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_HakunaMatata_ #1 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:32 AM

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Hey tankers and WG staff,

 

I am just wondering why WG does not allow players to trade tanks, TDs and Arties between each other. An example, I want to have the Foch 155. It's a TD that we can't unlock it anymore because Foch B is there. Why should we not be allowed to trade that Foch 155 with other users? Another example is with Type 59. I did play with few players in game where they had Type 59. When I asked them why they did not play Type 59, they said they can't play it that good because no they have other Premium tanks like T54 proto or let's say Defender.

 

There should be a possibility where you can trade between players. For example I would be happy to give my Panther 8.8 with T-44-100 and also give the user a 1000 Gold, just to make the deal a bit sweet. In Garage inside the store, there should be an option which says trade between you and other tankers.

 

Why is WG so Greedy about not allowing us to do this?

 

The other thing is this. I have my Type 5 in Garage and never play it. I just unlocked it. Now I would like to have an Arty for that. Maybe a player of T92 would not like to play arty that much anymore and would change it with my Type 5. Why should we not be allowed to do that? Options in the game should be added where players can also give credit to each other or gold when it comes to changing tanks.

 

You guys support me in this idea? This game says Free to play but honestly the way WG works is Slavery to play. They don't give any option to make the game fun.

 

Would be happy to see what you guys think.



jack_timber #2 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:38 AM

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Swap my T92 arty for your Type 5!

Oh no my T92 feasts on Type 5's.

Back on topic....

Been suggested several times IMO never going to happen.



The_Naa #3 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:39 AM

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Premium tank for a another premium tank, sounds nice

 

Tech tree tank for another tech tree tank, does not sound so good

 

The basic idea in general is good tho. :great:


Edited by The_Naa, 14 November 2019 - 10:41 AM.


Jethro_Grey #4 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:39 AM

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Profits.

 

Such a trade option would decrease WGs Profits, and that's why it'd never gonna happen. 



GodTank2 #5 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:41 AM

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It can easily be abused and it makes WG lose money.

Lets say someone wants to sell his account, now he can just send all his tanks to the buyer instead of getting the other players account.

Another example is someone who has 50k games and 51% winrate can make a new account , trade all their tanks to their new account and start over their stats without any significant progress loss



BQBD #6 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:42 AM

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View PostJethro_Grey, on 14 November 2019 - 10:39 AM, said:

Profits.

 

Such a trade option would decrease WGs Profits, and that's why it'd never gonna happen. 

 

:great: Was just about to write the same thing.



Balc0ra #7 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:42 AM

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View Post_HakunaMatata_, on 14 November 2019 - 10:32 AM, said:

The other thing is this. I have my Type 5 in Garage and never play it. I just unlocked it. Now I would like to have an Arty for that. Maybe a player of T92 would not like to play arty that much anymore and would change it with my Type 5. Why should we not be allowed to do that? Options in the game should be added where players can also give credit to each other or gold when it comes to changing tanks.

 

I get the premium trade idea. But tech tree tanks are a bit different. For starters, you never played US SPG's. So should you still be allowed to trade for a T92 when don't even have the line unlocked?



splash_time #8 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:43 AM

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View Post_HakunaMatata_, on 14 November 2019 - 12:32 PM, said:

Spoiler

 

Because if they do so, nobody will grind any tank, players will just buy gold/credits and trade tanks.

 

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View PostBalc0ra, on 14 November 2019 - 12:42 PM, said:

I get the premium trade idea. But tech tree tanks are a bit different. For starters, you never played US SPG's. So should you still be allowed to trade for a T92 when don't even have the line unlocked?

 


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_HakunaMatata_ #9 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:55 AM

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View PostThe_Naa, on 14 November 2019 - 09:39 AM, said:

Premium tank for a another premium tank, sounds nice

 

Tech tree tank for another tech tree tank, does not sound so good

 

The basic idea in general is good tho. :great:

The reason I mentioned tech tree tanks is because some people can't be bothered to unlock a tank, td or arty. Now you have a tank that the arty player likes but can't be bothered unlocking it. So why not give both players the chance to be happy? 

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View PostBalc0ra, on 14 November 2019 - 09:42 AM, said:

 

 

I get the premium trade idea. But tech tree tanks are a bit different. For starters, you never played US SPG's. So should you still be allowed to trade for a T92 when don't even have the line unlocked?

I am not saying unlock a tech tree with gold. I mean you exchange a tech tree vehicle with another tech vehicle. As of now. My Is-4 is standing alone because of how WG has changed it. few years ago I have unlocked it and now have it. ST-1 is not even unlocked. So sometimes the tech tree is actually messed up because of Wg how they move tanks during time. Honestly I don't like playing some tier 10 tanks. I mean they're collecting dust. So why not have the ability to swap them with another tank in the tree line that I could play.

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View PostJethro_Grey, on 14 November 2019 - 09:39 AM, said:

Profits.

 

Such a trade option would decrease WGs Profits, and that's why it'd never gonna happen. 

I would or could but some players are just suffering to unlock a tank that they would be happy to exchange with another. But yes, this game is not really free to play because it just does not have those abilities.



BravelyRanAway #10 Posted 14 November 2019 - 11:08 AM

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With trading comes account hacking and money scams.

Negativvv #11 Posted 14 November 2019 - 11:15 AM

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WG need to be paid...

 

Could always just swap accounts with close friends?? Although WG would probably ban if they found out.

 

What about a share account feature like what Netflix parasites use? So the main account user can let others use their account for free...



_HakunaMatata_ #12 Posted 14 November 2019 - 11:24 AM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 14 November 2019 - 10:08 AM, said:

With trading comes account hacking and money scams.

How can money scam or account hacking happen when everything goes via the in game store? My idea is that everything should be within game which means everything runs via WG servers.

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View PostNegativvv, on 14 November 2019 - 10:15 AM, said:

WG need to be paid...

 

Could always just swap accounts with close friends?? Although WG would probably ban if they found out.

 

What about a share account feature like what Netflix parasites use? So the main account user can let others use their account for free...

But they already got my time man. Look again for an example.

 

I have Leopard 1 and another player has E-50M. He likes my Leopard 1, I like his E50M. We both unlocked them and we both did spend time. The difference is that i got bored of my Leopard 1 and so is the other player with his E-50m. Sure Wg wants my time so I can unlock the E-50m but that's not going to happen. I just don't feel like unlocking and all what it will be is my Leopard 1 collects dust and the E-50m in the other player collects dust. Once we exchange the tanks the whole tree line should be back to be researched. Simple as that.



BravelyRanAway #13 Posted 14 November 2019 - 11:40 AM

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View Post_HakunaMatata_, on 14 November 2019 - 10:24 AM, said:

How can money scam or account hacking happen when everything goes via the in game store? My idea is that everything should be within game which means everything runs via WG servers.

How naive.



Stevies_Team #14 Posted 14 November 2019 - 11:44 AM

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200 gold from each side to trade a tonk = profits for WoT



Inappropriate_noob #15 Posted 14 November 2019 - 11:54 AM

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If e can sell em for gold, it's a deal, I need all the gold I can get:D

Balc0ra #16 Posted 14 November 2019 - 12:20 PM

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View Post_HakunaMatata_, on 14 November 2019 - 10:55 AM, said:

My Is-4 is standing alone because of how WG has changed it. few years ago I have unlocked it and now have it. ST-1 is not even unlocked. So sometimes the tech tree is actually messed up because of Wg how they move tanks during time.

 

But that's not the case for every tech tree tank. And thus you have a market trade option ready for abuse. As in people free XP new lines, sell the tank to someone who doesn't want to grind it on day one for real money. And thus sites close to the style of CSGO lotto will appear to sell stuff and scam via "trading" in-game stuff for WOT. As sure you can trade only in-game for a fee. But for new or rare stuff like the Type 59. You can take an extra fee just to start the trade even via a site. And that's why I suspect we have yet to see it. Not due to greed. But how other games have made a "marked" for stuff like this and ruined it for others.



tajj7 #17 Posted 14 November 2019 - 12:22 PM

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View PostJethro_Grey, on 14 November 2019 - 09:39 AM, said:

Profits.

 

Such a trade option would decrease WGs Profits, and that's why it'd never gonna happen. 

 

Yeh this, WG would rather someone spent £200 on loot boxes to get a Type 59 than to trade a few old premium tanks for it. 

 

You could also buy up old accounts from ebay etc., then just 'trade' all the tanks you don't have to your main account for nothing amounts and essentially create your own press account with almost every tank available. 



malachi6 #18 Posted 14 November 2019 - 12:44 PM

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Issues regarding RMT  and money laundering.  But of course, not selling a thing is often a sign of corporate greed. 

 

Why is it that people who want to believe a company only ever wants to make money. Uses them not making money as evidence for such?  Strikes me as an affirmative conclusion fallacy, but then I may be guilty of hasty generalization.



VarzA #19 Posted 14 November 2019 - 12:50 PM

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In principle this would alter the control WG has over the source of microtransactions; yes, they could tax it (and they should) but you have to understand that this game is no longer being developed.

This game is in support/maintenance mode with various ocasional additions,  WOT has graduated into cash cow for WG, to fund other projects.

 

On top of that, WG has done very little to address bots in this game (you can easily see them during normal gameplay) so some ppl would turn this ability to trade into a business.

Fixing something that is broken is much harder than just forbiding it. :)

 

 

Your only option to beat the game is to turn f2p.


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GodTank2 #20 Posted 14 November 2019 - 12:50 PM

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View Post_HakunaMatata_, on 14 November 2019 - 11:24 AM, said:

How can money scam or account hacking happen when everything goes via the in game store? My idea is that everything should be within game which means everything runs via WG servers.

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But they already got my time man. Look again for an example.

 

I have Leopard 1 and another player has E-50M. He likes my Leopard 1, I like his E50M. We both unlocked them and we both did spend time. The difference is that i got bored of my Leopard 1 and so is the other player with his E-50m. Sure Wg wants my time so I can unlock the E-50m but that's not going to happen. I just don't feel like unlocking and all what it will be is my Leopard 1 collects dust and the E-50m in the other player collects dust. Once we exchange the tanks the whole tree line should be back to be researched. Simple as that.

 

So basically if you unlock 1 tier 10 tank you unlock every tier 10 tank since you can just trade tanks over and over again after you get bored of 1?






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