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Bulldog_Drummond #1 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:03 PM

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Just played a game in which someone on my team had 1500 games and a WN8 of 7

He (or it) was in a KV220

It seems almost inconceivable that any living person could be so useless

Could the bot detection program not be improved to weed out this stuff?



Venom7000 #2 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:14 PM

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I had a couple of lobotomites these days too. 40k games (34% win rate) avg dmg 210.

Problem is how does any company detect cheat software such as bot in this case? Does the game check what are you also running in the background during your game. I doubt because that would be a breach of privacy. 

PeaceWalker1 #3 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:14 PM

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Edited by ValkyrionX, 02 December 2019 - 12:23 AM.
Non-constructive comment, just a mix of insults. Avoid expressing yourself this way, thanks.


Bulldog_Drummond #4 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:22 PM

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View PostPeaceWalker1, on 01 December 2019 - 10:14 PM, said:

Edited

 

To err is human, to forgive divine


Edited by ValkyrionX, 02 December 2019 - 12:24 AM.


Karasu_Hidesuke #5 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:29 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 01 December 2019 - 10:22 PM, said:

 

To err is human, to forgive divine

 

You humans are a funny lot. :trollface:



PeaceWalker1 #6 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:34 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 01 December 2019 - 11:22 PM, said:

 

To err is human, to forgive divine

I take that as a compliment.

There is at least one guy with Parkinson playing this game and at least one old man, who just likes to watch the scenery, both had very bad stats, but they also had fun, which is kind of the purpose of this game. 



Venom7000 #7 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:37 PM

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View PostPeaceWalker1, on 01 December 2019 - 11:34 PM, said:

I take that as a compliment.

There is at least one guy with Parkinson playing this game and at least one old man, who just likes to watch the scenery, both had very bad stats, but they also had fun, which is kind of the purpose of this game. 

Both are prime candidates for arty play.
Seriously no joke. Arty is one of the easies role to play and despite many disabilities you have can still give contribution to your team.



RetroCh1cken #8 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:39 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 01 December 2019 - 10:03 PM, said:

Just played a game in which someone on my team had 1500 games and a WN8 of 7

He (or it) was in a KV220

It seems almost inconceivable that any living person could be so useless

Could the bot detection program not be improved to weed out this stuff?

I hate to admit it but when I first started wot I was around 9 years old playing on a laptop unable to zoom or go into snipe mode with an amazing winrate of 40%, hence why I've been rapidly improving my stats now when I'm able to play more serious.
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So it's 100% possible for people to have a 40-ish% winrate, I've somehow been there.
I've even checked on some of my oldest replays, trust me, if I didn't already know that was me, I'd think it was a bot.



Homer_J #9 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:41 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 01 December 2019 - 10:03 PM, said:

Just played a game in which someone on my team had 1500 games and a WN8 of 7

He (or it) was in a KV220

It seems almost inconceivable that any living person could be so useless

Could the bot detection program not be improved to weed out this stuff?

 

What makes you think a bot would be that bad?

 

Think about it, a bot would never get red mist, would never be distracted by it's bot wife, would have virtually instant reactions, would never have beef with it's team mates, wouldn't give up because XVM told them they only had a 49% chance to win.

 

I would think of a bot as more like the terminator than metal mickey,



Karasu_Hidesuke #10 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:50 PM

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View PostVenom7000, on 01 December 2019 - 10:37 PM, said:

Both are prime candidates for arty play.
Seriously no joke. Arty is one of the easies role to play and despite many disabilities you have can still give contribution to your team.

 

Yes, I actually remember someone saying this exact thing on the forums, that it was the only class they could play which made me rethink the issue of having arty in the game despite it being a nuisance to most.



Bulldog_Drummond #11 Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:54 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 01 December 2019 - 10:41 PM, said:

 

What makes you think a bot would be that bad?

 

Think about it, a bot would never get red mist, would never be distracted by it's bot wife, would have virtually instant reactions, would never have beef with it's team mates, wouldn't give up because XVM told them they only had a 49% chance to win.

 

I would think of a bot as more like the terminator than metal mickey,

 

Maybe.  But in my line of business at least they haven't yet made a bot that can keep up with us humans.

I'm willing to bet that the WoT bots aren't very good and probably never will be because there is little money or prestige in developing them (unlike say Chess or Go bots).  And the WoT bots aren't about getting good scores but simply grinding out credits on autoplay.



Venom7000 #12 Posted 02 December 2019 - 12:05 AM

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View PostKarasu_Hidesuke, on 01 December 2019 - 11:50 PM, said:

 

Yes, I actually remember someone saying this exact thing on the forums, that it was the only class they could play which made me rethink the issue of having arty in the game despite it being a nuisance to most.

Me too.
But I wouldn't mind capping them to 1 per team each game (and we dont get no arty games to ease up the que times for them at least)



Danger__UXB #13 Posted 02 December 2019 - 12:06 AM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 01 December 2019 - 10:03 PM, said:

Just played a game in which someone on my team had 1500 games and a WN8 of 7

He (or it) was in a KV220

It seems almost inconceivable that any living person could be so useless

Could the bot detection program not be improved to weed out this stuff?

 

You know sometimes the 'Old school' tankers will have to appreciate that with the so called 'Dumbing down' of this game also came a new breed of player...there are alot of children play this game now and as such

they are not too aware of anything beyond the 'W' key and spinning on the spot shooing in a Marder shouting WEEEEEE!!!...(Yes!! Ive witnessed the latter..and even died to it as it happened next to me)

 

 

Ill quote this from the announcements section on this forum..Post No 250http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/727555-enjoy-your-well-deserved-reward/page__st__240#topmost

 

 

''Here is a little story that no doubt will warm WG hearts!-)

When my son was born 6 years ago I created a second account :child:

Over the years I added some vehicles and free stuff and finally this year he qualified Basic Training.
So today I showed him his own account - MightyMouse13.

He was ecstatic and when we loaded up we got 20 crates of stuff and a Super Hellcat :medal:

For now he will only play Tiers 1-3 under parental guidance, but beware the new recruit is a fast learner :deer:''

 

So yes!! many children play this game..

 

...so just when you think this game all about what you think it should be....there will be others in the game that have other motives and that have different goals.

 

...Times move on..

 

 


Edited by Danger__UXB, 02 December 2019 - 12:11 AM.


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I think that this thread could be classified as non constructive, so it will be closed.

 

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