 is a nerfed T-55A.

 

T-54 ltwt is still a fun tank to play but it feels impotent when compared to tanks like AMX 13 90, which have the clip at tier 9. The idea of an armored light tank was solid maybe in 2012 when just about every tier 9 tank didn't have 250mm of pen or over as standard. Now they do.

 

YMMV of course.


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Play it as a more active spotter at the start and in the second half you are basically a medium with better mobility and view range.

 

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ilmavarvas #14 Posted 13 November 2019 - 11:01 AM

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My favourite light tank, well, OFC T49 with derp has some fun moments, but T-54 Light is more constant. I use rammer, optics and vents - by the time you should start shooting, you don't need that much stabilization tbh. Mobility is superb and when ziggling and wiggling while driving full speed, you actually get some nice bounces, especially useful when going against lights with clips - make them ding one or two shots and you'll just eat them with your DPM.

 



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View PostCobra6, on 13 November 2019 - 09:51 AM, said:

Play it as a more active spotter at the start and in the second half you are basically a medium with better mobility and view range.

 

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That’s kinda what I’m trying to do and I feel that having are more forgiving MM means my mistakes are punished less.



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View Postjabster, on 13 November 2019 - 10:24 AM, said:


That’s kinda what I’m trying to do and I feel that having are more forgiving MM means my mistakes are punished less.


Well, the only thing I don't like about the T-54lwt is that it seems to have the camo of a medium tank when I play it. It gets spotted very easily.

It's fun but it doesn't play much like a traditional light tank (long range engagement and good camo to get around unseen).

 

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View PostCobra6, on 13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM, said:

Well, the only thing I don't like about the T-54lwt is that it seems to have the camo of a medium tank when I play it. It gets spotted very easily.

 

Funnily 430U has better stationary camo than T54 ltwt. Because reasons.

 

But this is also the reason why IMHO T100 LT is a better tank than T54 ltwt. T100 LT also has 300 alpha, which is a huge bonus in end game situations.


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View PostTankkiPoju, on 13 November 2019 - 01:21 PM, said:

 

T100 LT also has 300 alpha, which is a huge bonus in end game situations.

if huge was defined as 300, and not 390 of the Sheridan/EBR.



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I never managed to like this line; ok, in general I never managed to like much from the russian lines, but being so invested in crews for them... You know, russian tanks are beginner friendly and so on.

 

I've played some with t54 lwt. Didn't free xp stuff on it as I don't think it's worth free xping stuff on light lines. They usually have few and simple module upgrades. It ain't dramatic even when stock.

 

Eq: well, for me it's pretty much vstab/rammer/optics for everything above tier 7('xcept is-3/is-m where, obviously... no optics). Everyone says this light line has good dispersion on the move so vstabs can be dropped. I didn't test.

 

it seems like a rather weird tank. With good crew/food, I don't have problem spotting. But it seems to be more of... pocket flanking medium? I mean, it actually bounces stuff. And long range support is pretty impossible with that accy. I can swallow bad accy with a clipper as I'm fine with hitting 2 out of 4. But without clip, not really.

 

for me, between this and 13 90... no brainer which, and it ain't the russian one. But this one seems to perform rather decently on city maps.

 

t 54 lwt for me in one word? Track stuff. Basically perma track stuff.



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ram other lights, when you have an opportunity, its heavy as phuk.




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