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Spurtung #1 Posted 13 November 2019 - 06:00 AM

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I bought it for 15k, wondering what equipment to run in it.

 

In the regular 121 I'm going with rammer, vstab and vents, same on this one? Yes/no and why?



VarzA #2 Posted 13 November 2019 - 06:04 AM

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I don't have it yet, still saving bonds (should have enough after FL week 10), but i plan to go with vstab + rammer + coated optics.

It has insane view range for a russian style medium tank of 420m, while aimtime is good at 2.2s (stock) and gun handling seems about the same as that of the regular 121.

 

PS: With sit awareness, bia, coated optics you can get almost 490m view range, and if you use food it becomes 510m, 522m with recon on top of that.

That is just pure evil vs lights. :)


Edited by VarzA, 13 November 2019 - 06:23 AM.


LordSkyFury #3 Posted 13 November 2019 - 08:19 AM

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I play it with rammer + vstab + coated optics. It is fun to out spot almost everything. Also I always have a lot of assist damage thanks to very high view range.

tajj7 #4 Posted 13 November 2019 - 12:57 PM

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Considering its a fairly meh tank, 420m view range is one of it's stand out features so optics and full view range skills, coupled with decent camo (much better than the M60 or Patton who also have 420m view range) makes it a very strong spotter for the team. (you actually have pretty much the same stationary camo as the Rhm and Sheridan which also have 420m view range). 

 

That is going with the premise of building around its strengths, so I'd say v-stab, optics and rammer. 

 

Or you could go hilariously left field and use binos.

 

Without improved equipment and directives, maxed out i think you can get 522m view range, with binos its 593m lol. 

 

And you can get around 32% stationary camo and 25% on the move. 

 

Some sort of meme spotter set up on this tank could be quite funny -

 

  • Improved optics
  • Improved vents
  • optics directive
  • Binos
  • Recon
  • Sit awareness
  • BIA
  • Food. 
  • Full camo crew
  • Vehicle camo.

 

I think that sort of set up would be pushing the moving view range past 550m and the stationary view range up to like 620m



Bora_BOOM #5 Posted 13 November 2019 - 01:09 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 13 November 2019 - 11:57 AM, said:

Considering its a fairly meh tank, 420m view range is one of it's stand out features so optics and full view range skills, coupled with decent camo (much better than the M60 or Patton who also have 420m view range) makes it a very strong spotter for the team. (you actually have pretty much the same stationary camo as the Rhm and Sheridan which also have 420m view range). 

 

That is going with the premise of building around its strengths, so I'd say v-stab, optics and rammer. 

 

Or you could go hilariously left field and use binos.

 

Without improved equipment and directives, maxed out i think you can get 522m view range, with binos its 593m lol. 

 

And you can get around 32% stationary camo and 25% on the move. 

 

Some sort of meme spotter set up on this tank could be quite funny -

 

  • Improved optics
  • Improved vents
  • optics directive
  • Binos
  • Recon
  • Sit awareness
  • BIA
  • Food. 
  • Full camo crew
  • Vehicle camo.

 

I think that sort of set up would be pushing the moving view range past 550m and the stationary view range up to like 620m

 

And when you pimp up the tank like that you get Himmelsdorf. :trollface:



tajj7 #6 Posted 13 November 2019 - 01:16 PM

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View PostBora_BOOM, on 13 November 2019 - 12:09 PM, said:

 

And when you pimp up the tank like that you get Himmelsdorf. :trollface:

 

Yeh probably, though with improved vents + BIA + food you'd still have over 3k DPM and the gun handling whilst not great its ok. (especially as the aim time is worst bit of the gun handling and the vents + food improve that)

 

But obviously you are trading some DPM/gun handling for a specific spotting boost, which is why it's more a meme set up. 

 

But considering you can't get that base view range on anything else that is not either just bad (Sheridan or Rhm.) or is big and has no camo (M48 and M60), it's an interesting option IMO. 

 

Even without a v-stab and a rammer you still have far more combat capability than either of the two lights, plus way more survivability, and you are more mobile than a Patton, and more bouncy than an M60.  Probably a 121b with that set up is still more competitive on Himmelsdorf than either of the lights or the M60. 

 

620m + view range might even start troubling strvs. 


Edited by tajj7, 13 November 2019 - 01:17 PM.


Bora_BOOM #7 Posted 13 November 2019 - 01:24 PM

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Agreed.

And then a yolo EBR flies over the middle ridge on Prkhorovka and does its "Boris the Blade, aka "Boris the bullet dodger" tricks.

 

And yes, I know you fancy the wheelchairs topics, so please: don’t!  :teethhappy:


Edited by Bora_BOOM, 13 November 2019 - 01:28 PM.


barison1 #8 Posted 13 November 2019 - 01:52 PM

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would run vstab/rammer/optic, but you could switch out optic for vents. with optics you should be able to outspot pretty much everything, which for me is more important than bit better overall bonus from vents

vasilinhorulezz #9 Posted 13 November 2019 - 02:28 PM

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with food > rammer, vstab, vents (or optics)

no food > rammer, vstab, optics



sokolicc #10 Posted 13 November 2019 - 03:05 PM

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vstab, vents, rammer, food and probably bond directive for fire.
i want to maximize my gun potential if i already have decent viewrange (460-470m is very good).

Spurtung #11 Posted 13 November 2019 - 06:05 PM

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View Postsokolicc, on 13 November 2019 - 02:05 PM, said:

vstab, vents, rammer, food and probably bond directive for fire.
i want to maximize my gun potential if i already have decent viewrange (460-470m is very good).

 

That's my thought exactly. Got both VR enhancing skills along with BiA in that crew, from that point on, optics is just a bit of an overkill, albeit useful, I think I rather go with "everything slightly better" that comes with the vents.

 



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View PostSpurtung, on 13 November 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:

 

That's my thought exactly. Got both VR enhancing skills along with BiA in that crew, from that point on, optics is just a bit of an overkill, albeit useful, I think I rather go with "everything slightly better" that comes with the vents.

 

 

I used to think that, but since they changed the maps and HD bushes and caused so much base camping I changed everything to maxing out as much view range as possible. 



Cobra6 #13 Posted 14 November 2019 - 01:10 PM

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As pretty much any high tier medium:

 

- Rammer

- Optics

- Vstab

 

Good view range and pretty reliable long range gun.

 

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ValkyrionX #14 Posted 14 November 2019 - 02:22 PM

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  1. gun rammer
  2. v-stab
  3. coated optics
  4. + combat rations


Spurtung #15 Posted 15 November 2019 - 02:01 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 14 November 2019 - 11:48 AM, said:

 

I used to think that, but since they changed the maps and HD bushes and caused so much base camping I changed everything to maxing out as much view range as possible. 

 

M60 is a bit more textbook imo: rammer, vstab and optics, not much to wonder about.

 

It's also about the tank's role. 121B is a bit more of a brawler like the 430U, and the vents might give it that extra edge.

Either way, I haven't really played either one yet, waiting for equipment discounts.



tajj7 #16 Posted 15 November 2019 - 11:38 AM

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View PostSpurtung, on 15 November 2019 - 01:01 AM, said:

121B is a bit more of a brawler like the 430Us.

 

Not really, it has more armour than an M60, but is probably less reliable than an M48 Patton for example, most tier 10s will punch straight through the turret front with standard ammo, it's basically got the old non-buffed T-54 turret, most of the front is 240-250 effective. Same with the hull armour, yes its 130mm but it'll only really work against lower tiers if they can't see your lower plate.

 

A 430U will munch it with ease in a brawl. 

 

It's a medium to long range tank, that can bounce the odd shot, and maybe brawl a little against tier 8s and some tier 9s. Hence the view range, decent accuracy, and 350 pen HEAT. 






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