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Poll: Should derp tanks be saved? (174 members have cast votes)

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Should HE shells continue to have penetration values?

  1. Yes (139 votes [79.89%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 79.89%

  2. No (35 votes [20.11%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.11%

Do HE penetration values need nerfing?

  1. Yes (48 votes [27.59%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.59%

  2. No (126 votes [72.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 72.41%

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Cobra6 #61 Posted 01 January 2020 - 12:29 PM

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Gold ammo spam (I will continue to call it gold spam as that is what it is, more expensive ammo you need premium accounts/tanks for to spam in the quantities needed in current WoT) is a much bigger issue in this game then HE ammo ever will be.

 

But addressing the gold spam means that WG will have to do actual work as they'd have to revert all the artificial over-armoring of everything they've been doing in recent years before they can remove gold-ammo entirely.

HE on the other hand is an easy fix: Make the cheapest ammo less viable so more credits will be spent shooting premium ammo against all the tanks that can't be viably penetrated by same tier standard ammo anymore.

 

They say they do it for the benefit of the game but the only benefit that WG is interested in, is their own financial benefit.

 

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Interdiction #62 Posted 01 January 2020 - 01:27 PM

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Some of my premium tanks i have rely on HE ...Looking forward to getting a full cash refund for them 

will0hlep #63 Posted 05 January 2020 - 05:53 PM

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View PostInterdiction, on 01 January 2020 - 01:27 PM, said:

Some of my premium tanks i have rely on HE ...Looking forward to getting a full cash refund for them 

 

Can't wait to see what happens to the KV-2 R


Edited by will0hlep, 05 January 2020 - 05:53 PM.


spuriousmonkey #64 Posted 05 January 2020 - 06:30 PM

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What about the T49?

 

I only play at the moment because the T49 exists.



apaleytos #65 Posted 06 January 2020 - 01:23 PM

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View Postspuriousmonkey, on 05 January 2020 - 05:30 PM, said:

What about the T49?

 

I only play at the moment because the T49 exists.

Dont have it but i think it has a normal competitive gun

 

Derp guns negate sidescraping thats a bad thing.Sure it is fun to drive a KV2,PZ4,M4,hetzer with derp gun and oneshot tanks but does it help the overall health of the game?.Imagine a new player driving his HT going to the city to brawl,peeks in corner and get oneshotted or tries to sidescrape and recieves a 400 splash to the side while getting tracked to death...Low tiers have other problems also,like T67s,unbalanced dpm issues like the SU85B,lefhs,M44 with 16 sec reload etc.

 

WG has overbuffed the armor without weakspots.People wanna sit on the hill with their 300-400+ turret armor,-10 depr,pixel weakspot and just farm.If you a high caliber HE you can definately hurt em.

HE spammers are a thing,definately annoying. HE100 :)

 

Borsig with the derp gun is my <3 the last days,i am a hypocrite like you guys:trollface:.



spuriousmonkey #66 Posted 06 January 2020 - 01:34 PM

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I wouldn't play it with the other gun.

will0hlep #67 Posted 06 January 2020 - 04:02 PM

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View Postapaleytos, on 06 January 2020 - 01:23 PM, said:

Dont have it but i think it has a normal competitive gun

 

Derp guns negate sidescraping thats a bad thing.Sure it is fun to drive a KV2,PZ4,M4,hetzer with derp gun and oneshot tanks but does it help the overall health of the game?.Imagine a new player driving his HT going to the city to brawl,peeks in corner and get oneshotted or tries to sidescrape and recieves a 400 splash to the side while getting tracked to death...Low tiers have other problems also,like T67s,unbalanced dpm issues like the SU85B,lefhs,M44 with 16 sec reload etc.

 

WG has overbuffed the armor without weakspots. People wanna sit on the hill with their 300-400+ turret armor,-10 depr,pixel weakspot and just farm.If you a high caliber HE you can definately hurt em.

HE spammers are a thing,definately annoying. HE100 :)

 

Borsig with the derp gun is my <3 the last days,i am a hypocrite like you guys:trollface:.

 

I would arguing that knowing what tanks you can and can't side scrape against is part of the skill of this game. I would also argue that the game requires mechanics that negate side scraping. On top of this (as you did say) HE is an important tool in balancing WG's over armoured premiums.

As for the new player experience, I really really really don't see being one shot by derps to be an issue. When I started 2 years ago (one of my friend who is a long term player got several of my friends playing around the same time), the most infuriating things were that the tutorial gave almost no correct information and the wikis and WG website is totally out of date. It fails to explain non premium consumables, view range, camo, gun depression and elevation, angling your tanks, positions to try on the maps, correct equipment, correct modules, advantages and disadvantages of different shells, advantage and disadvantages of different tech lines, crew skills, different play styles (ect. lights vs heavies) and the settings in the menus that give a clear advantage (16 and 25 zoom, minimap circles, pen indicator ect. many of which are turned off when you leave boot camp.).



strv_varjager #68 Posted 06 January 2020 - 06:33 PM

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I hate all form of cheese strat so remove them all, we already have the randomness of exploding modules thats enough, no need for cheese tanks that one shot other tanks totally ignoring armor.

killer999death #69 Posted 07 January 2020 - 01:52 PM

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Problem with tanks like KV-2 is the fact it can 1 shot tanks and ruin people's game that way in an instant even if the made no mistake. 



Another problem are situation like 1 KV-2 guarding a corridor (present on every damn map) or corner and 6 tanks don't want to advance because no one wants to take the hit and get killed for the team. Then you have 6 tanks waiting for many minutes before something happens. It ruins gameplay flow.

zuboun #70 Posted 10 February 2020 - 09:21 PM

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Saying that 183 need nerf while keeping tanks like 279, chieftan, 430u same is just [edited]if it was so op we would see them in CW... 

will0hlep #71 Posted 11 February 2020 - 11:15 AM

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WG, just cause you've saved KV-2, dosn't mean i won't continue to fight for the Hetzer...





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