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NUKLEAR_SLUG #41 Posted 24 November 2019 - 12:38 PM

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View Postjabster, on 24 November 2019 - 10:59 AM, said:

Gun directions on the mini-map was made illegal recently and dynamic religious ad timers have always been illegal under the FPP.

View PostBordhaw, on 24 November 2019 - 11:11 AM, said:

Which is why these mods were recently banned. 


Yes, that was the point..



UserZer00 #42 Posted 24 November 2019 - 12:47 PM

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View Postjabster, on 24 November 2019 - 11:38 AM, said:


I believe that the policy of CS for these type of issues is to direct you to the forum as they don’t deal with them at all.

 

Then a post in the proper section of the forums is required at once!

 

Or maybe it's better to wait from Monday to Friday from 09h to 18h when there might be someone who reads it?

 

Or wait till Wednesday afternoon at 15h, when they have sifted through all the support issues from the weekend and are bored enough to read the forums?

 

Or write an algorithm to post the topic to the forums at random time intervals?

 

Life used to be much more simple prior to computers.

 

Sigh



CmdRatScabies #43 Posted 24 November 2019 - 12:48 PM

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View Postjabster, on 24 November 2019 - 10:59 AM, said:

 

Gun directions on the mini-map was made illegal recently and dynamic religious ad timers have always been illegal under the FPP.

What the heck is a "dynamic religious ad timer"?



jabster #44 Posted 24 November 2019 - 12:51 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 24 November 2019 - 11:38 AM, said:


Yes, that was the point..

 

I'm not sure I understand your point as just giving an advantage is not the only criteria used to determine whether a mod is illegal.

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 24 November 2019 - 11:48 AM, said:

What the heck is a "dynamic religious ad timer"?

 

Interesting auto correct there!


Edited by jabster, 24 November 2019 - 12:53 PM.


Temid23 #45 Posted 24 November 2019 - 01:08 PM

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View PostScanmen, on 24 November 2019 - 10:19 AM, said:

 

Do you have any other such smart advice? :facepalm:
If not, check out https://wgmods.net for enabled and verified mods.

 

 

Whats wrong with challenging something you consider unfair advantage?

I know this mod is there as part of mod packs or stand alone w/e, its not a first instance when something declared as cheat find it way in there (especially as part of mod packs.....).

 

Use or don't use w/e mods you want, report or don't report w/e you consider cheat. As a player and customer you have full right to ignore this kind of staff or demand clear answer from game producer.



Jumping_Turtle #46 Posted 24 November 2019 - 01:27 PM

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Wargaming is a bit weird in these things. The white dead tank mod clearly gives you an advantage over the vanilla player but somehow this is allowed :

 



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Looks good, I have aslains pack installed so am going to try it. :B

Venom7000 #48 Posted 24 November 2019 - 01:42 PM

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Let me just say few things guys:

  1. First of all,  thank you for keeping it civil and discussing your views like functioning adults. Keep up! (Both here and in other threads)
  2. Again, Circon is not the sole target here. I just used his stream as example because it was the most fresh in my mind . I don't want to get him in trouble . And I know that he won't get in trouble (because the mod is legal).
  3. As someone mentioned (sry Im on my phone. Cant look up all the comments names), mods that enchace your gaming experience in terms of visual and sound mods like (skins, gun sounds and voice mods) are fine with everyone . But to use mods that do the thinking for you (reload times, remembers each tanks last hp on minimap...), is not exactly something I condone. I mean if you are not able to remember or figure out these things yourself and your opponent can... well that is what we call a more: skilled, experienced player. 
  4. @Jumping_Turtle yep that is something that you as a player should be able to differentiate. I agree with you, its weird that this is legal. Knowing this on your own separates you from the dingus with 100 battles who sees a siluete behind a wall and then shoots the wall 50 times.
  5. Also @Jumping_Turtle, maybe a mod that just outlines the parts or the tank that are visible to you (parts that are for example not behind rubble/cover. So you can snipe from the bush at places that the tank is really sticking out? See that is something I would secretly like, especially now that I started playing more meds and tds. But I would never download that mod. Because it does the heavy lifting for you. And helps you not to have to peak outside the bush to see. :)

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GodTank2 #49 Posted 24 November 2019 - 02:25 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 24 November 2019 - 01:27 PM, said:

Wargaming is a bit weird in these things. The white dead tank mod clearly gives you an advantage over the vanilla player but somehow this is allowed :

 

 

 

Increase your graphics settings and the difference is abit more visible.


Edited by GodTank2, 24 November 2019 - 02:26 PM.


CmdRatScabies #50 Posted 24 November 2019 - 02:29 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 24 November 2019 - 01:27 PM, said:

Wargaming is a bit weird in these things. The white dead tank mod clearly gives you an advantage over the vanilla player but somehow this is allowed :

I used to use that.  I found it gave a clearer visual confirmation that the tank was dead but never really understood why people thought it was such an advantage.  Haven't used it for a while now and notice no difference at all.



jabster #51 Posted 24 November 2019 - 02:41 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 24 November 2019 - 01:29 PM, said:

I used to use that.  I found it gave a clearer visual confirmation that the tank was dead but never really understood why people thought it was such an advantage.  Haven't used it for a while now and notice no difference at all.


The weirder part was you had one part of WG saying it was legal and one part saying that is was the type of mod the dev. partners couldn’t develop.


Edited by jabster, 24 November 2019 - 03:01 PM.


Scanmen #52 Posted 24 November 2019 - 02:44 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 24 November 2019 - 02:29 PM, said:

I used to use that.  I found it gave a clearer visual confirmation that the tank was dead but never really understood why people thought it was such an advantage.  Haven't used it for a while now and notice no difference at all.

 

This clearly shows which part of the drawn part is which tank it belongs to. In low graphics this is a help. Increasing graphic quality, it becomes meaningless.



CmdRatScabies #53 Posted 24 November 2019 - 03:00 PM

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View Postjabster, on 24 November 2019 - 02:41 PM, said:


The weirder part was you had one part of WG saying it was illegal and one part saying that is was the type of mod the dev. partners couldn’t develop.

I think some servers used to outlaw things that were legal on other servers as well.  White dead tanks were just a tank skin.  You could have achieved the same by skinning all live tanks so they stand out against the dead ones.  Never understood what all the fuss was about - I suspect from players that never tried it and didn't understand how much it didn't achieve what they claimed.



jabster #54 Posted 24 November 2019 - 03:04 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 24 November 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:

I think some servers used to outlaw things that were legal on other servers as well.  White dead tanks were just a tank skin.  You could have achieved the same by skinning all live tanks so they stand out against the dead ones.  Never understood what all the fuss was about - I suspect from players that never tried it and didn't understand how much it didn't achieve what they claimed.


I believe that WG said the list of illegal mods was common across all servers but it all seemed a bit irrelevant as before the automated system the only way to get caught was if you were stupid enough to upload a video of you using mods.



CmdRatScabies #55 Posted 24 November 2019 - 03:06 PM

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View Postjabster, on 24 November 2019 - 03:04 PM, said:


I believe that WG said the list of illegal mods was common across all servers but it all seemed a bit irrelevant as before the automated system the only way to get caught was if you were stupid enough to upload a video of you using mods.

It is post fair play but it was down to each region before.

 

View PostScanmen, on 24 November 2019 - 02:44 PM, said:

 

This clearly shows which part of the drawn part is which tank it belongs to. In low graphics this is a help. Increasing graphic quality, it becomes meaningless.

I've never played on low graphics so maybe that's the answer.



jabster #56 Posted 24 November 2019 - 03:13 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 24 November 2019 - 02:06 PM, said:

It is post fair play but it was down to each region before.

 

I've never played on low graphics so maybe that's the answer.


I could be wrong, memory and all that, but I’m pretty sure that when FPP became a thing one the EU CM’s said the list had always been the same across all servers. Not that I think it made much difference either way.



Venom7000 #57 Posted 24 November 2019 - 03:39 PM

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The only part about lowering or increasing graphics that I can vouch is detrimental to your in game performance is when you enable extra destructibility physics. Where instead of the car and wall just vanishing when you hit them, they instead explode in fire and smoke and rubble.
I cant count how many times I had a piece of wall stuck to my front turret and literally cant see anything in sniper view until the object despawns.

 

I entertained the idea of turning it off but the graphics are too good to turn off. GG to WG for all the graphics improvements!



Jumping_Turtle #58 Posted 24 November 2019 - 04:22 PM

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View PostGodTank2, on 24 November 2019 - 02:25 PM, said:

 

 

Increase your graphics settings and the difference is abit more visible.

 

I have everything on Ultra. Cant get any higher.



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View PostTemid23, on 24 November 2019 - 09:54 AM, said:

This is the reason why i don't watch streamer mentioned here. This mod is cheat that allow person using it gain unfair advantage while peaking players behind corner/building etc. It shouldn't be legal for this reason. But this is WG they cant do anything in consistent logical way so it's not.

If player "outplay" you using this mod and you have proof he gain unfair advantage (like clip from stream...) You can always try reporting this to support.

Doubt they will do anything anyway :rolleyes:

Well go watch a other streamer then,maybe the one who calls himself famous using xvm :sceptic:



Jumping_Turtle #60 Posted 24 November 2019 - 04:24 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 24 November 2019 - 02:29 PM, said:

I used to use that.  I found it gave a clearer visual confirmation that the tank was dead but never really understood why people thought it was such an advantage.  Haven't used it for a while now and notice no difference at all.

 

Used it too for a while. It surely gave me an advantage, but I found it to be so butt ugly that I stopped using it years ago.







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