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[Sandbox] Rebalancing SPGs and Their Shells


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ToXicReRoLL #201 Posted 03 December 2019 - 12:44 AM

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View PostKanonenVogel19, on 27 November 2019 - 07:43 PM, said:

WG seriusly how are we supposed to test SPGs when we get Ensk or Himmelsdorf almost all the time, together with a bunch of muppets in their EBRs whose only goal is to yolo artillery? It's almost like you don't want us to actually test this? Maybe thats the point, less people bothering to test, less potential negative feedback?

 

Should I remind you that players come to your Sandbox server in their spare time, without any salary at all, testing out stuff that your testers should actually do, and then you still force them to even grind their tanks there, play on frustrating maps, and dealing with frustrating yoloers? Just what are you thinking?

 

I'm done with this, to be honest I have more fun things to do than getting frustrated.

Haha you want to hide at the Red Line playing a Tank which can make things which is called "Hacks" in other games and you complain about getting killed early in the game like all other tank classes can when they get spotted?  Like "but wargaming, i Play artillery, i have to survive til the end of the battle otherwise its unfair... Daddy.... Daddy.... Wargaming Made vehicles with wheels who can spot me before the battle ends, i dont want to Play this Game anymore buy me a new Game Daddy" is it that what you think? :trollface:


Edited by ToXicReRoLL, 03 December 2019 - 12:45 AM.


Cerberus91 #202 Posted 04 December 2019 - 12:04 PM

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View PostToXicReRoLL, on 03 December 2019 - 12:44 AM, said:

Haha you want to hide at the Red Line playing a Tank which can make things which is called "Hacks" in other games and you complain about getting killed early in the game like all other tank classes can when they get spotted?  Like "but wargaming, i Play artillery, i have to survive til the end of the battle otherwise its unfair... Daddy.... Daddy.... Wargaming Made vehicles with wheels who can spot me before the battle ends, i dont want to Play this Game anymore buy me a new Game Daddy" is it that what you think? :trollface:

Do you seriously equate an exposed tank in the front getting blown up by several enemies to a redline-positioned arty that has little chance against a sneaking through wheeler? Exposure vs perfectly sound positioning. You, mate, need some basic common sense. 



ToXicReRoLL #203 Posted 04 December 2019 - 01:21 PM

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View PostCerberus91, on 04 December 2019 - 12:04 PM, said:

Do you seriously equate an exposed tank in the front getting blown up by several enemies to a redline-positioned arty that has little chance against a sneaking through wheeler? Exposure vs perfectly sound positioning. You, mate, need some basic common sense. 

95% who Playa Artillery is afraid to Play real Combat Tanks/ or These ppl know that they suck in the game but they are sucessfull Sitzung at the end of the map, Shooting 1-2 Times per Minute while they Play a mobile Game or watching porn or do what ever theY want and thats why in my eyes they deserve to get a counterpart like EBR. So EBR should be in every Battle and make this Players Not feel so safely. 

I also Like the Suggestion that SPG will be visible to r everyone after each Shot. And i dont Care what Arty Players say i give them pure hate and since there is XVM focus.... You dont believe? Play my Account for 1 day you will ragequit at the end. ...since that i so SPG Focus and deleted them from the game as soon as possible. And then they complain about that??? Come on, its disgusting.



Cheezix #204 Posted 04 December 2019 - 01:28 PM

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Arty getting visible as soon as they fire is a great solution in my opinion. I proposed it many times, because it instantly causes artillery to fight among each other. It was always bad to have one class that has a pure one sided fight all game long until the moment they have to fight and they drown themselves. It shows how cowardly they usually play! The moment I played arty in wot I always felt guilty and sad for the poor enemy I was clicking away without them being able to do anything about it but hide and be useless for their team.

 

#makeartyplayfair



Jumping_TurtIe #205 Posted 04 December 2019 - 01:34 PM

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View PostToXicReRoLL, on 04 December 2019 - 01:21 PM, said:

95% who Playa Artillery is afraid to Play real Combat Tanks/ or These ppl know that they suck in the game but they are sucessfull Sitzung at the end of the map, Shooting 1-2 Times per Minute while they Play a mobile Game or watching porn or do what ever theY want and thats why in my eyes they deserve to get a counterpart like EBR. So EBR should be in every Battle and make this Players Not feel so safely. 

I also Like the Suggestion that SPG will be visible to r everyone after each Shot. And i dont Care what Arty Players say i give them pure hate and since there is XVM focus.... You dont believe? Play my Account for 1 day you will ragequit at the end. ...since that i so SPG Focus and deleted them from the game as soon as possible. And then they complain about that??? Come on, its disgusting.

 

Come on. Soon you can anonimize yourself and all the focus will be gone.



iKnewIT #206 Posted 04 December 2019 - 03:24 PM

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View PostToXicReRoLL, on 04 December 2019 - 02:21 PM, said:

 

 

Somehow You do not see one single fact...

Bad players are bad with SPGs too.

Those who can play average/good/perfect with SPGs (I mean have "marked" SPGs and/or good WN8/other ratings meanings with SPGs) may play worse with other classes, but not as much worse as You say.

And the reasons that some players want (sometimes) to play with SPGs may be very different.

Let's say I play mostly with LTs nowadays, but when I turn on mine old laptop with 15,6" monitor, I prefer to go to battle with SPG, because it's difficult for me to play with LT on this little screen with bad fps and bigger ping.


Edited by iKnewIT, 04 December 2019 - 03:37 PM.


zuu_2016 #207 Posted 04 December 2019 - 05:19 PM

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And lets not forget handicaped players.

TargetX75 #208 Posted 04 December 2019 - 08:07 PM

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why not just make anyone visible on the map after they shoot? no more camping. arties don't have the loudest guns. think its stupid, sure increase the radius the vehicle gets detected based on its class and the turret calibre, which would make sense, then you could introduce diffusers or silencers as extra upgrades

KanonenVogel19 #209 Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:57 PM

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View PostToXicReRoLL, on 03 December 2019 - 12:44 AM, said:

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In case you didn't notice, this Sandbox is about testing SPGs. Getting killed early on makes it very difficult to test what is supposed to be tested. I understand that you don't like artillery but seriusly you can't be that dense to not understand the problem with the testing environment? Or has your artillery hate robbed you of all common sense?






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