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Tr4perr #1 Posted 15 November 2019 - 03:12 PM

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hi everyone

 

is it worth  the AMX M4 mle. 49 Liberté for 8k bounds?

 

Atm i have lt 432 and wz 120 tier as a premium t8.



SaintMaddenus #2 Posted 15 November 2019 - 03:53 PM

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It has been power crept but going full frontal does still bounce a few do not let them see you sides at all.  I did buy one for bonds.     Not so good in T10 battles but still a decent tank.  was wonderful when I had a rental in TEAM BATTLES.  But seeing as we don't have them...  Some people do know where too shoot from front but most people don't.  So as long as you can keep that front pointed at their guns and convince them to shoot it you are mostly ok.  I still like it but only bought it the other day so haven't played it too much

fwhaatpiraat #3 Posted 15 November 2019 - 04:07 PM

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I'd say yes. Seems like a nice tank to play (to me).

falcon_96 #4 Posted 15 November 2019 - 04:14 PM

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Unless you want a french heavy specifically i'd say the Patriot is a better tank to spend your bonds on.
I'm considering getting it for bonds as well, but i'm first going to wait and see what amount of bonds will WG drop for us old guard players this year, last November it was 5000 in my case.

Negativvv #5 Posted 15 November 2019 - 04:20 PM

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Is it true the cupola can be nuked with high calibre HE for a 1 shot?

fwhaatpiraat #6 Posted 15 November 2019 - 04:24 PM

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View PostNegativvv, on 15 November 2019 - 04:20 PM, said:

Is it true the cupola can be nuked with high calibre HE for a 1 shot?

If I had to guess, I'd say the cupola is 60mm 'thick'. Can't check atm.



Tr4perr #7 Posted 15 November 2019 - 04:29 PM

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View Postfalcon_96, on 15 November 2019 - 04:14 PM, said:

Unless you want a french heavy specifically i'd say the Patriot is a better tank to spend your bonds on.
I'm considering getting it for bonds as well, but i'm first going to wait and see what amount of bonds will WG drop for us old guard players this year, last November it was 5000 in my case.


cant see how...

 

it has better rate of fire but worse armor and less alpha  damage.



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View PostTr4perr, on 15 November 2019 - 03:29 PM, said:


cant see how...

 

it has better rate of fire but worse armor and less alpha  damage.


It has a lot of gun depression, a fast RoF, good premium ammo and relatively good hull armor.

 

I'd say the OPatriot (compared to regular tech tree T32) is the more versatile tank.

That being said, the AMX M4 49 is one of the newer premium tanks so it's much "higher" balanced then old generation premium tanks, it's very useable.

 

Basically, the M4 49 is what the Tiger II should be, armor wise.

 

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NUKLEAR_SLUG #9 Posted 15 November 2019 - 05:39 PM

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You have to watch your cupola but in all other aspects it's a solid tank that works well. 

XxKuzkina_MatxX #10 Posted 15 November 2019 - 06:08 PM

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The Liberté or its non skinned version is available through the referral program. Not sure paying for it with bonds is a good idea. The tank is good though apart from the unjustifiably bad gun handling considering the alpha and the gun caliber. It isn't the accuracy (0.35) that's problematic but the dispersion values combined with the aim time. Those are good for an autoloader which this tank isn't.



splash_time #11 Posted 15 November 2019 - 06:22 PM

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View PostTr4perr, on 15 November 2019 - 05:12 PM, said:

hi everyone

 

is it worth  the AMX M4 mle. 49 Liberté for 8k bounds?

 

Atm i have lt 432 and wz 120 tier as a premium t8.

Absolutely worth it, i have it, 65% win rate IIRC, it has great frontal armour and if it's used wisely, then you'll be like a real "steel wall". :)

but bad thing is even if you angle it a little more than it's needed, you'll take damage.

Good damage and pen overall, also good speed.

 

last word? it depends on you, how would you play it, if you are aggressive, then don't waste your 8k bonds mate. 

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Tr4perr #12 Posted 15 November 2019 - 08:28 PM

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crew skills

equipment

 

any tips?



FatigueGalaxy #13 Posted 15 November 2019 - 08:28 PM

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View PostNegativvv, on 15 November 2019 - 04:20 PM, said:

Is it true the cupola can be nuked with high calibre HE for a 1 shot?

View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 15 November 2019 - 04:24 PM, said:

If I had to guess, I'd say the cupola is 60mm 'thick'. Can't check atm.

Yes.

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You have to avoid close encounters with japanese heavies at all cost. This cupola is the reason why I used top turret on AMX 65t, which despite being overall weaker, has weakspots that can't be penetrated by HE.

KV-2s, japanese heavies, wheeled vehicles, british meds tier 9+, british TDs tier 8+, italian meds tier 9+, german LTs tier 9+ (and Black Bulldog) - fairy common tanks and any decent player will just load HE and make you look stupid.

I suppose it won't happen THAT often but it's annoying as hell when it does.

 


Edited by FatigueGalaxy, 15 November 2019 - 08:29 PM.


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Yes.

 

 



Tr4perr #15 Posted 15 November 2019 - 11:48 PM

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well bought it, and it seems a pile of crapxD

NUKLEAR_SLUG #16 Posted 16 November 2019 - 08:15 AM

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View PostTr4perr, on 15 November 2019 - 11:48 PM, said:

well bought it, and it seems a pile of crapxD

 

Keep it pointed at the enemy, your sides are weak. Frontally the armour is reliable, but don't invite fire. 



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View PostTr4perr, on 16 November 2019 - 01:48 AM, said:

well bought it, and it seems a pile of crapxD

 

I told you to don't waste your bonds. :)

But as @NUCLEAR_SLUG said, keep it towards the enemies, choose your target wisely so you don't expose your side armour to anyone.  ;) 

I'll try to upload some replays of my gameplay here if I had free time today. 



VarzA #18 Posted 16 November 2019 - 10:05 AM

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View PostTr4perr, on 15 November 2019 - 04:12 PM, said:

hi everyone

 

is it worth  the AMX M4 mle. 49 Liberté for 8k bounds?

 

Atm i have lt 432 and wz 120 tier as a premium t8.

 

No way, you can get it for free from referral program.

 

View PostTr4perr, on 16 November 2019 - 12:48 AM, said:

well bought it, and it seems a pile of crapxD


Well .... ok, damage is done, so let's say it's a weird tank.

 

Things to remember :

1 - never sidescrape unless in an extreme pinch with it, any half decent player will go for your hull shoulders

2 - front armor is tough, side and rear are paper, not Emil 1 paper but paper

3 - gun is good, standard pen is good, it can rack up damage in the right situation but it is tall tank so relatively easy to hit by arty in the open, and side splashes do a lot of damage

4 - if top tier push, bully, don't give them time to aim for your weakspots (lower plate and cupola), if mid tier, you are semi-support, can also push, if you are bottom tier, you are pure support and here you can go with the meds since you have the mobility or use the HP/T to peak and shoot fast, limiting the chance of getting hit back

 

PS: Due to the weak side armor and inability to sidesccrape, it's not very good in FL, 112+is6+defender are better heavies there in early game and CAX has much better dpm.


Edited by VarzA, 16 November 2019 - 10:11 AM.


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Not worth it for 8k bonds, and strictly speaking the Löwe is better - if you have a German crew, that is.

 

Decent tank otherwise. Protect your shoulders via angling, and enjoy decent penetration. I was never a fan of the Patriot myself. In theory a nice mix of medium and heavy, in practice it's not working so well. The penetration values are also rather lackluster, and the famed shell speed is only a few percent better than the Liberté.



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