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IchWill32 #1 Posted 01 December 2019 - 10:58 PM

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Wtf is going on with this tank, how many weak points it have at front? 5? 6? all tanks pens the mantlet? wtf?? is a heavy scout or what? Change its name to PzVII goldsponge or PzVII freecreditsforyou or PZVII ishouldusegoldorimworsethansuperhellcat

 



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It's bad, that's all.

TsundereWaffle #3 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:14 PM

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The Pz. VII is not the best tank out there when it comes to armor no. It has two major weakspots, those being the gun mantlet and the turret ring that extends into the hull. Unfortunately these are practically impossible to hide and kind of support engaging from a longer range, which is not suited for the tank. So yeah, I'd say that in it's current state it's not really the best heavy tank but it should still be playable, as long as you don't rely on your armor too much.

IchWill32 #4 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:25 PM

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Ok i put binos on it and use it as scout... 

Balc0ra #5 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:28 PM

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Well, that explains your first topic today.

IchWill32 #6 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:46 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 01 December 2019 - 10:28 PM, said:

Well, that explains your first topic today.

 My first topic today is about from 10 games 6 are boring and unfunny (15-5 or so, even if you win), 3 are blah... and if u have luck, 1 is good and funny (even if u lose). And then those unbalanced tanks, but thats is impossible to repair... 

and ranked battles is the same but x2 worse. Is all about ptw, waste hour in this game like slaves (like the new t54 missions), join a clan and be slave x2, and then get rewards after 7 years of playing like a progeto that last 30 days or a super hellcat :) and bum bum all the time buy this premium, waste more money using this discount, etc...  they are perfect by making us waste money, but still balancing defender with tiger 1 or kingcrap.



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View PostIchWill32, on 01 December 2019 - 11:25 PM, said:

Ok i put binos on it and use it as scout... 

 

Why would you do that?



IchWill32 #8 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:53 PM

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View PostTsundereWaffle, on 01 December 2019 - 10:49 PM, said:

 

Why would you do that?

Becouse if is useless as a heavy why not.... just played 1 game now, all hull hidden, showed turret and deleted, all shots on mantlet... so i will hide in a bush with binos :)



Dava_117 #9 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:34 AM

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We had a topic, few days ago, about Pz7. Some good armour usage suggestion came out from a very good player. I would suggest you to use the search function and read it. May help to get a better experience with your tank. :)

IchWill32 #10 Posted 02 December 2019 - 02:13 AM

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View PostDava_117, on 02 December 2019 - 12:34 AM, said:

We had a topic, few days ago, about Pz7. Some good armour usage suggestion came out from a very good player. I would suggest you to use the search function and read it. May help to get a better experience with your tank. :)

Ok , and found this

View PostAlukat123, on 25 November 2019 - 12:16 AM, said:

the gun mantlet isn't the only problem...

 

VII.jpg

 

It's a tier 8 tank disguised as Tier 10...

 

This tank need the manlet to be fixed. And sidescraping like superplayers (gold spammers) suggest, no way with that fat turret bottom (unless you fight newbies who doesnt know where to shot).

 

 


Edited by IchWill32, 02 December 2019 - 02:18 AM.


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View PostIchWill32, on 02 December 2019 - 02:13 AM, said:

Ok , and found this

 

This tank need the manlet to be fixed. And sidescraping like superplayers (gold spammers) suggest, no way with that fat turret bottom (unless you fight newbies who doesnt know where to shot).

 

 

 

So what part do you want to be the weak spot? 



DuncaN_101 #12 Posted 02 December 2019 - 09:28 AM

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None?

But only on his tank ofcourse.... All enemies need 3 weak spots minimum

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View PostIchWill32, on 02 December 2019 - 12:58 AM, said:

Wtf is going on with this tank, how many weak points it have at front? 5? 6? all tanks pens the mantlet? wtf?? is a heavy scout or what? Change its name to PzVII goldsponge or PzVII freecreditsforyou or PZVII ishouldusegoldorimworsethansuperhellcat

 

 

I've never played this game, but as far as I know, it's good against T8-9s, in full T10 battles? It's a movable HP box. :popcorn:

But in the right hands? It's a true beast.



IchWill32 #14 Posted 02 December 2019 - 10:26 AM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 02 December 2019 - 08:28 AM, said:

None?

But only on his tank ofcourse.... All enemies need 3 weak spots minimum

 

But the manlet is insane, at least reduce it, the sides eats all with sidescraping, penned in manlet easy but tiers 9 even tier 7 is a joke for that tank... and dont come with the pro players play it good, they put invisible wall in manlet with theirs mind? Or they just fight reds in randoms which dont know where to shot?


Edited by IchWill32, 02 December 2019 - 10:27 AM.


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It's not the best or worst t10 heavy, personally I think its better than the e100. All the german heavies have the weird don't look at enemy issue as the front of turrets are easy to pen. I'm not sure they were designed to be like this in real life, but they are rather tricky to play especially if you have just been playing RU tanks which all have super tough turrets. The pz7 can be useful but you need to work out how to use it best.

 

Sitting in a bush with binos is not one of the better options :)



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Has many small weakspot from any angle so it gets penned almost everytime with aimbot. Unlike soviet heavies for example who have few weaspots that can be hidden. It also has huge gold-weakspots, unlike soviet heavies for ex.

Experts here agree you have to do that forward and back movement to avoid the RGN but all is justified for it has the best gun on paper.

 



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View PostIchWill32, on 01 December 2019 - 10:58 PM, said:

Wtf is going on with this tank, how many weak points it have at front? 5? 6? all tanks pens the mantlet? wtf?? is a heavy scout or what? Change its name to PzVII goldsponge or PzVII freecreditsforyou or PZVII ishouldusegoldorimworsethansuperhellcat

 

it's the best tier 10 heavy in the German tree.

but you have to know it's not a brawler. use it at medium range at a distance where the Obj140 and K-91 and other little HEAT-spamming [edited]can't reliably hit the weakspots.

at short range, every competent player just executes the Pz VII.

the only way to make its armor work somewhat is a wall corner, exposing the angled front armor and hiding the side, ideally the cannon should point above the middle of the track.

but don't do this at close range, allow for 100m minimum, and even then you will get shot in the mantelet.


Edited by HassenderZerhacker, 02 December 2019 - 12:43 PM.


IchWill32 #18 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:14 PM

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So a heavy tank that cant be used to fight at closed ranges? ??? As i said, best option spoter with binos, camou and a pizza. And i got destroyed by a 705 tier 9 and a 284, and distance was high, perfect pens in mantlet. 100% accuracy almost both of them. Also i remember to get destroyed easy by a t50/51 at front easy as hell. Everybody is using gold in this ptw depressing game.

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View PostIchWill32, on 02 December 2019 - 01:14 PM, said:

So a heavy tank that cant be used to fight at closed ranges? ??? As i said, best option spoter with binos, camou and a pizza. And i got destroyed by a 705 tier 9 and a 284, and distance was high, perfect pens in mantlet. 100% accuracy almost both of them. Also i remember to get destroyed easy by a t50/51 at front easy as hell. Everybody is using gold in this ptw depressing game.

 

there are many "heavy" tanks that aren't brawlers.

 

take the french AMX for example, they have no armor.

take the Tiger I, it's a sniper. Tiger II, same, although its armor can work vs. Tier 7.

 

and regarding your pens in the mantelet from high distance... of course you have to move the tank a bit when exposed.

but then there is always the odd game where one gets fucked over by RNG, for some reason the WG balancing system ™ decided that the other tank should hit and pen your cupola five times in a row from 150m away.

 

I don't even know how they do it. when I aim at a stationary target, I almost never hit it.

 


Edited by HassenderZerhacker, 02 December 2019 - 02:08 PM.


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View PostIchWill32, on 02 December 2019 - 01:14 PM, said:

So a heavy tank that cant be used to fight at closed ranges? ??? As i said, best option spoter with binos, camou and a pizza. And i got destroyed by a 705 tier 9 and a 284, and distance was high, perfect pens in mantlet. 100% accuracy almost both of them. Also i remember to get destroyed easy by a t50/51 at front easy as hell. Everybody is using gold in this ptw depressing game.


There are way better options for binos and cammo. P7 will still suck.

I had best bino//cammo results with obj 430U - the best sniper. Best in the actual gameplay. I`m at 49% overall wr. With that setup 60% wr.

Is no sarcasm, i`m serious. It`s just what the actual gameplay is and how you can s...t on the "game".

 


Edited by Argedeava, 02 December 2019 - 02:11 PM.





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