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PayToWinDude #1 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:11 PM

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People spam gold ammo on my Grille, Scorpion G, Progetto,so much unnecessary gold spam ...just duble the price ...problem sloved.

TankkiPoju #2 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:16 PM

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I only shoot premium rounds, because I value my opponents. They only deserve the best.

Ceeb #3 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:17 PM

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 its not GOLD ammo since 2012.

 

And with excess of 30+mill credits, do you think making it expensive will deter me from firing it?  

 

Nope, it wont.

 

my 13 57 is full premium ammo, its flithy as feck. Haters gonna hate.

 

 


Edited by Ceeb, 02 December 2019 - 01:18 PM.


unhappy_bunny #4 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:19 PM

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View PostPayToWinDude, on 02 December 2019 - 12:11 PM, said:

People spam gold ammo on my Grille, Scorpion G, Progetto,so much unnecessary gold spam ...just duble the price ...problem sloved.


Well it might deter a player with say 8 million or less credits, but would it deter a player with 30 or 40 million credits? 

All you would achieve is players who find it hard to earn enough credits would ration their use of Premium Ammo, which helps a little, but the players that find it easy to earn credits would be rubbing their hands with glee. 

Well, that is just my initial thoughts.



Frostilicus #5 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:20 PM

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If it's unnecessary you should simply smile at the fact that the shooter has just wasted a lot of credits on a premium round instead of sending you to heaven with a cheap HE shell :)

 

Love how people get offended by what someone else fires at them :)


Edited by Frostilicus, 02 December 2019 - 01:21 PM.


Gixxer66 #6 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:24 PM

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View PostPayToWinDude, on 02 December 2019 - 12:11 PM, said:

People spam gold ammo on my Grille, Scorpion G, Progetto,so much unnecessary gold spam ...just duble the price ...problem sloved.

 

If normal ammo would have penned anyway then what difference does it make? The result is the same - less HP

 

 



Ceeb #7 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:27 PM

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 02 December 2019 - 12:19 PM, said:


Well it might deter a player with say 8 million or less credits, but would it deter a player with 30 or 40 million credits? 

All you would achieve is players who find it hard to earn enough credits would ration their use of Premium Ammo, which helps a little, but the players that find it easy to earn credits would be rubbing their hands with glee. 

Well, that is just my initial thoughts.

 

The easist way yo fix it is to keep the current costs but limit the number of premium shells per tank..



duijm #8 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:28 PM

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View PostPayToWinDude, on 02 December 2019 - 12:11 PM, said:

People spam gold ammo on my Grille, Scorpion G, Progetto,so much unnecessary gold spam ...just duble the price ...problem sloved.


so even more pay to win?:playing:



TungstenHitman #9 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:39 PM

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View PostPayToWinDude, on 02 December 2019 - 12:11 PM, said:

People spam gold ammo on my Grille, Scorpion G, Progetto,so much unnecessary gold spam

 

Well since it doesn't change your outcome of your paper tanks being penned then why care? If anything, they stand less chance of penning your paper tanks since APCR will bounce a lot more of things it shouldn't have a problem penning including some laughable non pens on paper tanks and HEAT can be caught by your tracks for zero dmg, all situations that regular AP will most likely not bounce and do damage, if not AP then HE would have so again why do you care? Are you bothered that these players are not doing as much damage as they could be doing or bothered that your are not getting killed fast enough?

 

View PostPayToWinDude, on 02 December 2019 - 12:11 PM, said:

just duble the price ...problem sloved.

 

Problem solved he says... and what is the problem exactly, you never actually bothered to mention that part?

 



Jethro_Grey #10 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:41 PM

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View PostPayToWinDude, on 02 December 2019 - 01:11 PM, said:

People spam gold ammo on my Grille, Scorpion G, Progetto,so much unnecessary gold spam ...just duble the price ...problem sloved.

 

Yep. I had a TX TD spam my Progetto with premium rounds the other day.  

Of Course it is annoying, but then, he probably lost more credits then i made Profit in this game. ^^

 

View PostTankkiPoju, on 02 December 2019 - 01:16 PM, said:

I only shoot premium rounds, because I value my opponents. They only deserve the best.

 

Exactly! I only shoot premium rounds at higher tiered opponents, mostly RU balans tenks and super heavies, because i value them so much, they indeed deserve the best. 

 

View PostCeeb, on 02 December 2019 - 01:17 PM, said:

 its not GOLD ammo since 2012.

 

And with excess of 30+mill credits, do you think making it expensive will deter me from firing it?  

 

Nope, it wont.

 

my 13 57 is full premium ammo, its flithy as feck. Haters gonna hate.

 

 

 

Ever since i stopped firing premium rounds at everyone, i started making profits and am sitting at ~4million credits (spend 2 Million on Crew book). 

And even tho my Goal is to improve without firing too much premium rounds, all my tanks have a healthy amount of them, and one or two are full premium loadout, and always were. Even back in the day when i struggled to break even in my premium tanks. 

 

 



I_Gutmensch_Deluxe_I #11 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:41 PM

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I lose Money with my T8 Premiums + Premium Time... at the Moment i cant play WoT anymore because i dont have Credits left... it is expensive, way too expensiv.

 



Ceeb #12 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:46 PM

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View PostJethro_Grey, on 02 December 2019 - 12:41 PM, said:

 

Ever since i stopped firing premium rounds at everyone, i started making profits and am sitting at ~4million credits (spend 2 Million on Crew book). 

And even tho my Goal is to improve without firing too much premium rounds, all my tanks have a healthy amount of them, and one or two are full premium loadout, and always were. Even back in the day when i struggled to break even in my premium tanks. 

 

 

I dont fire premium as I'm a cheap bashtard.  I only hit my 2 key when I'm up against some OP heavy or when I've already bounced a few shots.

 

The exceptions are EVEN 90 and the 13 57....

 

Even 90 to make sure I do pen, and the 13 57 for its phsycological effect of being penned every second or so.

 

And I made 3 mil this weekend even after spending 5 mill on consumables, making credits in this game has never been an issue.


Edited by Ceeb, 02 December 2019 - 01:47 PM.


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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 02 December 2019 - 12:19 PM, said:


Well it might deter a player with say 8 million or less credits, but would it deter a player with 30 or 40 million credits? 

All you would achieve is players who find it hard to earn enough credits would ration their use of Premium Ammo, which helps a little, but the players that find it easy to earn credits would be rubbing their hands with glee. 

Well, that is just my initial thoughts.

 

I don't think the problem is wealthy laziness and this is a point I don't think WG understand. If we didn't have RNG effective penetration values which basically takes your 200 pen that should have penned 180mm of armor and instead gives us the middle finger at times, then player would be a lot more confident of using that standard ammo with that valued penetration against armor they also learned to be X amount of thickness. 

 

You see the problem with this game is it's far too convenient to blame shooting premium ammo as being a lazy auto-aim noob which does happen at times of course but in reality you also might be the most knowledgeable player, learned your tanks pen values, learned all the other tanks weak spot values but have all that knowledge and proper weak spot aiming reduced to worthless by RNG... and thus a player just presses to 2 key, not to be lazy and not to be immune from RNG, but just to reduce the chances of shooting a weak spot of being a pointless exercise by a randomly generated decision.

 

Shooting premium ammo at paper tanks? Sure, its needless but only serves to hurt that players credits, not the guy with the paper tank who was going to get penned anyway and more reliably with standard ammo. Thing is though, perhaps that shell was not meant to be for the paper tank. Very often a player load a premium shell in anticipation of encountering the broken armored tank he last spotted in that position of the map but some yoloing bob with his light tank hops over the hill or a papery TD gets spotted on a hill, so the guy who had his gun pre-loaded with a premium shell is not going to waste the chance reloading again.



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View PostCeeb, on 02 December 2019 - 12:46 PM, said:

 

I dont fire premium as I'm a cheap bashtard.  I only hit my 2 key when I'm up against some OP heavy or when I've already bounced a few shots.

 

The exceptions are EVEN 90 and the 13 57....

 

Even 90 to make sure I do pen, and the 13 57 for its phsycological effect of being penned every second or so.

 

And I made 3 mil this weekend even after spending 5 mill on consumables, making credits in this game has never been an issue.

 

I with you on that - I dab the 2 key when I need to pen or when I need extra shell velocity, or if 2 is selected for an armored target and a soft target shows up begging "shoot me shoot me"



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Gold ammo must be taken out thats it

Gixxer66 #16 Posted 02 December 2019 - 01:57 PM

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View Postmmm_lawara, on 02 December 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:

Gold ammo must be taken out thats it

 

And replaced with ?

 

Give us some depth to your arguement.



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View PostGixxer66, on 02 December 2019 - 01:57 PM, said:

 

And replaced with ?

 

Give us some depth to your arguement.

Why even to replace? Gold ammo is not neccecery



Jethro_Grey #18 Posted 02 December 2019 - 02:06 PM

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View Postmmm_lawara, on 02 December 2019 - 01:54 PM, said:

Gold ammo must be taken out thats it

 

Agreed, and then replaced with...

 

View PostGixxer66, on 02 December 2019 - 01:57 PM, said:

 

And replaced with ?

 

Give us some depth to your arguement.

 

...Platinum and Diamond ammo! 

Gold is so yesteryear anyway.


Edited by Jethro_Grey, 02 December 2019 - 02:06 PM.


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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 02 December 2019 - 01:19 PM, said:


Well it might deter a player with say 8 million or less credits, but would it deter a player with 30 or 40 million credits? 

All you would achieve is players who find it hard to earn enough credits would ration their use of Premium Ammo, which helps a little, but the players that find it easy to earn credits would be rubbing their hands with glee. 

Well, that is just my initial thoughts.

 

I think they should penalize people who make negative credits results when they win battles. maybe -50% XP would work.



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View PostJethro_Grey, on 02 December 2019 - 02:06 PM, said:

 

Agreed, and then replaced with...

 

 

...Platinum and Diamond ammo! 

Gold is so yesteryear anyway.

Lets make it easier - Nucler bomb 1 shot all map dead and all is good






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