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Community #1 Posted 22 November 2019 - 06:00 AM

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Loud as metal or silent as a ghost? You choose!

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George_Walverth #2 Posted 22 November 2019 - 06:07 AM

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No black friday this year ? 

wolfsrain #3 Posted 22 November 2019 - 06:10 AM

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View PostGeorge_Walverth, on 22 November 2019 - 07:07 AM, said:

No black friday this year ? 

 

That is next week... provided that they will be able to make it work....



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Ru servers have it! And we nope...strange...

8126Jakobsson #5 Posted 22 November 2019 - 06:53 AM

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So is Primo Victoria the sneaky one? :hiding:

Negativvv #6 Posted 22 November 2019 - 07:09 AM

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Already have the Primo but no idea why, it's an OK Med but nothing more. The APCR is nice tho.

 

Even 90 has always intrigued me but it's low engine power and low clip size puts me off as the WV meta means mistakes get punished hard. 13 57 which I already have is probably more effective tier for tier. 



env1ro #7 Posted 22 November 2019 - 08:11 AM

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ELC EVEN 90 http://wotgarage.net/france/8/61505/elc-even-90

Primo Victoria http://wotgarage.net/sweden/8/52609/p:victoria

 

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I pass this. I would like to buy a premium Centurion but that would be the 5/1. I hope they will sell it again latest at the advent calendar. 

Cobra6 #9 Posted 22 November 2019 - 08:26 AM

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While the EVEN90 is doing fine win rate wise across the board, it's one of the least competitive light tanks in the game. Yes it has insane Camo and it's very sneaky but WoT matches are won by either of two condition:

- All enemy tanks are killed.

- Base is capped.

 

The DPM of the EVEN90 is criminally low for a T8 light (It's tier 1 level DPM) and the gun handling is beyond help. On top of that it also does almost 9% less damage per shot then all other T8 90mm guns because of Reasons( tm).

The problem with having to rely on team mates in WoT to do the damage is exactly that, having to rely on team mates, which in most cases can't be trusted to do the right thing at the right time to win matches.

 

So unless you like to play only reactively (and thus having very little direct influence over the battles you play) the EVEN90 is a good tank for you. However, if you like to play aggressively and have a direct impact on the matches you play, the EVEN90 is not the tank for you as it simply can't be trusted to do the job consistently.

 

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Begemotas_ #10 Posted 22 November 2019 - 08:45 AM

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Today shouldnt start black friday? There isnt any information about that.

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View PostCobra6, on 22 November 2019 - 08:26 AM, said:

While the EVEN90 is doing fine win rate wise across the board, it's one of the least competitive light tanks in the game. Yes it has insane Camo and it's very sneaky but WoT matches are won by either of two condition:

- All enemy tanks are killed.

- Base is capped.

 

The DPM of the EVEN90 is criminally low for a T8 light (It's tier 1 level DPM) and the gun handling is beyond help. On top of that it also does almost 9% less damage per shot then all other T8 90mm guns because of Reasons( tm).

The problem with having to rely on team mates in WoT to do the damage is exactly that, having to rely on team mates, which in most cases can't be trusted to do the right thing at the right time to win matches.

 

So unless you like to play only reactively (and thus having very little direct influence over the battles you play) the EVEN90 is a good tank for you. However, if you like to play aggressively and have a direct impact on the matches you play, the EVEN90 is not the tank for you as it simply can't be trusted to do the job consistently.

 

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That's what puts me off buying one... I have the T92 LT and that thing is unbalanced enough but at least it's gun and DPM are functional at defending itself. Even 90s seem to die very quickly if they attempt to fight anything.



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View PostBegemotas_, on 22 November 2019 - 07:45 AM, said:

Today shouldnt start black friday? There isnt any information about that.

 

It is next weekend, there was info about it:
https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/sneak-peek-november-2019/



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View PostCobra6, on 22 November 2019 - 07:26 AM, said:

While the EVEN90 is doing fine win rate wise across the board, it's one of the least competitive light tanks in the game. Yes it has insane Camo and it's very sneaky but WoT matches are won by either of two condition:

- All enemy tanks are killed.

- Base is capped.

 

The DPM of the EVEN90 is criminally low for a T8 light (It's tier 1 level DPM) and the gun handling is beyond help. On top of that it also does almost 9% less damage per shot then all other T8 90mm guns because of Reasons( tm).

The problem with having to rely on team mates in WoT to do the damage is exactly that, having to rely on team mates, which in most cases can't be trusted to do the right thing at the right time to win matches.

 

So unless you like to play only reactively (and thus having very little direct influence over the battles you play) the EVEN90 is a good tank for you. However, if you like to play aggressively and have a direct impact on the matches you play, the EVEN90 is not the tank for you as it simply can't be trusted to do the job consistently.

 

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DPM and Effective DPM are different. Even is traditionally a light you will not fire often in compared to the others. I however play my lights almost identical to mediums and manage just fine dealing damage in the even. What really limits it is the gun handling more so than anything else. 

 

Only situation the DPM really lacks is where if you were in another tank you could sit out farming without a care in the world, which rarely happens. 

 

Unload, runaway, unload, run away. Damage racks up nicely, almost did 5k on cliff doing that 



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View PostGeorge_Walverth, on 22 November 2019 - 05:07 AM, said:

No black friday this year ? 


Or Black market. 


Edited by StinkyCamper, 22 November 2019 - 09:13 AM.


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View PostNegativvv, on 22 November 2019 - 08:53 AM, said:

That's what puts me off buying one... I have the T92 LT and that thing is unbalanced enough but at least it's gun and DPM are functional at defending itself. Even 90s seem to die very quickly if they attempt to fight anything.


Yeah you don't want to pick fights with it. It's a British light in that way. But when played like that you tend to live longer and in the end get more done on average, so it's quite alright as long as you can keep a cool head.

And the Even is tiny, super cute and fun. So there's that. You don't play it to be a n00bslayer69 tryhard.

 

Some gunhandling buffs would be nice though.  



Nordstroem #16 Posted 22 November 2019 - 09:22 AM

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Are we ever going to see a plain Strv 81? I've seen a garage icon for it in the game files in the past.

 

Actually, I'd much prefer for my Primo Victoria to become a skin which I put on a plain Strv 81, rather than them being two separate tanks.

 

Actually, I'd like that for Skorpion G too (I have both it and the plain one).

 

Oh, and for the Mauerbrecher (I have both of it as well).

 

Oh, and for the leKpz M 41 90 mm GF (I have both, but sold the GF variant, though I can apparently buy it back again if I want, which I would if it became a skin rather than a separate tank).

 

Oh, and for the AMX 13 57 GF (If I had known that a plain version would be released I would not have bought the GF version)

 

Hell, you could do it for T26E5 and the American tanks which have black versions. Also for the AMX M4 mle. 49 with it's Liberté version. And Object 252U with it's Defender version. I'm sure there's many others. Just go on and take advantage of the system for skins that you created. If a cool skin is released for a tank I have I will most likely buy it and I much prefer to be able to switch between a cool skin and regular camouflage on a single tank rather than have two separate tanks.

Of course, I can see the issue with doing this. Not everyone would like it, so make it optional. Also give the option of picking either tank's stats or merging their stats.

 

Oh! Sorry. Back on topic.
I want a plain Strv 81.



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All these tanks over and over again. Guess the Senlac is so OP that it will never be sold again....

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View PostCobra6, on 22 November 2019 - 08:26 AM, said:

While the EVEN90 is doing fine win rate wise across the board, it's one of the least competitive light tanks in the game. Yes it has insane Camo and it's very sneaky but WoT matches are won by either of two condition:

- All enemy tanks are killed.

- Base is capped.

 

The DPM of the EVEN90 is criminally low for a T8 light (It's tier 1 level DPM) and the gun handling is beyond help. On top of that it also does almost 9% less damage per shot then all other T8 90mm guns because of Reasons( tm).

The problem with having to rely on team mates in WoT to do the damage is exactly that, having to rely on team mates, which in most cases can't be trusted to do the right thing at the right time to win matches.

 

So unless you like to play only reactively (and thus having very little direct influence over the battles you play) the EVEN90 is a good tank for you. However, if you like to play aggressively and have a direct impact on the matches you play, the EVEN90 is not the tank for you as it simply can't be trusted to do the job consistently.

 

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Don’t quite agree with this sentiment - if you are aggressive early and get into a forward spotting position - this thing can win the game for your team by lighting up everything for your team to target.

 

Though admittedly the suicide run wheelies do crimp the Elc even 90 play-style somewhat.

 

If a buff was incoming for this tank - I would prefer an engine buff over a gun buff as it’s slow to accelerate.



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ELC good, small, cute tank

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View PostBadz360, on 22 November 2019 - 09:46 AM, said:


Don’t quite agree with this sentiment - if you are aggressive early and get into a forward spotting position - this thing can win the game for your team by lighting up everything for your team to target.

 

Though admittedly the suicide run wheelies do crimp the Elc even 90 play-style somewhat.

 

If a buff was incoming for this tank - I would prefer an engine buff over a gun buff as it’s slow to accelerate.

I'd take an engine buff, would open my wallet then. As currently it seems too slow, a fast stealthy tank would be able to better ride the wave of the battle and be involved without exploding.






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