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Erwin_Von_Braun #1 Posted 23 November 2019 - 09:10 PM

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Hi all

 

Just unlocked the Sheridan - it's not the prettiest is it?

Has anyone had any experience playing this monstrosity?

I'm told that if I take it to Z'Ha'Dum it will die - be this true?


 

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Edited by Erwin_Von_Braun, 23 November 2019 - 09:11 PM.


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Sheridan is a light/medium hybrid which unfortunately makes it kind of useless. It's pretty big and has fairly low camo which means it will get spotted early and killed, so if you're going to spot you need to stick with passive bush spotting. Sheridan however has a really good fire power by light tank standards, unfortunately it's by light tank standards which means low penetration, bad accuracy and higher penetration drop off. So that's the issue, Sheridan is not as good as other lights when it comes to spotting and its fire power is not nearly as good as it's on a medium tank. If you want to scout you should stick with T-100 LT or EBR 105 and if you want a mobile platform that kills stuff pick a medium tank. 

 

PS. derp gun actually has worse soft stats compared to T49, so you're stuck with 105 mm gun if you want to be competitive 



8126Jakobsson #4 Posted 23 November 2019 - 10:42 PM

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A very mobile medium with full camo on the move and the best gun in its class. Which perhaps doesn't say all that much since the rest ranges from meh to garbage. But still. It's pretty nice. Not a looker though, that's true.

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I love playing the Sheridan with the 152mm. It's way more reliable than the T49. The T49 with 152mm was just too frustrating for me.

Sure I won't encounter tier 7 tanks, but the tiers I encounter still give plenty of nice oppertunities.

 

Anyway, it's not a proper scout, but more of a support tank.

If anyone demands you to go scout early game, they obviously have no idea what they are talking about.

It might be able to spot some things late game though.

I haven't tried the smaller gun, I hear it's pretty good as well. But I just use the 152mm for the novelty and just the fun that the derp can give me.



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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 23 November 2019 - 08:10 PM, said:

Just unlocked the Sheridan - it's not the prettiest is it?

 

To be honest, it doesn't look so bad if you take off all the boxy spaced armour.

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 24 November 2019 - 03:58 AM, said:

 

To be honest, it doesn't look so bad if you take off all the boxy spaced armour.

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That actually looks rather good - wonder what WG was thinking when they went for the version that we have?

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Just got it as well and surprisingly enough it's one of my best performing light tanks. I think it has the highest view range (insane with optics and food), but especially the alpha makes it a really good dmg dealer.

tumppi776 #9 Posted 24 November 2019 - 12:23 PM

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its a bad tank. which is best left unplayed. only wz 132-1 is more useless - so hope u get matches vs that

 

vs battle car / amx / t-100 youre in trouble



Lanrefni #10 Posted 24 November 2019 - 04:33 PM

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Frankly, anyone who outright dismisses or ignores the fact it has the best viewrange of all lights, should be perceived as a troll.

It's only downsides is that it is big by itself, having mediocre camo, and is very light. Anyone using the 152mm on it should be shamed.

 

Think of it as a smaller M60.

Had some great spotting games in it, but only because I have practically maxed out its' viewrange. If you do not have a decent crew with camo,BiA,6th sense and cannot afford either optics or food, save yourself some pain and do not play it at all.

 

Performs well as a medium too. Do mind using the 105mm, because that is far more competitive than 152mm would ever be.



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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 24 November 2019 - 03:58 AM, said:

 

To be honest, it doesn't look so bad if you take off all the boxy spaced armour.

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Has that 3D clay-style appearance. Before texturing etc.



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View PostlnfernaI, on 24 November 2019 - 04:33 PM, said:

Frankly, anyone who outright dismisses or ignores the fact it has the best viewrange of all lights, should be perceived as a troll.

It's only downsides is that it is big by itself, having mediocre camo, and is very light. Anyone using the 152mm on it should be shamed.

 

Think of it as a smaller M60.

Had some great spotting games in it, but only because I have practically maxed out its' viewrange. If you do not have a decent crew with camo,BiA,6th sense and cannot afford either optics or food, save yourself some pain and do not play it at all.

 

Performs well as a medium too. Do mind using the 105mm, because that is far more competitive than 152mm would ever be.

But the 152 is more FUN



AeyT #13 Posted 25 November 2019 - 10:55 AM

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Kuvahaun tulos haulle sheridan wot

I think the sheridan actually looks pretty good, its sadly not a good tank though.



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View PostlnfernaI, on 24 November 2019 - 03:33 PM, said:

Frankly, anyone who outright dismisses or ignores the fact it has the best viewrange of all lights, should be perceived as a troll.

It's only downsides is that it is big by itself, having mediocre camo, and is very light. Anyone using the 152mm on it should be shamed.

 

most of the time any VR above 445m is useless.

 

I run it with binocs and out spot practically nothing (495m vr on the move, 560m with binocs). the better LT's have such high camos and bushes protect TD's.

 

Mean while Sheridans bad camo values mean your get spotted the second you try to do any kind of meaningful scouting.

 

What youre left with is a really bad medium tank.


Edited by tumppi776, 25 November 2019 - 10:58 AM.


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worse camo than most other lights, but i like it because of the gun depression.
although as most ppl already said, its not a good spotter/scout, but if you can get rid of the enemy scout/spotter you can be quite useful



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View Posttumppi776, on 25 November 2019 - 11:55 AM, said:

most of the time any VR above 445m is useless.

 

I run it with binocs and out spot practically nothing (495m vr on the move, 560m with binocs). the better LT's have such high camos and bushes protect TD's.

 

Mean while Sheridans bad camo values mean your get spotted the second you try to do any kind of meaningful scouting.

 

What youre left with is a really bad medium tank.

I can safely assume you're playing it wrong, then. There's no other logical explanation. Trick to playing most light tanks is staying alive as long as possible, especially in corridor maps. You don't have to do much, and if somebody complains about you not playing up to their standards, just ignore them, as explaining anything is usually a waste of time and brain cells. More aggressive and stealthy lights can afford to take more risks, such as T-100 LT being invisible in a bush with camo net next to 50m away being barely outside autospot distance* from enemy tanks and EBR 105 taking flanking shots, but things like Sheridan can't afford as much risks, and are forced to stay behind for awhile.

It matters not if you contribute to the game early or late, it's still contribution; in the end you can really only trust yourself and you should accept that this mentality has encapsulated the mind of everyone else on your team, because actual coordination is a rare occurence outside of platoons.

 

My mistake with most LTs is that I keep getting enticed to take risks, but overestimate my chances of success by not reading the map well enough; usually ends up with me taking signifcant damage that outweights my contribution. They are not easy to master.

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View PostBaldrickk, on 25 November 2019 - 11:51 AM, said:

But the 152 is more FUN

Does that reflect on the end game stats?

I can bet one of my kidneys it does not.


Edited by lnfernaI, 25 November 2019 - 12:39 PM.


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View PostlnfernaI, on 25 November 2019 - 12:28 PM, said:

Does that reflect on the end game stats?

I can bet one of my kidneys it does not.

Maybe not,  but I don't play for stats. 

 

I will try to win any battle I'm in, but I'm playing this game for my enjoyment.

Luckily,  doing well and having fun usually go hand in hand. 

 

The derp on the tier 9 and 10 US lights is otherwise unique,  and a reason to play the tanks,  for the experience.

 

There are actually situations where the derp is superior; hitting paper targets with a single shot, when you need to retreat between shots, quick hit and runs, peppering the front of armoured vehicles...

 

My most recent T49 game was a Lakeville std battle. 

Breaking form, based on the tank composition, I actually went to the valley. 

I proceeded to fire the first shot of the game and kill their one SPG that was pulling behind a rock.

With the 105, that wouldn't have been a kill. 

Instead,  they had no arty support and the team went on to win both the valley and the city, whereas we would have been outnumbered and hit by arty every time we pulled forwards in the valley. 

 

These moments may not be enough to turn the tables on the 105 overall, but they do make it fun. 

 

https://youtu.be/WxtcsC-L_iE still the most fun I've had in WOT for a long time. 

 



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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 24 November 2019 - 09:11 AM, said:

That actually looks rather good - wonder what WG was thinking when they went for the version that we have?

:unsure:

 

Well it has spaced armor all over the hull, which is in reality quite small compared to it, so you rarely get penned with HE (only turret shots and maybe through the tracks), and you get an occasional non pen where they miss the hull underneath. 


Edited by fisco77, 25 November 2019 - 09:51 PM.


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View Postfisco77, on 25 November 2019 - 10:50 PM, said:

 

Well it has spaced armor all over the hull, which is in reality quite small compared to it, so you rarely get penned with HE (only turret shots and maybe through the tracks), and you get an occasional non pen where they miss the hull underneath. 

there's no such thing as penning with HE through tracks, because, HE will auto explode outside the tank, i.e. the point of impact, because parts of the armor model such as the gun or tracks are considered spaced armor.

however it may happen on HEAT,if the pen is exceptionally high,hence you can often see some tanks like T92 getting damaged when shot at the mantlet through the gun,and breaking the gun in the process.


Edited by lnfernaI, 27 November 2019 - 08:24 AM.


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If you want a single shot tank, play any of the other T10 lights.

Play it with the 152mm and use it as a damage dealer to heavy armor, like the T49.

 

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