45 replies to this topic

[O_o_HugO]

exactly the part about the pain is correct

 

Kudos WG

 

 

anyway the tank is quite ok..decent like a WZ111...unless every chipmunk nowadays spam gold...then it's more-less useless

[xXK4L1NXx]

Simona2k, on 13 November 2019 - 11:23 AM, said:

112 tank real pain?

https://images.app.g...z8vQ27o2q5cpXe7

[O_o_HugO]

TheInnocentTinCan, on 13 November 2019 - 11:31 AM, said:

You can't manage to do solid 2k in your tier 8 ,,,, so no hard filing 

I'm up for custard filling....no hard feeling.....if you can't do solid 2k then you still can get better in your grammar 

[xXK4L1NXx]

O_o_HugO, on 13 November 2019 - 12:15 PM, said:

I'm up for custard filling....no hard feeling.....if you can't do solid 2k then you still can get better in your grammar 

Why you heff to be med? Is only typo

[Inappropriate_noob]

Same old,same old, same old garbage tanks, got to offer better tanks than this to get new players in the game, this si getting pathetic now WG, not as any WG employee will ever read  what we say.

[EzekyleAbaddon_]

This tank is real pain for owners 186 mm pen in 2019-20 sereously? but I remember this Destroyergun25t with 175mm ... damn , nobody cares bout balance of this vehicle Hope marketing team take this tank and play on it 100 battles with 186 mm pen on 8-9 lvl DDD

I don't know how they had ideas like this , we had old tank with bad characteristics , lets sell that garbage maybe we found some idiots.

Nope wg thanks - 40 euros is 40 euros

Edited by EzekyleAbaddon_, 13 November 2019 - 12:39 PM.

[_Potato_from_Poland]

TheInnocentTinCan, on 13 November 2019 - 10:31 AM, said:

You can't manage to do solid 2k in your tier 8 ,,,, so no hard filing 

slowly getting there

[parim1331]

Range_Ace, on 13 November 2019 - 08:24 AM, said:

It's a nice heavy, too bad standard pen is low, but it has limited MM. Good crew trainer, but bad credit maker. Armor if angled properly, it's insane. Speed is fantastic. 

 

Limited matchmaking is a big thing for couple that are looking for good consistency, e.g for someone that would like to three mark this machine.

[SlyMeerkat]

Already have 

[O_o_HugO]

xXK4L1NXx, on 13 November 2019 - 12:17 PM, said:

Why you heff to be med? Is only typo

Where? Who? Med?

[Range_Ace]

parim1331, on 13 November 2019 - 01:24 PM, said:

 

Limited matchmaking is a big thing for couple that are looking for good consistency, e.g for someone that would like to three mark this machine.

Indeed, but to 3 mark this or any other tank is very, very difficult and sometimes pointless. It takes the fun out of the game when you aware that you have to constantly do damage / assist damage or else... So on topic as most of the people around here i strongly agree it needs at least 200 mm pen for it to be competitive. 

[parim1331]

Range_Ace, on 13 November 2019 - 03:09 PM, said:

Indeed, but to 3 mark this or any other tank is very, very difficult and sometimes pointless. It takes the fun out of the game when you aware that you have to constantly do damage / assist damage or else... So on topic as most of the people around here i strongly agree it needs at least 200 mm pen for it to be competitive. 

 

Honestly, it's up to certain person's needs. If someone's up for a challenge and wants to three-mark vehicles, I fully support that.

 

Regarding the competitive side of the tank, I will be sure to forward the feedback regarding this machine.

[Range_Ace]

parim1331, on 13 November 2019 - 03:17 PM, said:

 

Honestly, it's up to certain person's needs. If someone's up for a challenge and wants to three-mark vehicles, I fully support that.

 

Regarding the competitive side of the tank, I will be sure to forward the feedback regarding this machine.

Thank you, that's very polite. Let's hope the correct decission is taken. 

[EdgeBoy]

EzekyleAbaddon_, on 13 November 2019 - 11:37 AM, said:

I don't know how they had ideas like this , we had old tank with bad characteristics , lets sell that garbage maybe we found some idiots.

Nope wg thanks - 40 euros is 40 euros

they indeed fish for idiots, instead of a discount on a tank, they "add" "usefull items" like prem time and x5 exp and theen "lover the price" back on the starting price of just the tank yea i see what U did there

tank by itself works kinda ok (dont have it but have wz-111) but the "package" doesn't

its not NO tank

its NO THANKS

NoobySkooby, on 13 November 2019 - 11:32 AM, said:

Same old,same old, same old garbage tanks, got to offer better tanks than this to get new players in the game,

do you really think that this game needs new tanks to attract new players?

O_o_HugO, on 13 November 2019 - 11:12 AM, said:

anyway the tank is quite ok..decent like a WZ111...unless every chipmunk nowadays spam gold...then it's more-less useless

and what do you think about those "2" key warriors? they're everywhere

this tank is from the "age of armor" before the "press 2 for win" update

Range_Ace, on 13 November 2019 - 02:09 PM, said:

 So on topic as most of the people around here i strongly agree it needs at least 200 mm pen for it to be competitive. 

no it doesnt, not in pref MM dont talk like "olen"™

after all the 175 pen was buffed to 182, its much easier to play T8 with D25T or idiot D10T 100mm (t-44, su-85(i know, not t8) all heavies with 122

YES, the powercreep is real, yes, skill play for "2" players is real, so is "WASD" hack also

and im not a noob, i play since the T30 was tier 10 and we had only 3 nations, and td-s and meds went to tier9, and top scouts were chaffee, vk28 and t-50-2 and you needed 50k + exp from t4 to t5 to unlock them

and prem rounds were bought for gold, same as all the food and prem consumables

and there was a best back there, only one that was famous for "press 2 for skill/win"

it was the vk3601h with "konnische" gun, now is "waffe 75" or something

anyway, this gun had a standard and gold round, standard had ok pen and dmg, and gold had a lot better pen and ONLY 1/2 damage, not to mention that it costed 10-20 € to buy gold just to spam in 1 game at tier 6

i think that is the answer even now, yes, allow skill round but cut dmg in half, so if people dont want to flank or aim or learn weak spots, they will do lower dmg, lower profit, but still can press "2" without any brain work and continue clicking

PS TLDR

tank is ok, package is bloted for overpricing

[Range_Ace]

EdgeBoy, on 13 November 2019 - 03:33 PM, said:

they indeed fish for idiots, instead of a discount on a tank, they "add" "usefull items" like prem time and x5 exp and theen "lover the price" back on the starting price of just the tank yea i see what U did there

tank by itself works kinda ok (dont have it but have wz-111) but the "package" doesn't

its not NO tank

its NO THANKS

do you really think that this game needs new tanks to attract new players?

and what do you think about those "2" key warriors? they're everywhere

this tank is from the "age of armor" before the "press 2 for win" update

no it doesnt, not in pref MM dont talk like "olen"™

after all the 175 pen was buffed to 182, its much easier to play T8 with D25T or idiot D10T 100mm (t-44, su-85(i know, not t8) all heavies with 122

YES, the powercreep is real, yes, skill play for "2" players is real, so is "WASD" hack also

and im not a noob, i play since the T30 was tier 10 and we had only 3 nations, and td-s and meds went to tier9, and top scouts were chaffee, vk28 and t-50-2 and you needed 50k + exp from t4 to t5 to unlock them

and prem rounds were bought for gold, same as all the food and prem consumables

and there was a best back there, only one that was famous for "press 2 for skill/win"

it was the vk3601h with "konnische" gun, now is "waffe 75" or something

anyway, this gun had a standard and gold round, standard had ok pen and dmg, and gold had a lot better pen and ONLY 1/2 damage, not to mention that it costed 10-20 € to buy gold just to spam in 1 game at tier 6

i think that is the answer even now, yes, allow skill round but cut dmg in half, so if people dont want to flank or aim or learn weak spots, they will do lower dmg, lower profit, but still can press "2" without any brain work and continue clicking

PS TLDR

tank is ok, package is bloted for overpricing

Since you are so vocal, let me remind you that jagdtiger 88 got a buff to 212 pen  from 203 pen and many other stats, improved ofc, having also pref MM. Second I as a player don't fire premium shells what so ever, i learned the weekspots, back when premium shells were avaible for gold only. Third, as far as we are concerned, we live in a democratic Europe, so it will be best suited if wargamming will create a votepool for the pen problem of 112 and any other preferential MM tanks.  Let the vote decide what is best. 

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[LK_4D4]

same trash as is6 which use to be fun to play, how about give it more penetration to make it even remotely attractive? 

[bateto_007]

I have it!

I don't play much with it, but it's not so bad. Has some armor and good damage without pen.

Not good as a creditmaker.

[Hellraiser0201]

Garbage! Torture! Every battle vs tier9!

[Inappropriate_noob]

parim1331, on 13 November 2019 - 03:17 PM, said:

 

Honestly, it's up to certain person's needs. If someone's up for a challenge and wants to three-mark vehicles, I fully support that.

 

Regarding the competitive side of the tank, I will be sure to forward the feedback regarding this machine.

Just out of interest,when you forward any feedback,to your WG overlords,have they ever listened to you once,ever,just out of interest?

There are many forum contributors here who could run rings around the ideas WG come up with and who know the game inside and out, yet nothing, but nothing in this game ever changes.

[VarzA]

_Potato_from_Poland, on 13 November 2019 - 11:39 AM, said:

 

average damage would be ok with tier5 tank. not great, but ok. with tier8 you need to start looking 2k+ averages.

He's a newbie, not a unicum.

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parim1331, on 13 November 2019 - 02:24 PM, said:

 

Limited matchmaking is a big thing for couple that are looking for good consistency, e.g for someone that would like to three mark this machine.

That's not how 3 marking works.

 

It'a about having overall results that are in the top 5%, and if you have the advantage of pref MM on your tank, so does everyone else.