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Microtanker_steel #1 Posted 27 November 2019 - 09:00 PM

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I play the third day on SU-5 with 152 mm Mortar NM.mod. 1931 and I didn't haven't single hit with stun effect.

Can someone explain how it works?

Or what mid tier SPG should I have, to complete STUG campaign (stun effect required).

 

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DuncaN_101 #2 Posted 27 November 2019 - 09:02 PM

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Artiest at tier 6 and upwards stun tanks. Below that they can't.

Sorry can't help it 

 

Edit... My bad its changed a bit since I last checked.  Nvm me


Edited by DuncaN_101, 27 November 2019 - 09:26 PM.


hasnainrakha57 #3 Posted 27 November 2019 - 09:04 PM

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Su 5 cannot stun. Lower tier arty can't stun because they don't have stun mechanics. For drug mission I would say go for m44,tier 5 Soviet arty,grille or  any tier 5 Arty EXCEPT FRENCH ARTY for other campaign ask a expert Arty player coz I am not Arty player.
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View PostDuncaN_101, on 27 November 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

Artiest at tier 6 and upwards stun tanks. Below that they can't.

Sorry can't help it

tier 5 can except french...any howitzers with 150mm+ caliber can stun


Edited by hasnainrakha57, 27 November 2019 - 09:13 PM.


peixe2 #4 Posted 27 November 2019 - 09:10 PM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 27 November 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

Artiest at tier 6 and upwards stun tanks. Below that they can't.

Sorry can't help it

M41 HMC (tier 5) can't stun? It says it can on the description.



Microtanker_steel #5 Posted 27 November 2019 - 09:11 PM

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Ok, but why Russian and German tier IV arty has stun effect in their specifications? (I marked it green on screenshot)

Is this a bug?


Edited by Microtanker_steel, 27 November 2019 - 09:12 PM.


divsmo #6 Posted 27 November 2019 - 09:14 PM

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View Postpeixe2, on 27 November 2019 - 08:10 PM, said:

M41 HMC (tier 5) can't stun? It says it can on the description.

I believe the grille and m41 can stun at tier 5 but other than that it's 6 and up but don't quote me on it as i'm not a massive arty player/fan.



PointZero #7 Posted 27 November 2019 - 09:15 PM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 27 November 2019 - 11:02 PM, said:

Artiest at tier 6 and upwards stun tanks. Below that they can't.
Sorry can't help it

 

9.18 Update Notes

  • Added the stunning effect to the SPGs that feature guns of calibers over 150 mm

So any SPG able to mount a 150+ mm caliber gun gets Stun regardless of the tier



hasnainrakha57 #8 Posted 27 November 2019 - 09:16 PM

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View PostMicrotanker_steel, on 27 November 2019 - 08:11 PM, said:

Ok, but why Russian and German tier IV arty has stun effect in their specifications? (I marked it green on screenshot)

Is this a bug?

It's a bug. every tier 5 Arty+ can stun EXCEPT FRENCH TIER 5 the reason lower tier can't because their caliber is less then 150mm its wot mechanics that artys with 150mm less caliber cannot stun now the reason why french tier 5 cannot stun whereas other tier 5 can is coz french got caliber less then 150mm.


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BlackBloodBandit #9 Posted 27 November 2019 - 09:52 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 27 November 2019 - 09:16 PM, said:

It's a bug. every tier 5 Arty+ can stun EXCEPT FRENCH TIER 5 the reason lower tier can't because their caliber is less then 150mm its wot mechanics that artys with 150mm less caliber cannot stun now the reason why french tier 5 cannot stun whereas other tier 5 can is coz french got caliber less then 150mm.

It's not a bug. The point is that only a minimum stun of 6 seconds is required to count as effective stun on the target. Below 6 seconds your target doesn't get stunned. This results in several guns almost never stunning their target.



Homer_J #10 Posted 27 November 2019 - 10:03 PM

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View PostBlackBloodBandit, on 27 November 2019 - 08:52 PM, said:

It's not a bug. The point is that only a minimum stun of 6 seconds is required to count as effective stun on the target. Below 6 seconds your target doesn't get stunned. This results in several guns almost never stunning their target.


^^This.  And it's really annoying.

 

There are guns which can stun but you need all the planets to align to actually see it happen.

 

To OP, you are gonna need a bigger boat arty.



Balc0ra #11 Posted 27 November 2019 - 10:15 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 27 November 2019 - 09:16 PM, said:

It's a bug. every tier 5 Arty+ can stun EXCEPT FRENCH TIER 5 the reason lower tier can't because their caliber is less then 150mm its wot mechanics that artys with 150mm less caliber cannot stun now the reason why french tier 5 cannot stun whereas other tier 5 can is coz french got caliber less then 150mm.

 

UK SPG's says hi. Don't get stuns until tier 7. As the Crusader is the only SPG with stun on a gun with less then 150mm, as it has a 139mm iirc. As it would seem a bit silly to wait for the tier 8 to get it I suspect.

 

But yeah, the Germans get it on the Bison based on caliber. But as mentioned above, on most low tiers it's to low to notice even for missions to count it. Something I did notice on my NA account when I did run up the Russian line.


Edited by Balc0ra, 27 November 2019 - 10:16 PM.


nc30_guy #12 Posted 27 November 2019 - 10:51 PM

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Stun requirement should be removed from all or a substitute version for the mission added as not everybody wants to play arty.

Orkbert #13 Posted 27 November 2019 - 11:10 PM

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View PostBlackBloodBandit, on 27 November 2019 - 09:52 PM, said:

It's not a bug. The point is that only a minimum stun of 6 seconds is required to count as effective stun on the target. Below 6 seconds your target doesn't get stunned. This results in several guns almost never stunning their target.

 

I thought that it was five seconds or did they change that? Wouldn't be too surprising. But since all tierIV arties with stun have a minimum stun duration of less than four seconds it doesn't quite matter if it's five or six seconds anyways.

 

As for the question of the OP, you gonna need a tier V or preferably a tier VI arty (with stun ofc) to do SPG-15 comfortably.

 

Also note that if you shoot at a target that's already stunned by another SPG then there is the chance that you might not cause additional stun and as such won't get stun assistance.



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View PostOrkbert, on 27 November 2019 - 10:10 PM, said:

 

I thought that it was five seconds or did they change that?

 

Could be five or below, which is anything less than 6 but it does make having the stun value on some arty pointless.  I think it was just something which was set early on in the testing and nobody thought to review it.



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It's not quite a bug. After three days of playing  I've got one stun hit lol.

Anyway it's impossible to finish whole STUG IV campaign at this tier.

This campaign shouldn't name "IV" and should be available for higher levels.

 

 


Edited by Microtanker_steel, 28 November 2019 - 11:48 AM.


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View PostMicrotanker_steel, on 28 November 2019 - 11:47 AM, said:

It's not quite a bug. After three days of playing  I've got one stun hit lol.

Anyway it's impossible to finish whole STUG IV campaign at this tier.

This campaign shouldn't name "IV" and should be available for higher levels.

 

 

 

Eh? If I'm reading that right, you think that all the missions need to be completed in tier IV tanks? 

That is not the case. All missions can be completed in tanks of tiers 4 and above

 

If I'm not reading it right just ignore me, I probably need more coffee.



CmdRatScabies #17 Posted 28 November 2019 - 12:51 PM

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View PostMicrotanker_steel, on 28 November 2019 - 11:47 AM, said:

It's not quite a bug. After three days of playing  I've got one stun hit lol.

Anyway it's impossible to finish whole STUG IV campaign at this tier.

This campaign shouldn't name "IV" and should be available for higher levels.

 

 

I didn't think there were any Tier 4 arty with stun.  You aren't restricted to Tier 4 - it's the minimum tier not the max.



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Does the LeFilth have stun?

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View PostMicrotanker_steel, on 27 November 2019 - 08:00 PM, said:

I play the third day on SU-5 with 152 mm Mortar NM.mod. 1931 and I didn't haven't single hit with stun effect.

Can someone explain how it works?

Or what mid tier SPG should I have, to complete STUG campaign (stun effect required).

 

 

Stun effect is not applied, if it would be less than 5 seconds. SU-5 has minimum 3,9, maximum 6,5 stun damage. To get closer to the maximum, you need high damage shots. So, pretty much you need penetrating shots, or direct hits on thin armor to get a stun effect with SU-5. I would recommend some higher tier arty for this mission.



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View PostCaptain_Kremen0, on 28 November 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

Does the LeFilth have stun?

Luckily, no it doesn't. It's already OP enough without stun.







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