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lime_vortep #1 Posted 01 December 2019 - 03:33 PM

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Hi, and sorry that I post this here, but I can't write on the Asia Forums as...well the language. 

 

I really want to play that Waffenträger auf E 100 (P) and I knew it was available in the Asia server. Can someone confirm if the tank is still there and if it is for sale? 

 

If it is, I might download the Asia server and buy it. But I can't find out if it is still on sale there. 



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View Postlime_vortep, on 01 December 2019 - 03:33 PM, said:

Hi, and sorry that I post this here, but I can't write on the Asia Forums as...well the language. 

 

I really want to play that Waffenträger auf E 100 (P) and I knew it was available in the Asia server. Can someone confirm if the tank is still there and if it is for sale? 

 

If it is, I might download the Asia server and buy it. But I can't find out if it is still on sale there. 

Chinese server is different from Asia server...

and that Chinese server still stays at 9.22 version of WOT...(ye, just before 1.0 WOT)

 



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Any tank that has been removed from the game can be purchased for a ridiculous amount of cash from the CHINESE server shop. Not the asian server.

 

The chinese server is not owned or operated by Wargaming.


Edited by RamRaid90, 01 December 2019 - 03:41 PM.


lime_vortep #4 Posted 01 December 2019 - 03:45 PM

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Can someone give me link for the chinese server download and the WT E 100 in shop link? 

Balc0ra #5 Posted 01 December 2019 - 03:46 PM

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The cheapest way to get it atm... Is to play WOT console. As they still have it in the tech tree. Chinese server as pointed out above still have it for a price. As they are not run by WG as such, so they don't have to remove or balance anything the same way we do. Much like console.

 

View Postlime_vortep, on 01 December 2019 - 03:45 PM, said:

Can someone give me link for the chinese server download and the WT E 100 in shop link? 

 

It's not for sale atm, as they rotate it. But most tier X premiums go for 500 to 1256 Chinese Yuan. So about €70 to €130.

 

If you want to look, you can google for mall.kongzhong and look in their WOT store.


Edited by Balc0ra, 01 December 2019 - 03:51 PM.


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Thank you!

 

Best is to wait for WG to bring it back, as I believe they will at some point. 



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View Postlime_vortep, on 01 December 2019 - 03:55 PM, said:

Thank you!

 

Best is to wait for WG to bring it back, as I believe they will at some point. 

 

It was removed for a reason tbh. Be it in the first or 2nd state it was in. It could clip a Maus in 8 seconds.

 

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if you want to play the WTF100, you'll need to go either Kongzhong or Konsole.

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View Postlime_vortep, on 01 December 2019 - 03:55 PM, said:

Thank you!

 

Best is to wait for WG to bring it back, as I believe they will at some point. 

I hope for our sake and sanity that you will have to wait very long before that happens. 

 

Sorry but that thing was more than just broken. 



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View PostDuncaN_101, on 01 December 2019 - 06:15 PM, said:

I hope for our sake and sanity that you will have to wait very long before that happens. 

 

Sorry but that thing was more than just broken. 

 

Not more broken than todays 279(e) or what 268v4 used to be.



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Dunno I see enough of those 279e players fail in game.

Not always to fault of their own but still.
But both those objects are still not as bad as the waffle if you ask me. (mind you this is my opinion... Not fact)

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View PostSolstad1069, on 01 December 2019 - 06:23 PM, said:

 

Not more broken than todays 279(e) or what 268v4 used to be.

 

Oh they are not even close. Armor only makes a tank that much broken. As if the WT had a full gold clip. Both of those would be gone in seconds.



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View PostSolstad1069, on 01 December 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

 

Not more broken than todays 279(e) or what 268v4 used to be.

 

WT was far more broken.

V4 puts one shell into Waffentrager, Waffle just wipes him out with 2 shells to spare without bouncing once.


Edited by RamRaid90, 01 December 2019 - 06:39 PM.


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I believe that in todays WOT the WT auf E 100 will not be so overpowered. It will have those games that it full clip a tank, but mostly it will have those where EBR spot it in seconds and all of enemy team and artys make it disappear. 

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View PostBalc0ra, on 01 December 2019 - 06:29 PM, said:

 

Oh they are not even close. Armor only makes a tank that much broken. As if the WT had a full gold clip. Both of those would be gone in seconds.


Agree but still. The armor on the WT was still paper thin on some areas. So its more than killable. Id take the WT over 279e any day. 279e has everything going for it.
WT is: slow, shoddy armor, bad camo, still has to reload. Yes the gun was too powerful. Get it back with some rebalance. Still would be much more enjoyable to play vs it over 279e.

 

My team got ROFLSTOMPED by 279e (full HEAT ofc) and a Bobject. They killed 90% the team solo. (it was full Tier X match) Redshire. 

Hate or fear WT all you want. But you cant say that it has any chances when its facing 2 tank at the same time. 279e was laughing at us.


Edited by Venom7000, 01 December 2019 - 10:29 PM.


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View PostVenom7000, on 01 December 2019 - 10:29 PM, said:

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Agree but still. The armor on the WT was still paper thin on some areas. So its more than killable. Id take the WT over 279e any day. 279e has everything going for it.
WT is: slow, shoddy armor, bad camo, still has to reload. Yes the gun was too powerful. Get it back with some rebalance. Still would be much more enjoyable to play vs it over 279e.

 

279E can be countered if you close the distance in most tanks, as my BC just tracked bullied one down, before I sent the rest of the clip above the steel cable on the hull at the right angle, as I could not flank him due to his support fire.

 

At that distance, the WT would have killed me in 5 seconds before I got a chance to get 2 shots out. Again.. a fair bit of difference.


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The main problem with the WT E-100 was its clip potential and its unloading time. It wouldn't appear where you'd expect a paper TD to appear, it would appear where the heavies are, and then it can literally hold down aan entire firing lane solo. NOBODY, and I mean nobody, wanted to take that clip.


Anyone disagreeing that this tank was the most broken has obviously not looked it up. This thing would eat any 279e alive.


Edited by RamRaid90, 01 December 2019 - 11:31 PM.


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View PostBalc0ra, on 01 December 2019 - 10:38 PM, said:

 

279E can be countered if you close the distance in most tanks, as my BC just tracked bullied one down, before I sent the rest of the clip above the steel cable on the hull at the right angle, as I could not flank him due to his support fire.

 

At that distance, the WT would have killed me in 5 seconds before I got a chance to get 2 shots out. Again.. a fair bit of difference.


See the problem is as a HT player. I shot that thing with regular ammo. Despite most armor in the front being +254mm. I still bounced all of the shots. 
I'd rather take a tank like WT than something that can bully you and you have to shoot gold from most Russian heavies in order to pen it frontaly.

 

279e is fast (for a HT), good armor (if you dont use gold), reliable gun (0.35 on a russian gun is usually reserved for Mediums and TDs at best. And that is without skill or equipment). Add rammer, vents & B&A you get: 8.67 reload time, 6.92 rate of fire, 2.11 sec aim time and 0.33 dispersion. Do you need to list stats with food (because most use food) and the fact that 99% of the players with 279e vs me used HEAT (340mm) (regardless of the tank I had)

WT can be brought back with: 

  1. Smaller clip size
  2. Worse accuracy
  3. Slow turret turn

And many more. You can return the tank and re-balance it. Its not an issue. :)

 

Not arguing if WT is more op than 279e (or vice versa). But simply making a point that we already have something that is broken in the game. Returning WT with some rebalancing is still a valid option. 


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View PostVenom7000, on 01 December 2019 - 11:32 PM, said:


See the problem is as a HT player. I shot that thing with regular ammo. Despite most armor in the front being +254mm. I still bounced all of the shots. 
I'd rather take a tank like WT than something that can bully you and you have to shoot gold from most Russian heavies in order to pen it frontaly.

 

279e is fast (for a HT), good armor (if you dont use gold), reliable gun (0.35 on a russian gun is usually reserved for Mediums and TDs at best. And that is without skill or equipment). Add rammer, vents & B&A you get: 8.67 reload time, 6.92 rate of fire, 2.11 sec aim time and 0.33 dispersion. Do you need to list stats with food (because most use food) and the fact that 99% of the players with 279e vs me used HEAT (340mm) (regardless of the tank I had)

WT can be brought back with: 

  1. Smaller clip size
  2. Worse accuracy
  3. Slow turret turn

And many more. You can return the tank and re-balance it. Its not an issue. :)

 

Not arguing if WT is more op than 279e (or vice versa). But simply making a point that we already have something that is broken in the game. Returning WT with some rebalancing is still a valid option. 

 

This! 

Balancing the WT:

- 5 shell magazine but with 490 alpha and 55sec reload. 

- worst turret traverse. 

- Top speed 35kmph. 

 

 



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View Postlime_vortep, on 01 December 2019 - 06:09 PM, said:

I believe that in todays WOT the WT auf E 100 will not be so overpowered. It will have those games that it full clip a tank, but mostly it will have those where EBR spot it in seconds and all of enemy team and artys make it disappear. 

 

I keep seeing that over and over, and that was never the issue. It was never OP, but it was always broken.

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View PostVenom7000, on 01 December 2019 - 09:29 PM, said:

WT is: slow

 

For its size and weight, it really wasn't slow at all.

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View Postlime_vortep, on 02 December 2019 - 12:01 AM, said:

Balancing the WT:

- 5 shell magazine but with 490 alpha and 55sec reload. 

- worst turret traverse. 

- Top speed 35kmph. 

 

Wouldn't matter, at all.

It had its clip reduced, and still that wasn't enough.

 

For example, aim circle would close BEFORE it loaded the rounds, and it did that with 2s intervals. If you've never had a WT looking at you with a full clip, believe me when I say you really don't want to be there.






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