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[Amun_RA]

I am curious to know how easy is it for you to get more credits than you lose, on average, by playing only tier 9 tanks. Please share your opinions/data about this.

 

I am interested in this because I have just got the AE Phase I and I have observed that if I only play this tank, without food consumable and only shooting gold if necessary, I slowly but surely get more credits than I lose. This is very enjoyable because I hate how many credits I lose by playing T55A or other tier 9 or 10 tanks.

And the special repair consumable is not the reason for it (I only win 3k credits/battle). 

 

Edit: if you also run premium time, of course. 

 

Edited by Amun_RA, 25 November 2019 - 12:02 PM.

[Dava_117]

Depends on the tank. But in avarage I can get small profit out of tier 9 games. 

[Balc0ra]

That depends on what I play. As I run non-premium atm. And with no boosters etc on the E50 grind, short as it was. Profit was a rare sight unless I took little to no damage and did a fair bit of damage with no gold back. And a full day of playing it usually had a red on profit on the sessions stats. Less so on HTs with their repair/ammo costs, that tends to drain more. But my 13 90 that I play fairly often get profit easier. As cheaper to repair and usually gets more via assist then wasting ammo. And usually sees a profit more often. And it's not rare to see it having a profit after playing it for a bit.

Edited by Balc0ra, 25 November 2019 - 11:49 AM.

[Shivvering]

Snipy mediums tend to turn a small profit if i remember correctly, Cent 7/1, Leo PTA.

[_6i6_]

Amun_RA, on 25 November 2019 - 12:38 PM, said:

I am curious to know how easy is it for you to get more credits than you lose, on average, by playing only tier 9 tanks. Please share your opinions/data about this.

 

I am interested in this because I have just got the AE Phase I and I have observed that if I only play this tank, without food consumable and only shooting gold if necessary, I slowly but surely get more credits than I lose. This is very enjoyable because I hate how many credits I lose by playing T55A or other tier 9 or 10 tanks.

And the special repair consumable is not the reason for it (I only win 3k credits/battle). 

 

 

premium account or standard?

For me it is difficult to keep a balance of credits just by playing tier  9 since i use a standard account so even good games can be close to 0 or even with loss if the tank is destroyed . However, certain tier 9 tanks i have are usually profitable(Jagdtiger,13 90, skoda t50) by a good margin even with food - ofcourse, no gold ammo used with them.

Otherwise, i make up the losses by playing certain tier 6-8 tanks(including *coughs* arty)

 

[pecopad]

Shivvering, on 25 November 2019 - 11:54 AM, said:

Snipy mediums tend to turn a small profit if i remember correctly, Cent 7/1, Leo PTA.

 

Quite the opposite, the damage/ammo cost is really terrible in this tanks.

 

Regarding the grinding cost of tier 9's, its really a major turn off, so much that now only do it in ToT.

Edited by pecopad, 25 November 2019 - 12:09 PM.

[Frostilicus]

I don't play anything above Tier 8 any more, I'm not really good enough to earn a profit at Tiers 9 & 10, but I used to earn the creds to play my higher tiers by rolling out a few tier 5/6 tanks - as the game intends you to do....

[Lanrefni]

i can safely say that T54E1 will net you -50k on average every game on Premium.

 

most autoloaders do not come cheap, but things like T54E1 depend on spec. ammo to actually be competitive.

talk about powercreep.

[TungstenHitman]

Tier9 isn't really about playing to make credits, it's more about enjoying what's effectively pref MM with tanks that are imho, far superior than even OP tier8 tanks along with being more than adequate to deal with tier10 tanks... most of them anyway, not those usual T10 suspects but then again even most T10 tanks won't deal with those but I digress. 

 

So if you're breaking even at tier9, that's a pretty good deal, so long as you're not blowing credits like Christmas and that depends on, as others outline above, the type of tank but also the type of player too. Tanks that can deal lots of damage with standard pen are going to be fine, tanks that can spot for a living, they will be fine but less reliably so since that's team and map reliant... tanks that unreliably deal damage with standard ammo such as HE slingers like a Type4 or T49 derp will generally be fine most the time whereas any of the tragic standard ammo, 2 key warrior tanks like a T-54 will blow credits like nothing else. 

 

That's the tanks economics out of the way. So far as players go, bad players will lose credits along with gold spammers while better players generally won't lose credits unless they also like gold spamming or running tanks with food. So where a player is good, their tanks standard ammo is good and they STILL lose credits... but why? Well, because they have lots of credits in this case and so they will run their tanks with food for a sharper tank offering, can drop optics for vents and not suffer much view range loss for a lot of performance gain, carry more gold ammo, use it if in doubt, those 50/50 moments where they don't want to be screwed over by RNG giving them the middle finger at crucial moments of the battle and because they can and chose to.... so this is tier 9 economics covered I think.

[demon_tank]

Amun_RA, on 25 November 2019 - 10:38 AM, said:

I am curious to know how easy is it for you to get more credits than you lose, on average, by playing only tier 9 tanks. Please share your opinions/data about this.

 

I am interested in this because I have just got the AE Phase I and I have observed that if I only play this tank, without food consumable and only shooting gold if necessary, I slowly but surely get more credits than I lose. This is very enjoyable because I hate how many credits I lose by playing T55A or other tier 9 or 10 tanks.

And the special repair consumable is not the reason for it (I only win 3k credits/battle). 

 

Edit: if you also run premium time, of course. 

 

Super unicums as long as they dont abuse prem consumables and ammo will make credits even in Tier 10 tanks and without a premium account.

[Enherjaren]

Go for tier 9 meds with decent to good standard pen I would say. 
Cent 7/1, Standard B, Leo pta etc.

Edited by Enherjaren, 25 November 2019 - 01:54 PM.

[SaintMaddenus]

I actually make more profit on T9 than T8 and T10.

I think this is because T10 is a full on gold spam fest and at T9 I am more likely to be a top tier where I can "bully" the T7's  (though mostly got T9 & 8 battles)   I don't make a lot of profit, T 5 & 6 is more profitable for me, but then I am not that good.

[Enherjaren]

pecopad, on 25 November 2019 - 12:08 PM, said:

 

Quite the opposite, the damage/ammo cost is really terrible in this tanks.

 

Regarding the grinding cost of tier 9's, its really a major turn off, so much that now only do it in ToT.

 

You must take into account that these tanks is more likely to get flank shots in and their mobility helps you doing more damage compared to other options at least with premium ammo.
Also as a bonus they are fun to play.

Edited by Enherjaren, 25 November 2019 - 01:56 PM.

[pecopad]

Enherjaren, on 25 November 2019 - 01:56 PM, said:

 

You must take into account that these tanks is more likely to get flank shots in and their mobility helps you doing more damage compared to other options at least with premium ammo.
Also as a bonus they are fun to play.

Credits are a function of damage and ammo cost.

 

The lower the cost per damage the higher the profit. So big damage guns are much better to win credits.

 

High damage and High Pen, is really what you want.

[barison1]

pecopad, on 25 November 2019 - 03:10 PM, said:

Credits are a function of damage and ammo cost.

 

The lower the cost per damage the higher the profit. So big damage guns are much better to win credits.

 

High damage and High Pen, is really what you want.

cent and leo both have pretty high alpha and pen, barely need to shoot prem

 

besides quite bunch t9 tanks have shell costs around 1-1.2k, so nothing special for cent/pta. but quite couple of them rely bit on prem like t54, 430, bc25 ap, e50 which have lowish pen

[Stevies_Team]

I had an awesome game in one of my T9s or 10s...

 

...and made about 300 credits

 

...don't even shoot gold either...

 

If you want bonds then higher tiers are worth pursuing

 

If you want credits then stay well away from 9 and 10

[SteVer1n0]

barison1, on 25 November 2019 - 05:43 PM, said:

cent and leo both have pretty high alpha and pen, barely need to shoot prem

 

besides quite bunch t9 tanks have shell costs around 1-1.2k, so nothing special for cent/pta. but quite couple of them rely bit on prem like t54, 430, bc25 ap, e50 which have lowish pen

I'd say the Cent 7/1 yeah, since standard APCR is the most reliable shell you'll be shooting 90%+ of the time, I only ran AFE and small kits while doing the mark on NA which I wouldn't even think of doing with some other tier 9s with worse gun handling. Gun handling is important because every shot you miss is credits into a black hole, tanks with poor gun handling really benefit from food (the extra view range is nice too) and the additional damage/spotting you get might even offset the 10k cost (ofc you buy it in bulk on discount). The Strv 103-0 is good too, you get set on fire every other shot you take so you might as well run a fire extinguisher over food unless you're like me and run a firefighting directive because food is addictive, and with 308 standard pen you usually don't need to shoot gold unless you have 280ms ping plus terrible aim and hate RNG.

 

If you're looking to enjoy yourself and minmax performance you will lose credits at pretty much any tier, but if you want to be a credit earner at tier 9, be prepared to make some sacrifices in terms of fulfilling your potential and have a limited tank selection.

[pecopad]

barison1, on 25 November 2019 - 05:43 PM, said:

cent and leo both have pretty high alpha and pen, barely need to shoot prem

 

besides quite bunch t9 tanks have shell costs around 1-1.2k, so nothing special for cent/pta. but quite couple of them rely bit on prem like t54, 430, bc25 ap, e50 which have lowish pen

Leo and Cent have 278 and 268 pen which is good,and 390 and 420 which is also good.

 

But ammo costs 1.200 and 1.290 credits, which is 3,08 and 3,07 credits for 1 damage.... Patriot for example is 1,06,STRV is 2,97, T30 is 2,2...

 

Patton for example has 218 pen for a cost of a 2,6 cost in regular ammo, and for same pen has the Cent with gold the cost is 10,25 credits per 1 damage.

 

Most of the tier 9 tanks have almost the double cost per damage has a tier 8... which is too much

[Homer_J]

I once played only tier 9 on a  standard account for six months and broke even.

[Bora_BOOM]

I think that, first of all, one needs to win more than lose to keep the income positive. Second, you need to land your shots, since shells make profit if they do dmg, which is logical.

Also, having a good survival rate and conserving as much HP as possible makes a huge impact, repairs aren't cheap. Also, small repairs pinch off some of the profit. 

Good players can dig into gold shells cause they have good aim and hit ratios and doing dmg with gold is more reliable.

Summarized, make every shot count, save your HP and win. Not EZ, aye... 

Edited by Bora_BOOM, 25 November 2019 - 07:28 PM.