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hasnainrakha57 #1 Posted 30 November 2019 - 10:04 PM

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Just reached 50%off on the package but feels like I will not get a tank but a huge cupola seems like useless tank its like tank with a 2billon mm turret armor with 170mm cupola above so tank become a paper td:) what are your thoughts might stop grinding.

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GodTank2 #2 Posted 30 November 2019 - 10:40 PM

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Its not bad. Its has no armor but has a good gun. If you can play smart you can make it work

Wintermute_1 #3 Posted 30 November 2019 - 10:52 PM

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I'd don't think you're supposed to rely on the armour much, it's more of damage dealing heavium.

Poisoned_Dwarf #4 Posted 30 November 2019 - 10:56 PM

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Play it like a medium.

 

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shikaka9 #5 Posted 30 November 2019 - 11:03 PM

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it is bad, that thing on a turret is tragical weak spot ..  wont be sad if not gona make marathon

Stevies_Team #6 Posted 01 December 2019 - 03:46 AM

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I've been playing my M48 RPZ and it's pretty tragic with that tier 1 tank on its roof

 

Medium to long range only

 

When you get up close everyones gun is aiming up over your head, its a bit weird

 

If you can get it for almost nothing then why not...  but don't get too excited, tooma tanks are limited in what they can do

 

Both the M48 patton and the RPZ are hardly ever seen on the battlefield



mazinur76s #7 Posted 01 December 2019 - 04:10 AM

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Forum people say they wont grind for it. I trust forum people, and the big "head" of the tank. People know to shoot such things, and is not good.

 

Also, it is heavy tank. I think it was medium tank, and good. Who want heavy tank with such gun? Rather have Objekt 252. ))))



snowlywhite #8 Posted 01 December 2019 - 05:42 AM

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gun seems nice; but only if you get it for free..

 

I wouldn't pay even 5 eur(or whatever is 10% of the bundle) for that lighthouse on top. I'm all for weakspots on tanks. But that's definitely overdoing it.



TheJumpMaster #9 Posted 01 December 2019 - 07:46 AM

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Personally, I think that it is a good tank. It get penned rather easily for an American heavy. I try and play it like a heavy medium.

VarzA #10 Posted 01 December 2019 - 07:56 AM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 30 November 2019 - 11:04 PM, said:

Just reached 50%off on the package but feels like I will not get a tank but a huge cupola seems like useless tank its like tank with a 2billon mm turret armor with 170mm cupola above so tank become a paper td:) what are your thoughts might stop grinding.

 

This is for each man to decide. :)

 

But personally, i decided not to get it.

I have 15 t8 premiums, of which only 2-3 are bought, the rest are from marathons; by the end of the year i will get another t8 premium (t92 most likely).

This is the 1st marathon since the Dicker Max / T-44-100 i will not finish (not counting the T-34S ... t5 and all that), or buy towards the end ... i have too many and i have enough good credit makers to not need another.

 

If i need american heavy, i have T34 B (good credit maker with awesome pen) and AE Phase 1. Not to mention that i am also saving up bonds for T26E5 P.

On top, i don't think the tank is very good for FL .... it has good mobility as a heavyium and a good gun, but the armor simply does not exist when it comes to capping/decapping (defender and 112 are much better, even M4 49) which is what pushes the games early on.

It does not have the mobility to rush DEF before lights get there either.

It could brawl in city near objectives but when you get to that point you just want to spam tanks and those with 50+ kph are simply better.


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splash_time #11 Posted 01 December 2019 - 07:57 AM

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Nope, it doesn't worth. Mediocre speed and good gun, but only close city fights, because in open field maps? People will just aim at that house on top of the turret. 

 

Personally?  I'll rather play CAX on this one.

 



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View Postsplash_time, on 01 December 2019 - 08:57 AM, said:

Nope, it doesn't worth. Mediocre speed and good gun, but only close city fights, because in open field maps? People will just aim at that house on top of the turret. 

 

Personally?  I'll rather play CAX on this one.

 


Forgot about that one, the CAX mops the floor with this tank when it comes to options, especially in FL.



pihip #13 Posted 01 December 2019 - 08:55 AM

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Tank is not worth it because it has a weakspot? :teethhappy:

This thing is a downtiered T110E5, more of an armored slower medium than a true heavy, you're not supposed to facetank for the team as if you were in a Japanese heavy or a VK 100. Be the big guy with the meds instead, or the sneaky fire support with the actual heavies so they get shot while you shoot the red tanks.

It also has rather good gun handling for a HT so you can keep moving and wiggling while waiting for the next shot (reload is pretty quick). Also, the cupola is rather decently armored, front is 190mm thick which is not crap for a weakspot (compare to 40something mm on the M4 49's hatch).

 

Honestly, for 50% discount it does not seem like a bad deal, and it is the first actually good American premium heavy available (others have crippling weaknesses that let them down, like T34 has very poor gun handling).



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al ready seen full gold renegades .. .thats the biggest sign of very bad tank

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View Postpihip, on 01 December 2019 - 07:55 AM, said:

Honestly, for 50% discount it does not seem like a bad deal, and it is the first actually good American premium heavy available (others have crippling weaknesses that let them down, like T34 has very poor gun handling).

 

You forgot the t26e5, which is not that slow either. And I think I would prefer the t26e5 for CW over this one.



the_nebuchadnezzar #16 Posted 01 December 2019 - 09:51 AM

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I love it when people find a way to complain about a free tank. It's glorious. Hey, OP, no one is forcing you to get "a huge cupola"... 

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View Postshikaka9, on 01 December 2019 - 09:33 AM, said:

al ready seen full gold renegades .. .thats the biggest sign of very bad tank

 

If carrying full gold makes a tank bad, then T-54 with the DPM gun and T-55A, or even Object 279 (have yet to see one firing standard ammo) would be "very bad" too.

Joke on the M54 tryharders though, if they can't work with 226 pen in Tier 8 the tank is not the problem.

 

View Postkaneloon, on 01 December 2019 - 09:44 AM, said:

You forgot the t26e5, which is not that slow either. And I think I would prefer the t26e5 for CW over this one.


I did not, I just dislike the very low alpha on the gun (which works on CAX because of how fast that one shoots). Also, IIRC the T26E5 is rather sluggish - not superheavy sluggish, but not nimble either.


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shikaka9 #18 Posted 01 December 2019 - 10:32 AM

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View Postpihip, on 01 December 2019 - 09:27 AM, said:

 

If carrying full gold makes a tank bad, then T-54 with the DPM gun and T-55A, or even Object 279 (have yet to see one firing standard ammo) would be "very bad" too.

only t55a yes, other examples: obj430II, k91, BP, e100 etc...  these I see a lot, A LOT

 

 

 



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View Postshikaka9, on 01 December 2019 - 10:32 AM, said:

only t55a yes, other examples: obj430II, k91, BP, e100 etc...  these I see a lot, A LOT


I'm a bit confused as to why people would run full gold on Object 430-II and K-91 as those have very good penetration for medium tanks (and also have turrets, so they're not forced to do what the old SU-101 with the 100mm had to).

E 100 and BP though, you are correct, the former has been a HEAT spammer for years, the latter has a nerf gun and is too slow so it cannot really choose to disengage.



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View Postpihip, on 01 December 2019 - 09:46 AM, said:


I'm a bit confused as to why people would run full gold on Object 430-II and K-91 as those have very good penetration for medium tanks (and also have turrets, so they're not forced to do what the old SU-101 with the 100mm had to).

E 100 and BP though, you are correct, the former has been a HEAT spammer for years, the latter has a nerf gun and is too slow so it cannot really choose to disengage.

Object 430 -II is bad I agree 100%, played it, could be worst tank after Churchill GC in whole game (for me personally), but K-91 .. I dont know too :)


Edited by shikaka9, 01 December 2019 - 10:59 AM.





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