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strezahuzum #1 Posted 16 November 2019 - 05:22 PM

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Hi guys!

 

I reached the tier V or the Tank Rewards mission. So now I get to choose between the M4 Improved, Ram II or T14 heavy tank. Disclaimer: I got the M4 improved as a loot box item some time ago, sold it because it was not interesting. I have all the trainers I need for American crews, so my only criteria would be "which one might be more fun".

 

I would appreciate any suggestions, especially if you already played any of these vehicles.



Tealo #2 Posted 16 November 2019 - 06:05 PM

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More fun? Then for me it is the Ram, very fast reload but the aim time sort of sucks, but it is fun punishing any one trying to rush and romper stomp a heavy or other tank in front of you.. it’s a support tank it’s gun basically plays like a auto loader without the disadvantage of a clip with the longer reload. 

 With a warning the pen is not that good with standard but good enough against other meds at the same tier or most heavies if you know where to shoot.

 Bottom tier not too bad with its limited MM only sees plus 1 and will have problems penning a few heavies when bottom tier even into their weak spots. I found carry say 20 rounds of gold ammo solves this problem or using the increased mobility to runaway or change firing angle of course helps as well.


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Homer_J #3 Posted 16 November 2019 - 06:20 PM

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T14 only meets up to tier VI which means you are usually top or middle tier.

divsmo #4 Posted 16 November 2019 - 06:22 PM

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Personally i went for the T14, same as you i already have the m4 'improved' from the loot boxes and didn't much fancy the ram. Not sure any of them really tick the fun box it's just a case of picking the best one for you from a bad bunch.

Dava_117 #5 Posted 16 November 2019 - 06:27 PM

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I asked my brother wich tank he liked most. He said T14 looked more aerodynamic. I got a T14 now... :D

Pansenmann #6 Posted 16 November 2019 - 06:31 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 16 November 2019 - 06:27 PM, said:

I asked my brother wich tank he liked most. He said T14 looked more aerodynamic. I got a T14 now... :D

 

he has a point :)



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RAM II is fun

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shikaka9 #8 Posted 16 November 2019 - 06:52 PM

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RAM is 

bilalkhan120 #9 Posted 25 November 2019 - 10:44 PM

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I am also stuck between ram 2 and t14 still cant decide and its last day. :( can any buddy else give some opinion if they already selected one .

Homer_J #10 Posted 25 November 2019 - 10:49 PM

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View Postbilalkhan120, on 25 November 2019 - 09:44 PM, said:

I am also stuck between ram 2 and t14 still cant decide and its last day. :( can any buddy else give some opinion if they already selected one .

 

First consideration is do you want a heavy or medium crew trainer.

 

Then take the T14.



TomatoShooter #11 Posted 25 November 2019 - 11:00 PM

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I chose RAM II most exclusive :P

samuelx43a #12 Posted 25 November 2019 - 11:04 PM

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I had the T14 from a twich lootbox a while ago, so the only thing missing was the RAM.

 

but the T14 is a great little tank. the armour while only 50mm, is well angled and the turret can stop a good variety of rounds that are not well aimed. The gun is not the best but if you can pen something, it will melt fast



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View Postbilalkhan120, on 25 November 2019 - 10:44 PM, said:

I am also stuck between ram 2 and t14 still cant decide and its last day. :( can any buddy else give some opinion if they already selected one .

You have time till end of the month.



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View Poststrezahuzum, on 16 November 2019 - 04:22 PM, said:

Hi guys!

 

I reached the tier V or the Tank Rewards mission. So now I get to choose between the M4 Improved, Ram II or T14 heavy tank. Disclaimer: I got the M4 improved as a loot box item some time ago, sold it because it was not interesting. I have all the trainers I need for American crews, so my only criteria would be "which one might be more fun".

 

I would appreciate any suggestions, especially if you already played any of these vehicles.

I have 3 marked all of them

 

And I can tell you the T-14 is by far the best. Ram is second and  M4 "improved" is a pile of garbo.  Bur regardless of which on you pick, be prepare to spam prem ammo if you actually want to do damage. 



Lanrefni #15 Posted 25 November 2019 - 11:36 PM

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T14 and Ram II are both kind of garbage, respectively, the KV-220 and Churchill III of the poor men. M4 Improved is mediocre, but has better gun handling than Ram II, is quite mobile, and can bounce shots on own tier on occasion, and has fast rate of fire.

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View PostlnfernaI, on 25 November 2019 - 11:36 PM, said:

T14 and Ram II are both kind of garbage, respectively, the KV-220 and Churchill III of the poor men. M4 Improved is mediocre, but has better gun handling than Ram II, is quite mobile, and can bounce shots on own tier on occasion, and has fast rate of fire.

 

To be fair, at least the T14 doesn't have a butter turret unlike the 220. As I've had more aggressive rounds in that vs the 220. Only saving grace the 220 has is when everyone aims at the hull. And the Ram II armor is not useless vs 110 pen or lower at some angles. And then you can just use the ROF like the Churchill to eat them up. The only thing M4 has going for it is great base view range. As I got mine up to 460 with optics. As vs +2 that gun handling with 92 pen is only gonna get you that far.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 26 November 2019 - 01:25 AM, said:

 

To be fair, at least the T14 doesn't have a butter turret unlike the 220. As I've had more aggressive rounds in that vs the 220. Only saving grace the 220 has is when everyone aims at the hull. And the Ram II armor is not useless vs 110 pen or lower at some angles. And then you can just use the ROF like the Churchill to eat them up. The only thing M4 has going for it is great base view range. As I got mine up to 460 with optics

T14 has no saving grace, but so does KV-220. they both capitalise on the average idiocy in these tiers when people have no clue where to aim, even when things like stock 76mm of KV-1 and stock turret of KV-1 give an obvious hint. but no, they have to shoot the KV-3 hull, because that is impossible to miss!

Ram II armor is a gimmick. Alot of tanks have 110 pen as base or more, Chi-Nu having 120-130 on it's standard, same for Chi-Nu Kai and 155 on premium. if your armor on either M4 Improved or Ram II works, then that usually means either the player can't aim for s**t, is plain bad at the game, or RNG decided to save/spare you.

The only mediums on tier 5 that have actual ''armor'' are things like Matilda IV, Matilda BPrince,etc, but they are mediums only in name, but still weighed on MM as mediums because of their class designation. 

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 . As vs +2 that gun handling with 92 pen is only gonna get you that far.

 

what 92 pen? i have 127 for standard.

have I taught you nothing when it comes to Darwinism?

the mentality of suicide when people get bottom tier is the worst possible of all.


Edited by lnfernaI, 26 November 2019 - 12:40 AM.


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I went for T14. Churchill iii smacks all 3 of these btw.

Richthoffen #19 Posted 26 November 2019 - 09:09 AM

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went for the Ram, already got the M4 (bad tank) from the loot boxes.

for me the decisive factor was the RoF, T14 has more alpha but that gets offset by the higher Rof on the Ram.

that and the beter topspeed, accuracy, pen both AP and APCR while having the same view range and non reliable armor on both tanks



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i have them all - and they all suck :-)




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