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Remove ammo cost from training rooms

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Johnez123 #1 Posted 24 November 2019 - 07:58 PM

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Hello WG!

Could you please remove ammo cost from training rooms. It would be good for new players because they can practice shooting and practice ding enemy shots. WG has tournaments where anyone can participate in. It would be more comfortable to train for example 3v3 or 2v2 with friends in Training rooms if ammo cost removed. In my opinion training room has wrong name because only players who has extra credits can practise shooting and playing in there. It's not worth to train for 8 tier tournaments in there because gold ammos is too expensive for shoot in training rooms..

I hope that u will see this.

 

Regards, Johnez123

 

 


Edited by Johnez123, 24 November 2019 - 08:11 PM.


Ildradil #2 Posted 24 November 2019 - 08:22 PM

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This would actually be so good. I can not see why WG could not do this?

Johnez123 #3 Posted 26 November 2019 - 08:23 PM

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I think ammo didn't cost in training rooms somewhere in wot history. If I'm right I want to hear the reason why they take cost back and why they don't remove it.

NUKLEAR_SLUG #4 Posted 26 November 2019 - 08:39 PM

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You can't practice with standard shells? 

hasnainrakha57 #5 Posted 26 November 2019 - 08:50 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 26 November 2019 - 07:39 PM, said:

You can't practice with standard shells? 

So u want ppl to fire ap round against enemy tank which cannot be penetrated example u r in e100 and against type 5 and u fire ap round at type 5? Ya j have seen these kinds of players a lot and they let the whole team down.....

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View PostJohnez123, on 24 November 2019 - 06:58 PM, said:

Hello WG!

Could you please remove ammo cost from training rooms. It would be good for new players because they can practice shooting and practice ding enemy shots. WG has tournaments where anyone can participate in. It would be more comfortable to train for example 3v3 or 2v2 with friends in Training rooms if ammo cost removed. In my opinion training room has wrong name because only players who has extra credits can practise shooting and playing in there. It's not worth to train for 8 tier tournaments in there because gold ammos is too expensive for shoot in training rooms..

I hope that u will see this.

 

Regards, Johnez123

 

 

Not only ammo they should do this to consumables too...



GodTank2 #6 Posted 26 November 2019 - 08:52 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 26 November 2019 - 08:50 PM, said:

So u want ppl to fire ap round against enemy tank which cannot be penetrated example u r in e100 and against type 5 and u fire ap round at type 5? Ya j have seen these kinds of players a lot and they let the whole team down.....

 

Its training room not random battle. So how can you let your whole team down when its literally training.



Johnez123 #7 Posted 26 November 2019 - 09:16 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 26 November 2019 - 07:39 PM, said:

You can't practice with standard shells? 

Yea u think that guys shooting normal ammo in tournaments :D If u want to train to tournaments you need to shoot gold because you shoot it in tournaments. 

 

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 26 November 2019 - 07:50 PM, said:

So u want ppl to fire ap round against enemy tank which cannot be penetrated example u r in e100 and against type 5 and u fire ap round at type 5? Ya j have seen these kinds of players a lot and they let the whole team down.....

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Not only ammo they should do this to consumables too...

Yep I agree with u but if I need to decide I will decide ammo because thems are more expensive 

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View PostGodTank2, on 26 November 2019 - 07:52 PM, said:

 

Its training room not random battle. So how can you let your whole team down when its literally training.

You didn't get the hasnainrakha57's point. He meant that if peoples can't train free in training rooms they shoot less gold ammo and that's why they let the whole team down in random matches because they can't penetrate some tanks without gold...



hasnainrakha57 #8 Posted 27 November 2019 - 05:55 PM

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View PostGodTank2, on 26 November 2019 - 07:52 PM, said:

 

Its training room not random battle. So how can you let your whole team down when its literally training.

I have seen ppl and it happend to me it was 1v1 in end a full health t57 Ally and less then 100 hp pz7 Ally t57 fired heat rounds at the HULL of pz7 and when when we said load hlHE he fire HE at the hull of pz7 instead of the deck....so he lacked training and I myself never ever tested gold ammo in training room due to cost..



Johnez123 #9 Posted 27 November 2019 - 06:37 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 27 November 2019 - 04:55 PM, said:

I have seen ppl and it happend to me it was 1v1 in end a full health t57 Ally and less then 100 hp pz7 Ally t57 fired heat rounds at the HULL of pz7 and when when we said load hlHE he fire HE at the hull of pz7 instead of the deck....so he lacked training and I myself never ever tested gold ammo in training room due to cost..

Yep that is the problem. People can't train shooting gold ammo because thems are so expensive in training rooms..

 



Robbie_T #10 Posted 27 November 2019 - 11:18 PM

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although i never use it ...its strange you have to pay for ammo costs

Spurtung #11 Posted 28 November 2019 - 12:11 AM

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View PostGodTank2, on 26 November 2019 - 07:52 PM, said:

View Posthasnainrakha57, on 26 November 2019 - 08:50 PM, said:

So u want ppl to fire ap round against enemy tank which cannot be penetrated example u r in e100 and against type 5 and u fire ap round at type 5? Ya j have seen these kinds of players a lot and they let the whole team down.....

Its training room not random battle. So how can you let your whole team down when its literally training.

 

:facepalm:

 

They let their teams down in random battles because they never had the chance to practice in a controlled environment as that becomes costly in the long run. Better now?



evilchaosmonkey #12 Posted 28 November 2019 - 12:51 AM

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I suspect the cost is there to encourage you to play in the main game and not form teams that just play in the training rooms.

It's a slippery slope from asking for this, then through to consumables and then on to asking for credits and xp.

The more popular the rooms become, the more hardware and cash WG have to invest.



Dava_117 #13 Posted 28 November 2019 - 12:57 AM

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This is a quite complex topic. I guess the ammo and consumables cost in training room is there to prevent people from abusing of this feature. If it was completely free, I have the feeling many would spend hours in those, playing in a close lobby, sort like CoD style.

But training room still weight on the servers computational power, so you can run as many training room as you want. And here the ammo cost kicks in to limit this usage. 

 

tl:dr

Removing ammo cost in training room would be nice, but would also open the path to some nasty abuse of those weighting on servers computational power.



Joggaman #14 Posted 28 November 2019 - 05:44 PM

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You don't need to fire a single shell to learn something in training room..

 

 



Edited by Joggaman, 28 November 2019 - 05:46 PM.


evilchaosmonkey #15 Posted 28 November 2019 - 08:17 PM

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View PostJoggaman, on 28 November 2019 - 04:44 PM, said:

You don't need to fire a single shell to learn something in training room..

 

 

 

 

How the hell is that a fish?  Do you lot even know what fish look like?  It looks more like an amputee dinosaur.  I mean truly, wtf.



Erwin_Von_Braun #16 Posted 28 November 2019 - 08:43 PM

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View Postevilchaosmonkey, on 28 November 2019 - 07:17 PM, said:

 

How the hell is that a fish?  Do you lot even know what fish look like?  It looks more like an amputee dinosaur.  I mean truly, wtf.

Have a look at our recruitment thread - if you can see one drawing that looks like an actual fish..........well, you're a better man than I....

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Laukaus #17 Posted 28 November 2019 - 10:47 PM

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if ammo cost in training rooms is removed, the ammo cost will get higher. 

 

WG has to get its profit. 



Johnez123 #18 Posted 29 November 2019 - 11:05 AM

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View PostDava_117, on 27 November 2019 - 11:57 PM, said:

This is a quite complex topic. I guess the ammo and consumables cost in training room is there to prevent people from abusing of this feature. If it was completely free, I have the feeling many would spend hours in those, playing in a close lobby, sort like CoD style.

But training room still weight on the servers computational power, so you can run as many training room as you want. And here the ammo cost kicks in to limit this usage. 

 

tl:dr

Removing ammo cost in training room would be nice, but would also open the path to some nasty abuse of those weighting on servers computational power.

Yep I understand that what do you mean. If wg makes training room completely free they need to add some limit that how many matches you can play per day or something like that to block the server abusing and keeps the players in the random matches too.


Edited by Johnez123, 29 November 2019 - 11:11 AM.


Dava_117 #19 Posted 29 November 2019 - 11:11 AM

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View PostJohnez123, on 29 November 2019 - 11:05 AM, said:

Yep I understand that what do you mean. If wg makes training room completely free they need to add some limit that how many matches you can play per day or something like that to block result like that. 

 

They may also add a training room "rental" fee, depending on the tier used, but it may hit harder new player, if too high, or be totally irrelevant if too low...



Johnez123 #20 Posted 29 November 2019 - 11:19 AM

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Yep. Or if they remove all consumables and ammo cost and add cost per training match. The cost would be dependent on your played tier or dependent on your played random matches count so new players have more lower cost than experienced players. But the cost needs to be moderate. And there must be something limit.

Edited by Johnez123, 29 November 2019 - 11:19 AM.





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