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Kleist_, on 03 January 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

Just 'stolen' the stats from the TD9 from some post on the forum. Someone took the liberty to calculate them and I used them here Yes they are high, but compare with Object 704 (152mm) and T30 (155mm) and the stats are not that weird

forumpost Calculation 150mm 170mm

Hi all. I`m from ru-server, so I apologize for my english.

Guys, I want to tell, that 17 cm will be. Developers are thinking about it. It will be this gun - К 18 One of developers known as SerB told us about it.
Frontal armor will be 200 mm and 250 (like JagdTiger) for casemate. Side armor 80 mm but this opinion was taken for a long time ago so we all hope that developers changing their thought about it.
Players from ru-serv also waiting that monster

My own opinion that JagdE-100 will be first TD10, because at tier 9 it will be rubbish and non playable.

So good luck and patient it always rewarded.

Thanks for the info Bo_Yek. I'm really looking forward to it and hope it will become a tier 10 TD too (it seems much stronger than the Jagdtiger).

You have some more info about Jagdpanther II too per chance? Really looking forward to a much faster and more mobile Ferdinand (hopefully) while still having decent armor. Will it be based on the Panther II or E-50?

I found this in a french magazine about german TDs (Trucks &Tanks, Hors-Serie No2).
It says the following about the Sturer Emil: (Translation may be a bit off, I do speak French but not this fluently http://forum.worldof..._teethhappy.gif)


"It's Panzergranate 39 ammunition was capable of piercing 120mm of armor at 2000 metres at a 30 degree angle. The rate of fire was reduced since the 61 calible barrel had to be lowered (abaisse) after every shot. The placemet of of the projectiles also hindered a fast RoF.Also, the size of the engine and ammunition meant that not much of it could be stored in the ammorack, about 15-18 shells"

From the above we could probably figure that:
1) The Sturer Emil might have a slower rate of fire than the Jagdtiger, (also equipped with the 12,8 cm cannon)
2) It might have a slow aiming speed due to the need to lower the barrel after every shot.
3) It might have low ammunition storage capacity.


Of course, the Devs might choose to change all these figures for the sake of balance.

I hope this helped!

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Khosrau, on 03 January 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

The only thing I know about JagdP II that it will have based on Panther II chassis. So 100 mm frontal armor and (only my thought) 120 mm casemate at a good angle. I also read about normal camouflage abilities on that tank.
I think, speed must be 55 km and maybe top engine like at Panther II will be good. One of ours forum mates send letter to Krupp. The answer was


Also, take your time because that german TD line is not finished. Developers maybe remake it later.

Nice video



Now I remember, developers said that German TD line is very big. It includes 5 lines with own top in each line. Some of them is different «Waffentragers» and my favorite gloomy JagdMaus.

Thank you for taking the effort to answer here on EU-forums! That's good info.

I know it will still take a while, but in the meantime there are nice new French tanks coming and the US TD tree will be revamped in 7.2 so I'll be enjoying myself anyway.

Could not look you here suffers

Khosrau, on 03 January 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

I do not want to disappoint, but 0.7.2 does not come out in January

Khosrau, on 03 January 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

I'm not really sure that the new US TDs are coming in 7.2. ,from what I've read it would be a small patch and will add the IS-6 and JT with 88L/71 premiums and will finally make the M103 switch.The T30 becoming TD will probably be later .

Btw,can someone post a link to the RU forums where SerB confirms the 170 mm gun,I'd be very grateful   .

soramirez, on 02 January 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

no i'd say that the 105 on the Dickermax will have bad ROF to compensate for high pen and damage
but the 105mm on the Nashorn would be very  nice ... at tier 6

Bo_Yek, on 03 January 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

I already suspected as much, therefore I referred to French tanks first (still not out on EU-server). Beyond that, I still have US heavy, med and TD tree going right now. As well as other games and real life so I won't be bored.

_Grim_, on 03 January 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

Overlord stated this in his Q&A thread in the gameplay section. Of course this is still subject to change, I am aware of that (or we would have the M103 already now). However, the latest news is M103 and T110 will come together with the US TD tree revamp in 7.2. I thought I saw that those premium tanks would not make it for 7.2, but not sure.

Will try to find a link for you.

EDIT: here (post 1227, less than a week ago) and here (post 1203)

This is from Doyle book:

_Grim_, on 03 January 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

I found that message. SerB from ru-forum answering. Here it is. Post № 989.
Sorry, can give direct link because it was deleted

Bo_Yek, on 03 January 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

Tnx a lot    ,I did some more digging and found the original post in the Developers Answers Thread (post 1199)

Looks like it's really under consideration -I would love to see a ultra -alpha gun like the 170 mm(with very low RoF of course) in the game,it would add more variety.

Mirmydon, on 03 January 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

The 128mm gun on the JagdTiger and Sturer Emil are not the same guns, keep that in mind

Limbids, on 03 January 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

No? Oh, well... hehe http://forum.worldof.../Smile_harp.gif

its gonna be good
for snipers

Mirmydon, on 04 January 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

Historically speaking, I mean Don't know what WG will do.

Sturer Emil: 128mm PaK 40 L/61
Jagdtiger: 128mm PaK 44 L/55

if I remember correctly the Sturer Emil had its gun based on the anti air craft gun the 12,8-cm-Flak 40



It was actually more or less an oversized version of the 10,5-cm-Flak 38 but with the interesting addition of some kind of "magazine" which would assist in the reload of the weapon. How it worked in detail ? I have no clue. But for an anti air craft gun it was rather mediocre. It had better characteristics compared to the 88mm and the 105mm guns but considering the prize and caliber it did not offered that much more improvements. Hence the 88mm was still the standart weapon. Though I have read once about ideas for 150mm guns ! Might have been just a myth/propaganda though. The only information I could find was 15,0 cm Flak Geräte 50, 55, 60 und 65. But who knows.


Anyway. The 128 usually saw most of the time service on structures like the so called "Flaktuerme" (Anti air towers or something). Many of those have been used in large cities like Berlin or Hamburg.

The gun which the Jagdtiger used (the historical configuration) was a whole new development as anti tank gun. It was if I remember correctly started in competition with the Soviet 122mm which started to show up around 1943/44 as weapon against German tanks. The idea was to have a gun powerfull enough to penetrate any new tanks from a distance. The characteristics of the 128mm have been good enough that they saw no use for APCR shells not to mention they wanted to save the rare materials required for APCR shells.

the Stug E-100 is gonna beat everything.

piotrov1996, on 11 January 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

It's not russian, so it won't

P.S.: I'm looking forward to the jagdpantherII

crnivuk, on 06 January 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

it does 880m/s
compared to 820m/s for Flak 88
and 881m/s for the Flak 105