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Maick3l #1 Posted 16 November 2019 - 09:02 PM

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Beginning to suspect Wargaming has a "naughty list" with rule disobeying players. The matchmaker is clearly designed for more losses than victories to occur. Every parameter other than win rate is going up. Win rate is going down and fast with about -10 to -14% on average each month. How a player can improve his play and only win about 36-40% matches is beyond me

Edited by Maick3l, 16 November 2019 - 09:03 PM.


shikaka9 #2 Posted 16 November 2019 - 09:05 PM

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straight to WG blacklist, gj

GodTank2 #3 Posted 16 November 2019 - 09:06 PM

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How can the matchmaker be designed for more losses than victories when in every game 1 team is the winner and 1 is the loser?

Maick3l #4 Posted 16 November 2019 - 09:15 PM

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View PostGodTank2, on 16 November 2019 - 09:06 PM, said:

How can the matchmaker be designed for more losses than victories when in every game 1 team is the winner and 1 is the loser?


Not for everyone, obviously. It's possible for an algorithm to place certain players in teams with smaller chances. I'm just putting it out as a possibility. Many businesses try to get rid of "problematic" clients in various and sneaky ways


Edited by Maick3l, 16 November 2019 - 09:20 PM.


barison1 #5 Posted 16 November 2019 - 09:31 PM

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if you have 42% winrate with 137 games while having 1.6k wn8 you should start wondering if it isnt due to yourself aswell, when is that damage done? last min of game while Edited redline? suiciding in doing couple shots of dmg and dying?

 

 

sure it can happen with plain bad luck, but just stop being a tinfoil and instantly complain MM IS RIIIIGGEEEEEEED


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Nitro_Tank #6 Posted 16 November 2019 - 09:37 PM

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Well technically if you are bang-in-the-middle-average and you win 50% and lose 50%, you will have sub 50% winrate because of draws occuring.

Shivvering #7 Posted 16 November 2019 - 09:42 PM

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View PostMaick3l, on 16 November 2019 - 09:02 PM, said:

Beginning to suspect Wargaming has a "naughty list" with rule disobeying players. The matchmaker is clearly designed for more losses than victories to occur. Every parameter other than win rate is going up. Win rate is going down and fast with about -10 to -14% on average each month. How a player can improve his play and only win about 36-40% matches is beyond me

 

Just curious...what rules do you regularly disobey to get this perceived special treatment from WG?



LincolnTank #8 Posted 16 November 2019 - 09:47 PM

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Maick3l #9 Posted 16 November 2019 - 09:55 PM

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View Postbarison1, on 16 November 2019 - 09:31 PM, said:

if you have 42% winrate with 137 games while having 1.6k wn8 you should start wondering if it isnt due to yourself aswell, when is that damage done? last min of game while Edited redline? suiciding in doing couple shots of dmg and dying?

 

 

sure it can happen with plain bad luck, but just stop being a tinfoil and instantly complain MM IS RIIIIGGEEEEEEED


How predictable. When you can't come up with a counter argument, you make assumptions, exaggerate, nitpick, insult etc. I said I have "36-40% win rate" and this isn't normal even for a player that afks all matches. Even if the team had only 10 players, a constant afk player should have 40% win rate on average with a small margin of error. He is one out of 10 and accounts for 10%, on average. That's precise math. Since you brought up wn8, my recent is always between 1.6-2.2K which counts as an afk Edited an above average - great player. Their words, not mine. "last min of game while wanking redline? suiciding in doing couple shots of dmg and dying?' No and no. Most of the damage is done in mid battle. "stop being a tinfoi" I said I put it out AS A POSSIBILITY.. to see what other people think. I get it, I'm just a 'bad kamikaze camping Edited ' who makes up conspiracies to justify his losses. Thank you for your response.

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View PostShivvering, on 16 November 2019 - 09:42 PM, said:

 

Just curious...what rules do you regularly disobey to get this perceived special treatment from WG?


I insult players and get chat banned a lot.

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View PostNitro_Tank, on 16 November 2019 - 09:37 PM, said:

Well technically if you are bang-in-the-middle-average and you win 50% and lose 50%, you will have sub 50% winrate because of draws occuring.


See my response to @barison1


Edited by Asklepi0s, 17 November 2019 - 10:25 AM.


Shivvering #10 Posted 16 November 2019 - 10:02 PM

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View PostMaick3l, on 16 November 2019 - 09:55 PM, said:


How predictable. When you can't come up with a counter argument, you make assumptions, exaggerate, nitpick, insult etc. I said I have "36-40% win rate" and this isn't normal even for a player that afks all matches. Even if the team had only 10 players, a constant afk player should have 40% win rate on average with a small margin of error. He is one out of 10 and accounts for 10%, on average. That's precise math. Since you brought up wn8, my recent is always between 1.6-2.2K which counts as an afk Edited an above average - great player. Their words, not mine. "last min of game while wanking redline? suiciding in doing couple shots of dmg and dying?' No and no. Most of the damage is done in mid battle. "stop being a tinfoi" I said I put it out AS A POSSIBILITY.. to see what other people think. I get it, I'm just a 'bad kamikaze camping Edited ' who makes up conspiracies to justify his losses. Thank you for your response.

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I insult players and get chat banned a lot.

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See my response to @barison1

Have you tried not being a toxic Edited in chat, see if that boosts your WR?


Edited by Asklepi0s, 17 November 2019 - 10:25 AM.


Maick3l #11 Posted 16 November 2019 - 10:08 PM

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View PostShivvering, on 16 November 2019 - 10:02 PM, said:

Have you tried not being a toxic asshat in chat, see if that boosts your WR?


I don't think it's a 2 way ticket. This isn't a church. Anyway, have you tried thinking about the original topic? I know it's not a question and more of a possibility I put forward. Any opinion regarding it? :)



Shivvering #12 Posted 16 November 2019 - 10:12 PM

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View PostMaick3l, on 16 November 2019 - 10:08 PM, said:


I don't think it's a 2 way ticket. This isn't a church. Anyway, have you tried thinking about the original topic? I know it's not a question and more of a possibility I put forward. Any opinion regarding it? :)

 

Well it's a simple scientific experiment, ain't int? You think you get put on bad teams because you are a heinous pathetic toxic excuse for oxygen when you get behind a keyboard.

 

Try being nice in chat, or just say nothing at all, and see if your WR goes up.

 

If it does, there may be some merit to your original post together with a warning on how to behave.

 

If it doesn't, just be less toxic anyways... everyone wins.

 



Nitro_Tank #13 Posted 16 November 2019 - 10:14 PM

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Acting like an adult and being calm and relaxed ingame goes a long way. Don't pull your team down and most importantly don't pull yourself down by releasing toxins everywhere :)

barison1 #14 Posted 16 November 2019 - 10:17 PM

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View PostMaick3l, on 16 November 2019 - 09:55 PM, said:


How predictable. When you can't come up with a counter argument, you make assumptions, exaggerate, nitpick, insult etc. I said I have "36-40% win rate" and this isn't normal even for a player that afks all matches. Even if the team had only 10 players, a constant afk player should have 40% win rate on average with a small margin of error. He is one out of 10 and accounts for 10%, on average. That's precise math. Since you brought up wn8, my recent is always between 1.6-2.2K which counts as an afk Edited an above average - great player. Their words, not mine. "last min of game while wanking redline? suiciding in doing couple shots of dmg and dying?' No and no. Most of the damage is done in mid battle. "stop being a tinfoi" I said I put it out AS A POSSIBILITY.. to see what other people think. I get it, I'm just a 'bad kamikaze camping Edited ' who makes up conspiracies to justify his losses. Thank you for your response.

wot-life shows 42% winrate with 137 games and 1.6k wn8 of past 30days. look it up yourself, will show the same

 

also do like how you mention that i so exaggerate, nitpick, insult. plain irony

 

 

 

https://en.wot-life.com/eu/player/Maick3l-524941677/


Edited by Asklepi0s, 17 November 2019 - 10:25 AM.


Maick3l #15 Posted 16 November 2019 - 10:25 PM

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View Postbarison1, on 16 November 2019 - 10:17 PM, said:

wot-life shows 42% winrate with 137 games and 1.6k wn8 of past 30days. look it up yourself, will show the same

 

also do like how you mention that i so exaggerate, nitpick, insult. plain irony

 

 

 

https://en.wot-life.com/eu/player/Maick3l-524941677/


So this is your definitive answer? That a player with 1600 wn8 should have 42% win rate? This is correct right? Oh the irony



barison1 #16 Posted 16 November 2019 - 10:27 PM

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View PostMaick3l, on 16 November 2019 - 10:25 PM, said:


So this is your definitive answer? That a player with 1600 wn8 should have 42% win rate? This is correct right? Oh the irony


never mentioned that

 

just stated you should rethink how you been playing, as that is quite the possiblility aswell. and what i mentioned aswell it might be plain bad luck

 

but no there is no such rigged mm of people placed on wg their naughty list



Maick3l #17 Posted 16 November 2019 - 10:31 PM

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View Postbarison1, on 16 November 2019 - 10:27 PM, said:


never mentioned that

 

just stated you should rethink how you been playing, as that is quite the possiblility aswell. and what i mentioned aswell it might be plain bad luck

 

but no there is no such rigged mm of people placed on wg their naughty list


This is different. A naughty list sounds ridiculous. I get it. No insult or exaggeration here.

https://ibb.co/G7jB14f - this is where I got my wn8 and wr statistics. They're clear as spring water. I haven't made them up, or anything else you insinuate


Edited by Maick3l, 16 November 2019 - 10:33 PM.


Maick3l #18 Posted 16 November 2019 - 10:49 PM

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View PostShivvering, on 16 November 2019 - 10:12 PM, said:

 

Well it's a simple scientific experiment, ain't int? You think you get put on bad teams because you are a heinous pathetic toxic excuse for oxygen when you get behind a keyboard.

 

Try being nice in chat, or just say nothing at all, and see if your WR goes up.

 

If it does, there may be some merit to your original post together with a warning on how to behave.

 

If it doesn't, just be less toxic anyways... everyone wins.

 


Lol. No! If WR improves after supposedly being lifted off a blacklist, that means wg committed fraud. Funny how you miss the elephant in the room



Homer_J #19 Posted 16 November 2019 - 11:07 PM

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Go here and either feed your replays into Baldrickk's tool or pass them to him for analysis.

 

That way you will have scientific proof the mm is giving you bad teams.

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NUKLEAR_SLUG #20 Posted 16 November 2019 - 11:38 PM

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View PostMaick3l, on 16 November 2019 - 10:49 PM, said:


Lol. No! If WR improves after supposedly being lifted off a blacklist, that means wg committed fraud. Funny how you miss the elephant in the room

 

There's no elephant. If you're trying to blame WG rigging your games for your 42% WR because your a Edited in chat then the solution is simple, keep your mouth shut. There will be two possible outcomes. Either your WR will go up, which will prove WG rigged your games or it'll make no difference to your WR because there is no rigging and you just suck. 


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